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nativengine
05/21/17 10:21:52 PM
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Probably of all time.
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Vyrulisse
05/21/17 10:22:08 PM
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YookaLaylee
05/21/17 10:22:09 PM
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Mernardi
05/21/17 10:22:15 PM
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lolnope
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chill02
05/21/17 10:22:25 PM
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Hey Niko it's your cousin let's go bowling
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EffectAndCause
05/21/17 10:22:51 PM
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Grand Theft Auto V isn't my favorite video game of all time, but I think it is objectively the greatest video game ever made and could've even been the final video game ever made that sums up video games entirely.
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DocileOrangeCup
05/21/17 10:23:14 PM
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awesome999
05/21/17 10:23:59 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope

Then what is? At least give a full argument

I'm just here to observe
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 10:24:45 PM
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Not even close, no

Not because the games are bad, but simply because there are other games with a much better crafted story, more innovative, packed with more and meaningful content, etc.
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Vyrulisse
05/21/17 10:25:43 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

the youtube link in your sig is dead

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nativengine
05/21/17 10:25:49 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.
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TheMarthKoopa
05/21/17 10:25:59 PM
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GTA is vulgar trash
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Vyrulisse
05/21/17 10:27:02 PM
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nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

"Sales = Quality"

It's baby's first open world game series. Looks in-depth but is actually very shallow in terms of actual content on offer.
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chill02
05/21/17 10:27:34 PM
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If you want to talk sales, I'm pretty sure The Sims is still on top
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 10:27:57 PM
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nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

The amount of money a game makes doesn't indicate it's quality, nor does the popularity of it.
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:28:08 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Grand Theft Auto V isn't my favorite video game of all time, but I think it is objectively the greatest video game ever made and could've even been the final video game ever made that sums up video games entirely.



GTA5 isn't even my favorite GTA but you can't deny it's staying power. 3 years and it's still in the top 10 selling games each month.

Red Dead Redemption is my all time favorite game. Didn't expect any game to beat OoT for me but RDR did just that.
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YookaLaylee
05/21/17 10:28:43 PM
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nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

Nobody said that it wasn't a quality series. And selling well and making a lot of money doesn't make something the best. Transformers and Twilight made billions of dollars but their quality was low. So don't use sales and an indicator of quality lol. Personally, I think that Uncharted was the best franchise of this century so far. Or maybe the Arkham games
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:29:23 PM
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infinitydev2020 posted...
nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

The amount of money a game makes doesn't indicate it's quality, nor does the popularity of it.


It's not the end all deciding factor but it qualifies. GTA has been a top notch game since 3, all entries have been quality.
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Mernardi
05/21/17 10:29:45 PM
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Lmao.

"Game sells good = best game series ever"

CEman logic
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:30:35 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

Nobody said that it wasn't a quality series. And selling well and making a lot of money doesn't make something the best. Transformers and Twilight made billions of dollars but their quality was low. So don't use sales and an indicator of quality lol. Personally, I think that Uncharted was the best franchise of this century so far. Or maybe the Arkham games



But sales and staying power are a factor and you can't deny that.
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ArtVandelay
05/21/17 10:30:44 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 10:31:37 PM
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nativengine posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

The amount of money a game makes doesn't indicate it's quality, nor does the popularity of it.


It's not the end all deciding factor but it qualifies. GTA has been a top notch game since 3, all entries have been quality.

Sure it qualifies, but there are much bigger factors that tie more directly to the game.
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SF_Okami
05/21/17 10:31:37 PM
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GTA 4 story is fantastic tho. 5's story is a bit meh because it is so ridiculous. 4's is realistic and believable.
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:31:43 PM
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Mernardi posted...
Lmao.

"Game sells good = best game series ever"

CEman logic


Didn't say that, it is a factor however. What about ratings? Cause GTA games are often the highest rated. So if sales, staying power and rating mean nothing what does?
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:32:17 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
GTA 4 story is fantastic tho. 5's story is a bit meh because it is so ridiculous. 4's is realistic and believable.

Loved the crime doesn't pay story GTA4 told.
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:33:05 PM
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infinitydev2020 posted...
nativengine posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
nativengine posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
LOL not even close

YookaLaylee posted...
No lol

Mernardi posted...
lolnope


So no retort I see. Well I guess I'm right, I mean not many games sell like GTA has since 2000. They broke the record for biggest entertainment release, has made billions of dollars and is one of the highest populated online games but no, not a top quality series.

The amount of money a game makes doesn't indicate it's quality, nor does the popularity of it.


It's not the end all deciding factor but it qualifies. GTA has been a top notch game since 3, all entries have been quality.

Sure it qualifies, but there are much bigger factors that tie more directly to the game.


Like ratings? Because those favor GTA too.
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Offworlder1
05/21/17 10:34:07 PM
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nativengine posted...
SF_Okami posted...
GTA 4 story is fantastic tho. 5's story is a bit meh because it is so ridiculous. 4's is realistic and believable.

Loved the crime doesn't pay story GTA4 told.

GTA IV was a huge letdown after the GTA 3 era games, GTA V is a much better game and had a much better story.
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 10:34:14 PM
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All I'm seeing here is
"GTA V da best game ever, because it earned lots of cash, and people say it's good, theorfore it da best!"
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Capn Circus
05/21/17 10:35:02 PM
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nativengine posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Grand Theft Auto V isn't my favorite video game of all time, but I think it is objectively the greatest video game ever made and could've even been the final video game ever made that sums up video games entirely.



GTA5 isn't even my favorite GTA but you can't deny it's staying power. 3 years and it's still in the top 10 selling games each month.

Red Dead Redemption is my all time favorite game. Didn't expect any game to beat OoT for me but RDR did just that.


I've never understood how that works. You would think everyone who wanted to play GTA5 would have picked it up in the first year or two. With new releases coming out, it's sort of hard to comprehend people are still buying copies of it.

Maybe because the newer version was released on PS4?
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SF_Okami
05/21/17 10:35:10 PM
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nativengine posted...
SF_Okami posted...
GTA 4 story is fantastic tho. 5's story is a bit meh because it is so ridiculous. 4's is realistic and believable.

Loved the crime doesn't pay story GTA4 told.

I agree. GTA 5 is just explosions and guns everywhere. The bank robbery in GTA 4 felt like a huge deal and it felt incredible when you did it. You rob the union depository in 5 and it's just cool
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YookaLaylee
05/21/17 10:35:37 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
nativengine posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Grand Theft Auto V isn't my favorite video game of all time, but I think it is objectively the greatest video game ever made and could've even been the final video game ever made that sums up video games entirely.



GTA5 isn't even my favorite GTA but you can't deny it's staying power. 3 years and it's still in the top 10 selling games each month.

Red Dead Redemption is my all time favorite game. Didn't expect any game to beat OoT for me but RDR did just that.


I've never understood how that works. You would think everyone who wanted to play GTA5 would have picked it up in the first year or two. With new releases coming out, it's sort of hard to comprehend people are still buying copies of it.

Maybe because the newer version was released on PS4?

I want it but I haven't gotten it yet lol
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SF_Okami
05/21/17 10:36:35 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
nativengine posted...
SF_Okami posted...
GTA 4 story is fantastic tho. 5's story is a bit meh because it is so ridiculous. 4's is realistic and believable.

Loved the crime doesn't pay story GTA4 told.

GTA IV was a huge letdown after the GTA 3 era games, GTA V is a much better game and had a much better story.

Please elaborate because the story sure as hell ain't better. Gameplay sure, but not story
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 10:39:24 PM
#34:


Like Ratings?


Yeah that's fine too, but you're still not even giving analytical reasons. So far it's been
"Sales+Ratings=Quality" and that's exactly how my 10 year old nephew decides how things are good.
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:41:55 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
nativengine posted...
SF_Okami posted...
GTA 4 story is fantastic tho. 5's story is a bit meh because it is so ridiculous. 4's is realistic and believable.

Loved the crime doesn't pay story GTA4 told.

GTA IV was a huge letdown after the GTA 3 era games, GTA V is a much better game and had a much better story.

Please elaborate because the story sure as hell ain't better. Gameplay sure, but not story


I know my buddy was hoping for a happy "I'm rich and the world is mine" ending that didn't deliver in his opinion. But that's his opinion, others will differ from case to case of course.
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nativengine
05/21/17 10:46:42 PM
#36:


infinitydev2020 posted...
Like Ratings?


Yeah that's fine too, but you're still not even giving analytical reasons. So far it's been
"Sales+Ratings=Quality" and that's exactly how my 10 year old nephew decides how things are good.


The focus on not only it's main characters but it's side characters is fantastic. Graphically it's never been top notch no doubt but they've always been passable to "not bad at all". Soundtracks are always high quality, despite music genres I couldn't care less about, the music is still great. Gameplay is easy to pick up and play, but of course rewards those who learn it. That to me is big, it makes it a game that anyone can pick up and play for the most part. Each game strives to set itself apart from the next while also being tied into the series. Quality satire in each game. Loads and loads of replay value from each game, even the portables.

I can elaborate further if you'd like.
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Freddie_Mercury
05/21/17 10:52:37 PM
#37:


nativengine posted...
Gameplay is easy to pick up and play, but of course rewards those who learn it.



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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 10:57:25 PM
#38:


nativengine posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
Like Ratings?


Yeah that's fine too, but you're still not even giving analytical reasons. So far it's been
"Sales+Ratings=Quality" and that's exactly how my 10 year old nephew decides how things are good.


The focus on not only it's main characters but it's side characters is fantastic. Graphically it's never been top notch no doubt but they've always been passable to "not bad at all". Soundtracks are always high quality, despite music genres I couldn't care less about, the music is still great. Gameplay is easy to pick up and play, but of course rewards those who learn it. That to me is big, it makes it a game that anyone can pick up and play for the most part. Each game strives to set itself apart from the next while also being tied into the series. Quality satire in each game. Loads and loads of replay value from each game, even the portables.

I can elaborate further if you'd like.

That's all good and I agree, but that doesn't necessarily make it the greatest game since the start of the millennia, considering you have games like the witcher 3 with amazing side quest and stories, characters that have the depth of an ocean, amazing graphics, and a nice world to explore complimented by music.
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SF_Okami
05/21/17 10:59:10 PM
#39:


infinitydev2020 posted...
nativengine posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
Like Ratings?


Yeah that's fine too, but you're still not even giving analytical reasons. So far it's been
"Sales+Ratings=Quality" and that's exactly how my 10 year old nephew decides how things are good.


The focus on not only it's main characters but it's side characters is fantastic. Graphically it's never been top notch no doubt but they've always been passable to "not bad at all". Soundtracks are always high quality, despite music genres I couldn't care less about, the music is still great. Gameplay is easy to pick up and play, but of course rewards those who learn it. That to me is big, it makes it a game that anyone can pick up and play for the most part. Each game strives to set itself apart from the next while also being tied into the series. Quality satire in each game. Loads and loads of replay value from each game, even the portables.

I can elaborate further if you'd like.

That's all good and I agree, but that doesn't necessarily make it the greatest game since the start of the millennia, considering you have games like the witcher 3 with amazing side quest and stories, characters that have the depth of an ocean, amazing graphics, and a nice world to explore complimented by music.

I think you guys need to agree to disagree because GTA and Witchee has all the things you listed (I think....never played witcher, you would know better)
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Vladimirr
05/21/17 11:01:07 PM
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I don't know why people make these kinds of topics. You could have inserted any game title in the topic title and people would disagree. We all know there's no mutual agreement when it comes to shit like this.
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 11:03:02 PM
#41:


SF_Okami posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
nativengine posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
Like Ratings?


Yeah that's fine too, but you're still not even giving analytical reasons. So far it's been
"Sales+Ratings=Quality" and that's exactly how my 10 year old nephew decides how things are good.


The focus on not only it's main characters but it's side characters is fantastic. Graphically it's never been top notch no doubt but they've always been passable to "not bad at all". Soundtracks are always high quality, despite music genres I couldn't care less about, the music is still great. Gameplay is easy to pick up and play, but of course rewards those who learn it. That to me is big, it makes it a game that anyone can pick up and play for the most part. Each game strives to set itself apart from the next while also being tied into the series. Quality satire in each game. Loads and loads of replay value from each game, even the portables.

I can elaborate further if you'd like.

That's all good and I agree, but that doesn't necessarily make it the greatest game since the start of the millennia, considering you have games like the witcher 3 with amazing side quest and stories, characters that have the depth of an ocean, amazing graphics, and a nice world to explore complimented by music.

I think you guys need to agree to disagree because GTA and Witchee has all the things you listed (I think....never played witcher, you would know better)

I know I just think there are games who have done better than GTA V when it comes to different things and just don't see GTA as the "so great it would deserve to be the last game ever".
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El Mexicano Texano
05/21/17 11:03:30 PM
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Funny thing is no one has even said Chinatown Wars which is easily the best one
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SF_Okami
05/21/17 11:04:42 PM
#43:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
Funny thing is no one has even said Chinatown Wars which is easily the best one

I played it. Don't remember it too well but it was fun.
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 11:06:58 PM
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Honestly after thinking about it, the end of all games should go to Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, that game was the best game I ever played back then.
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Mernardi
05/21/17 11:07:34 PM
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infinitydev2020 posted...
Honestly after thinking about it, the end of all games should go to Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, that game was the best game I ever played back then.

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YookaLaylee
05/21/17 11:07:45 PM
#46:


infinitydev2020 posted...
Honestly after thinking about it, the end of all games should go to Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, that game was the best game I ever played back then.

Is that a joke?
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infinitydev2020
05/21/17 11:09:45 PM
#47:


Mernardi posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
Honestly after thinking about it, the end of all games should go to Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, that game was the best game I ever played back then.

Marked for trolling.

Why though? I remember having the biggest blast of my life when I first played it back in the summer of 2007 (I got it late) and I just got a wave of memories coming back when I looked at my sonic collection. I died a lot but boy was it good.
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SF_Okami
05/21/17 11:09:51 PM
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Can we all agree Corey in the House was the game to end all games? Metacritic says so
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YookaLaylee
05/21/17 11:10:36 PM
#49:


infinitydev2020 posted...
Mernardi posted...
infinitydev2020 posted...
Honestly after thinking about it, the end of all games should go to Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, that game was the best game I ever played back then.

Marked for trolling.

Why though? I remember having the biggest blast of my life when I first played it back in the summer of 2007 (I got it late) and I just got a wave of memories coming back when I looked at my sonic collection. I died a lot but boy was it good.

Definitely trolling
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Mernardi
05/21/17 11:10:42 PM
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SF_Okami posted...
Can we all agree Corey in the House was the game to end all games? Metacritic says so

Yes. On that we can all agree.

I was surprised at how well they adapted the anime.
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