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QuantumScript 05/23/17 12:39:21 PM #1:	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. <cite>QuantumScript posted [p:879655570] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QuantumScript 05/23/17 12:43:34 PM #2:	bump <cite>QuantumScript posted [p:879655804] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 05/23/17 12:44:05 PM #3:	Now stop everyone, we still don't know the motive --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:879655827] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>Now stop everyone, we still don't know the motive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FifthBeethoven 05/23/17 12:45:01 PM #4:	please don't be Muslim. --- http://i.imgur.com/1SNXSfD.png <cite>FifthBeethoven posted [p:879655881] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>please don't be Muslim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 05/23/17 12:46:37 PM #7:	GOATTHlEF posted... Bloodychess posted... Now stop everyone, we still don't know the motive FifthBeethoven posted... please don't be Muslim. steals your goats You literally stole them last night, take a break --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:879655969] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote>Now stop everyone, we still don't know the motive</quote> <cite>FifthBeethoven posted...</cite> <quote>please don't be Muslim.</quote> steals your goats</quote> You literally stole them last night, take a break</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 05/23/17 12:47:44 PM #8:	so they go to syria and then let them right back in? --- http://i.imgur.com/gWCYPlD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Ls3OgWR.jpg <cite>Awesome posted [p:879656038] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>so they go to syria and then let them right back in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KlRBEH 05/23/17 12:47:57 PM #9:	That shit is crazy --- http://i.imgur.com/fUaBI.jpg I NEEDUH MONSTA TA CLOBBA DAT DERE KIRBEH <cite>KlRBEH posted [p:879656050] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>That shit is crazy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 05/23/17 12:49:00 PM #10:	QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:879656108] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 05/23/17 12:49:08 PM #11:	Awesome posted... so they go to syria and then let them right back in? Not like there are any legitimate reasons to do something like that, clearly. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:879656115] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>so they go to syria and then let them right back in?</quote> Not like there are any legitimate reasons to do something like that, clearly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 05/23/17 12:50:17 PM #12:	Capn Circus posted... QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:879656189] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 05/23/17 12:51:43 PM #13:	Islamic State have already claimed responsibility. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:879656267] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>Islamic State have already claimed responsibility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 05/23/17 12:52:38 PM #14:	OctilIery posted... Capn Circus posted... QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good. If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:879656317] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good.</quote> If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 05/23/17 12:53:31 PM #15:	OctilIery posted... Awesome posted... so they go to syria and then let them right back in? Not like there are any legitimate reasons to do something like that, clearly. Also he was born in UK so wouldn't be affected by the travel ban. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:879656375] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>so they go to syria and then let them right back in?</quote> Not like there are any legitimate reasons to do something like that, clearly.</quote> Also he was born in UK so wouldn't be affected by the travel ban.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 05/23/17 12:54:11 PM #16:	Capn Circus posted... OctilIery posted... Capn Circus posted... QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good. If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it. Except it really can't prevent it, and it creates a lot more suffering for people unable to visit family, or unable to escape suffering because of a racist restriction. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:879656413] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good.</quote> If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it.</quote> Except it really can't prevent it, and it creates a lot more suffering for people unable to visit family, or unable to escape suffering because of a racist restriction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 05/23/17 1:01:30 PM #17:	OctilIery posted... Capn Circus posted... OctilIery posted... Capn Circus posted... QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good. If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it. Except it really can't prevent it, and it creates a lot more suffering for people unable to visit family, or unable to escape suffering because of a racist restriction. Not being able to visit family is better than being dead or paralyzed. If we're not actively doing everything we can to limit our exposure, we are complicit and responsible. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:879656817] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good.</quote> If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it.</quote> Except it really can't prevent it, and it creates a lot more suffering for people unable to visit family, or unable to escape suffering because of a racist restriction.</quote> Not being able to visit family is better than being dead or paralyzed. If we're not actively doing everything we can to limit our exposure, we are complicit and responsible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QuantumScript 05/23/17 1:08:40 PM #18:	I agree with Octillery here. A travel ban is not the solution. The solutions are proper vetting and honest conversations about Islam. <cite>QuantumScript posted [p:879657206] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>I agree with Octillery here. A travel ban is not the solution. The solutions are proper vetting and honest conversations about Islam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/23/17 1:08:52 PM #19:	Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime. No good deed goes unpunished. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:879657224] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><quote>Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime.</quote> No good deed goes unpunished.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unquestionable 05/23/17 1:11:02 PM #20:	Capn Circus posted... I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. You do know that the US has far more of a strict vetting process than pretty much all of Europe right? Even people from our allied countries have to jump through hoops to be allowed in. --- Immanentize the eschaton <cite>Unquestionable posted [p:879657341] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> You do know that the US has far more of a strict vetting process than pretty much all of Europe right? Even people from our allied countries have to jump through hoops to be allowed in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 05/23/17 1:11:09 PM #21:	QuantumScript posted... I agree with Octillery here. A travel ban is not the solution. The solutions are proper vetting and honest conversations about Islam. Will never happen with today's political climate --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:879657348] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with Octillery here. A travel ban is not the solution. The solutions are proper vetting and honest conversations about Islam.</quote> Will never happen with today's political climate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/23/17 1:14:41 PM #22:	welp --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879657549] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>welp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/23/17 1:16:38 PM #23:	Capn Circus posted... Activist judges I love how when judges make ruling according to right wing political ideology they're called "constitutionalist" but when it's a judge making a left wing decision they're "activist judges" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:879657665] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>Activist judges</quote> I love how when judges make ruling according to right wing political ideology they're called "constitutionalist" but when it's a judge making a left wing decision they're "activist judges"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 05/23/17 1:16:44 PM #24:	People still shouldn't assume he's a Muslim. Is there any proof he was actually a Muslim and not just an Isis slappy? --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:879657671] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>People still shouldn't assume he's a Muslim. Is there any proof he was actually a Muslim and not just an Isis slappy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 05/23/17 1:25:30 PM #25:	RE_expert44 posted... People still shouldn't assume he's a Muslim. Is there any proof he was actually a Muslim and not just an Isis slappy? Lol --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:879658194] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>People still shouldn't assume he's a Muslim. Is there any proof he was actually a Muslim and not just an Isis slappy?</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 05/23/17 4:22:48 PM #26:	lets not jump to conclusions people --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:879669881] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>lets not jump to conclusions people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 05/23/17 4:34:08 PM #27:	Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:879670585] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 05/23/17 4:35:45 PM #28:	Capn Circus posted... QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. Yes, the travel ban would have stopped an American citizen from returning to the US. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:879670669] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> Yes, the travel ban would have stopped an American citizen from returning to the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 05/23/17 4:36:38 PM #29:	Unquestionable posted... Capn Circus posted... I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. You do know that the US has far more of a strict vetting process than pretty much all of Europe right? Even people from our allied countries have to jump through hoops to be allowed in. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/san-bernardino-attacks-us-visa-process-tashfeen-maliks-remarks-on-social-media-about-jihad-were-missed.html WASHINGTON — Tashfeen Malik, who with her husband carried out the massacre in San Bernardino, Calif., passed three background checks by American immigration officials as she moved to the United States from Pakistan. None uncovered what Ms. Malik had said online about her views on violent jihad. She said she supported it. And she said she wanted to be a part of it. American law enforcement officials said they recently discovered those old — and previously unreported — communications as they pieced together the lives of Ms. Malik and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, trying to understand how they pulled off the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil since Sept. 11, 2001. Had the authorities found the messages years ago, they might have kept her out of the country. But their recent discovery exposed a significant — and perhaps inevitable — shortcoming in how foreigners are screened when they enter the United States, particularly as people everywhere talk more and disclose more about themselves online. Despite a tremendous electronic intelligence-gathering apparatus that captures phone calls and emails from around the world, it remains impossible to conduct an exhaustive investigation for each of the tens of millions of people who are cleared each year to come to this country to work, visit or live. Federal officials said they had discovered private conversations about jihad between Ms. Malik and Mr. Farook on an online messaging platform, as well as emails and communications on a dating site, but not on traditional social media sites such as Facebook. But even those sites, where conversations can be public or semipublic, pose a logistical hurdle for immigration screeners, who do not routinely conduct social media searches during the visa process. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/us/san-bernardino-shooter-visa-application/ House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Virginia, said in a statement that it was clear to him that officials did not thoroughly vet her application. "In order to obtain a fiancee visa, it is required to demonstrate proof that the U.S. citizen and foreign national have met in person. However, Malik's immigration file does not show sufficient evidence for this requirement," he said. According to Goodlatte's office, the stamps show Malik entering Saudi Arabia on June 4, 2013. It's unclear when exactly in 2013 she left. Stamps in Farook's passport show that he entered Saudi Arabia on October 1, 2013, and left around October 20, 2013. "However, even if Farook and Malik were in Saudi Arabia at the same time, this does not provide evidence that they met in person. Additionally, Malik's Saudi Arabian visa was good for only 60 days, so this would cast doubt on the claim that the two were in Saudi Arabia at the same time," the statement read. Malik came to the United States on a fiancee visa. She later obtained a green card. Malik and Farook did in fact marry in California shortly after her arrival in the United States, as required under the terms of her visa, a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services official told CNN. A USCIS spokesman said that officials thoroughly vet every application. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:879670723] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unquestionable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> You do know that the US has far more of a strict vetting process than pretty much all of Europe right? Even people from our allied countries have to jump through hoops to be allowed in.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/san-bernardino-attacks-us-visa-process-tashfeen-maliks-remarks-on-social-media-about-jihad-were-missed.html WASHINGTON — Tashfeen Malik, who with her husband carried out the massacre in San Bernardino, Calif., passed three background checks by American immigration officials as she moved to the United States from Pakistan. None uncovered what Ms. Malik had said online about her views on violent jihad. She said she supported it. And she said she wanted to be a part of it. American law enforcement officials said they recently discovered those old — and previously unreported — communications as they pieced together the lives of Ms. Malik and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, trying to understand how they pulled off the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil since Sept. 11, 2001. Had the authorities found the messages years ago, they might have kept her out of the country. But their recent discovery exposed a significant — and perhaps inevitable — shortcoming in how foreigners are screened when they enter the United States, particularly as people everywhere talk more and disclose more about themselves online. Despite a tremendous electronic intelligence-gathering apparatus that captures phone calls and emails from around the world, it remains impossible to conduct an exhaustive investigation for each of the tens of millions of people who are cleared each year to come to this country to work, visit or live. Federal officials said they had discovered private conversations about jihad between Ms. Malik and Mr. Farook on an online messaging platform, as well as emails and communications on a dating site, but not on traditional social media sites such as Facebook. But even those sites, where conversations can be public or semipublic, pose a logistical hurdle for immigration screeners, who do not routinely conduct social media searches during the visa process. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/us/san-bernardino-shooter-visa-application/ House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Virginia, said in a statement that it was clear to him that officials did not thoroughly vet her application. "In order to obtain a fiancee visa, it is required to demonstrate proof that the U.S. citizen and foreign national have met in person. However, Malik's immigration file does not show sufficient evidence for this requirement," he said. According to Goodlatte's office, the stamps show Malik entering Saudi Arabia on June 4, 2013. It's unclear when exactly in 2013 she left. Stamps in Farook's passport show that he entered Saudi Arabia on October 1, 2013, and left around October 20, 2013. "However, even if Farook and Malik were in Saudi Arabia at the same time, this does not provide evidence that they met in person. Additionally, Malik's Saudi Arabian visa was good for only 60 days, so this would cast doubt on the claim that the two were in Saudi Arabia at the same time," the statement read. Malik came to the United States on a fiancee visa. She later obtained a green card. Malik and Farook did in fact marry in California shortly after her arrival in the United States, as required under the terms of her visa, a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services official told CNN. A USCIS spokesman said that officials thoroughly vet every application. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/23/17 4:36:52 PM #30:	Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable Not sure what point you think you're making here, but this guy 100% is Muslim and is a terrorist. So, if anything, you're just validating that comment. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:879670742] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> Not sure what point you think you're making here, but this guy 100% is Muslim and is a terrorist. So, if anything, you're just validating that comment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 05/23/17 4:37:32 PM #31:	Bloodychess posted... QuantumScript posted... I agree with Octillery here. A travel ban is not the solution. The solutions are proper vetting and honest conversations about Islam. Will never happen with today's political climate It happens all the time, you just wont be satisfied unless the "conversation" is blanket condemnation. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:879670783] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote> I agree with Octillery here. A travel ban is not the solution. The solutions are proper vetting and honest conversations about Islam.</quote> Will never happen with today's political climate</quote> It happens all the time, you just wont be satisfied unless the "conversation" is blanket condemnation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 05/23/17 4:39:58 PM #32:	OctilIery posted... Capn Circus posted... OctilIery posted... Capn Circus posted... QuantumScript posted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently. I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe. And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good. If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it. Except it really can't prevent it, and it creates a lot more suffering for people unable to visit family, or unable to escape suffering because of a racist restriction. The racist doesn't make sense <cite>muchdran posted [p:879670935] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/ His sister might be a terrorist in hiding, seeing as they both went to the ISIS-controlled parts of Syria and returned recently.</quote> I recall Trump wanting a travel ban from Syria. Easily could have happened here. Activist judges blocked Trump's ban, though. We're not safe.</quote> And this easily could've happened there even with a travel ban, or here for that matter. The travel ban would do far more harm then good.</quote> If it can prevent multiple people from dying and becoming injured, it sounds like a great plan to me. No death is worth it.</quote> Except it really can't prevent it, and it creates a lot more suffering for people unable to visit family, or unable to escape suffering because of a racist restriction.</quote> The racist doesn't make sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 05/23/17 4:44:20 PM #33:	The Admiral posted... Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable Not sure what point you think you're making here, but this guy 100% is Muslim and is a terrorist. So, if anything, you're just validating that comment. Wasn't trying to make a point, didn't see the guy was actually a Muslim, so yea obviously it's a terrorist. I was just covering my bases, if it was a white guy it would have obviously been some mentally unstable nutjob. --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:879671200] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> Not sure what point you think you're making here, but this guy 100% is Muslim and is a terrorist. So, if anything, you're just validating that comment.</quote> Wasn't trying to make a point, didn't see the guy was actually a Muslim, so yea obviously it's a terrorist. I was just covering my bases, if it was a white guy it would have obviously been some mentally unstable nutjob.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 05/23/17 4:49:06 PM #34:	Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America" --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:879671484] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 05/23/17 4:49:52 PM #35:	Where is user Marudi?? --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:879671529] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>Where is user Marudi??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maeiv 05/23/17 4:53:27 PM #36:	inb4 closed --- Achieve the dream 76ers, Eagles <cite>Maeiv posted [p:879671742] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>inb4 closed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 05/23/17 4:53:32 PM #37:	ChromaticAngel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America" Did he shout dearth to America? Didn't read, he's obviously a Muslim committing this act of violence and therefore a terrorist. You're right, violent Christians wouldn't say "death to America," they're just ordinary nutjobs, not terrorists --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:879671747] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America"</quote> Did he shout dearth to America? Didn't read, he's obviously a Muslim committing this act of violence and therefore a terrorist. You're right, violent Christians wouldn't say "death to America," they're just ordinary nutjobs, not terrorists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/23/17 5:33:31 PM #38:	Kazi1212 posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America" Did he shout dearth to America? Didn't read, he's obviously a Muslim committing this act of violence and therefore a terrorist. You're right, violent Christians wouldn't say "death to America," they're just ordinary nutjobs, not terrorists Who are all these Christian terrorists in western nations you're talking about? And by that, I don't mean someone who may have been a Christian at some point, I mean someone whose terrorist attack was specifically motivated by Christianity? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:879674074] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America"</quote> Did he shout dearth to America? Didn't read, he's obviously a Muslim committing this act of violence and therefore a terrorist. You're right, violent Christians wouldn't say "death to America," they're just ordinary nutjobs, not terrorists</quote> Who are all these Christian terrorists in western nations you're talking about? And by that, I don't mean someone who may have been a Christian at some point, I mean someone whose terrorist attack was specifically motivated by Christianity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 05/23/17 5:34:24 PM #39:	The Admiral posted... Kazi1212 posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America" Did he shout dearth to America? Didn't read, he's obviously a Muslim committing this act of violence and therefore a terrorist. You're right, violent Christians wouldn't say "death to America," they're just ordinary nutjobs, not terrorists Who are all these Christian terrorists in western nations you're talking about? And by that, I don't mean someone who may have been a terrorist, I mean someone whose terrorist attack was specifically motivated by Christianity? Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:879674121] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable </quote> I'm interested in what reading about whichever recent generic white christian mass-muderer did so specifically because of "death to America" </quote> Did he shout dearth to America? Didn't read, he's obviously a Muslim committing this act of violence and therefore a terrorist. You're right, violent Christians wouldn't say "death to America," they're just ordinary nutjobs, not terrorists</quote> Who are all these Christian terrorists in western nations you're talking about? And by that, I don't mean someone who may have been a terrorist, I mean someone whose terrorist attack was specifically motivated by Christianity?</quote> Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/23/17 5:36:33 PM #40:	CowboyDan posted... Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:879674243] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote>Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier.</quote> Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 05/23/17 5:36:50 PM #41:	Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable People died in a horrific event? Welp let's all just make jokes and not really care. Just can't believe people would target the crowd at a concert like that... some awful fuckin human beings in this world, damn shame. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:879674258] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> People died in a horrific event? Welp let's all just make jokes and not really care. Just can't believe people would target the crowd at a concert like that... some awful fuckin human beings in this world, damn shame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 05/23/17 5:37:50 PM #42:	Any relation to Salman Khan? --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:879674319] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote>Any relation to Salman Khan?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 05/23/17 5:39:26 PM #43:	Kazi1212 posted... Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable Christianity doesn't advocate death towards non-Christians. You will be tagged appropriately. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:879674423] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim? Must be a terrorist. Generic Christian white guy? Must be mentally unstable</quote> Christianity doesn't advocate death towards non-Christians. You will be tagged appropriately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 05/23/17 5:42:08 PM #44:	The Admiral posted... CowboyDan posted... Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation. That seems sociopathic. I definitely care that Christians are killing other Christians, doesnt really matter if theyre in Africa. Same goes for Muslims in the Middle East. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:879674562] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier.</quote> Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation.</quote> That seems sociopathic. I definitely care that Christians are killing other Christians, doesnt really matter if theyre in Africa. Same goes for Muslims in the Middle East.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 05/23/17 5:56:42 PM #45:	The Admiral posted... CowboyDan posted... Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation. I'm sorry you feel the need to categorize the significance of mass murder under geographical location and ideology of the perpetrator. I personally don't but to each his own. --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:879675426] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote>Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier.</quote> Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation.</quote> I'm sorry you feel the need to categorize the significance of mass murder under geographical location and ideology of the perpetrator. I personally don't but to each his own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/23/17 10:24:17 PM #47:	Kazi1212 posted... The Admiral posted... CowboyDan posted... Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation. I'm sorry you feel the need to categorize the significance of mass murder under geographical location and ideology of the perpetrator. I personally don't but to each his own. You don't feel sorry, because it's happening in no fewer than 20 counties you couldn't name because it doesn't make the mainstream news and you don't care enough to actually look it up. Islamic terrorism is a big issue because the barbarity spills out of those regions and affects the civilized areas. But keep making excuses to avoid answering my question. I know none of you regressives or apologists can. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:879691798] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote>Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier.</quote> Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation.</quote> I'm sorry you feel the need to categorize the significance of mass murder under geographical location and ideology of the perpetrator. I personally don't but to each his own.</quote> You don't feel sorry, because it's happening in no fewer than 20 counties you couldn't name because it doesn't make the mainstream news and you don't care enough to actually look it up. Islamic terrorism is a big issue because the barbarity spills out of those regions and affects the civilized areas. But keep making excuses to avoid answering my question. I know none of you regressives or apologists can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 05/23/17 10:56:20 PM #48:	The Admiral posted... Kazi1212 posted... The Admiral posted... CowboyDan posted... Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation. I'm sorry you feel the need to categorize the significance of mass murder under geographical location and ideology of the perpetrator. I personally don't but to each his own. You don't feel sorry, because it's happening in no fewer than 20 counties you couldn't name because it doesn't make the mainstream news and you don't care enough to actually look it up. Islamic terrorism is a big issue because the barbarity spills out of those regions and affects the civilized areas. But keep making excuses to avoid answering my question. I know none of you regressives or apologists can. what in the world --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:879693778] in Concert su... [t:75378066]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Why does it only count if it's in the west? Seems like a weird qualifier. </quote> Because his comments are only the product of these attacks happening in western countries. Nobody really cares if these people are killing each other and keeping it confined to their own nation. </quote> I'm sorry you feel the need to categorize the significance of mass murder under geographical location and ideology of the perpetrator. I personally don't but to each his own.</quote> You don't feel sorry, because it's happening in no fewer than 20 counties you couldn't name because it doesn't make the mainstream news and you don't care enough to actually look it up. Islamic terrorism is a big issue because the barbarity spills out of those regions and affects the civilized areas. But keep making excuses to avoid answering my question. I know none of you regressives or apologists can.</quote> what in the world</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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