Current Events > The reason African Americans have it tough and whites are "privileged"

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Glass_Phantom 05/19/17 8:54:27 PM #1:	In the mid-20th century, the first suburbs were being born in places like Levittown. White Americans were able to move into them and buy a new home for about $8,000 -- about $70,000 in today's money. Very affordable! However, from 1934 until 1968, the Federal Housing Administration was horrendously racist against African Americans. FHA underwriters warned that "even the presence one or two non-white families could undermine real estate values in suburbs." The federal government refused to underwrite loans for black families in white neighborhoods. And this was going on everywhere, even in the North, in places like Massachusetts and Minnesota. The same practices were adopted by the banking industry. As a result, African Americans, even G.I.'s who'd fought for their country in segregated ranks, couldn't enjoy a piece of the pie in the post-war boom. This is the reason why so many African Americans today are constrained to the inner city. Today, suburban homes cost, I think, about $270,000 on average. From 70k to 270k -- not so affordable anymore. As a result, many white families have been able to enjoy the wealth that comes from having equity in a home. That initial wealth was able to grow and mature over the last 60 years... while African Americans were left out. This is the reason why today, the average African American family only has 5% the savings of the average white family. At the same time, racially integrated neighborhoods in the inner city were bulldozed to build public housing. However, the government's policy was that only black people could live in projects in black neighborhoods and only white people could live in projects in white neighborhoods. This was one of the worst mistakes of the New Deal. Neighborhoods became segregated. On top of all this, municipalities started zoning black neighborhoods for things like dirty industry, chemical waste treatment, etc. All the wealth and opportunity moved out, and blacks were stuck. Property values nosedived, which meant there wasn't enough money to adequately run the public schools. Without education and good jobs, crime went up. And then the drugs moved in. This is the reason why the average African American only makes 60% as much as the average Caucasian American today. The whites living on the outside looked in and saw all the problems endemic to black neighborhoods. Which only reinforced the racist notion that there was something self-destructive and inferior about blacks. In short, all of the problems faced by African Americans were socially-engineered into existence a long time ago, and that's not even talking about slavery, sharecropping, and Jim Crow. Conservative politicians like to denounce efforts to remedy this as "social engineering" and "wealth redistribution," but the truth is the unequal system we have was itself borne out of social engineering and wealth redistribution that went the other way. If we want to fix our impoverished communities, reduce crime, and guarantee everyone an equal chance at success, it will probably take some social engineering to do it. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:879437430] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>In the mid-20th century, the first suburbs were being born in places like Levittown. White Americans were able to move into them and buy a new home for about $8,000 -- about $70,000 in today's money. Very affordable! However, from 1934 until 1968, the Federal Housing Administration was horrendously racist against African Americans. FHA underwriters warned that "even the presence one or two non-white families could undermine real estate values in suburbs." The federal government refused to underwrite loans for black families in white neighborhoods. And this was going on everywhere, even in the North, in places like Massachusetts and Minnesota. The same practices were adopted by the banking industry. As a result, African Americans, even G.I.'s who'd fought for their country in segregated ranks, couldn't enjoy a piece of the pie in the post-war boom. This is the reason why so many African Americans today are constrained to the inner city. Today, suburban homes cost, I think, about $270,000 on average. From 70k to 270k -- not so affordable anymore. As a result, many white families have been able to enjoy the wealth that comes from having equity in a home. That initial wealth was able to grow and mature over the last 60 years... while African Americans were left out. This is the reason why today, the average African American family only has 5% the savings of the average white family. At the same time, racially integrated neighborhoods in the inner city were bulldozed to build public housing. However, the government's policy was that only black people could live in projects in black neighborhoods and only white people could live in projects in white neighborhoods. This was one of the worst mistakes of the New Deal. Neighborhoods became segregated. On top of all this, municipalities started zoning black neighborhoods for things like dirty industry, chemical waste treatment, etc. All the wealth and opportunity moved out, and blacks were stuck. Property values nosedived, which meant there wasn't enough money to adequately run the public schools. Without education and good jobs, crime went up. And then the drugs moved in. This is the reason why the average African American only makes 60% as much as the average Caucasian American today. The whites living on the outside looked in and saw all the problems endemic to black neighborhoods. Which only reinforced the racist notion that there was something self-destructive and inferior about blacks. In short, all of the problems faced by African Americans were socially-engineered into existence a long time ago, and that's not even talking about slavery, sharecropping, and Jim Crow. Conservative politicians like to denounce efforts to remedy this as "social engineering" and "wealth redistribution," but the truth is the unequal system we have was itself borne out of social engineering and wealth redistribution that went the other way. If we want to fix our impoverished communities, reduce crime, and guarantee everyone an equal chance at success, it will probably take some social engineering to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
known2FAIL 05/19/17 9:04:07 PM #2:	This is being ignored naturally --- TheRealMVP is a dirty welcher: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000208-sports-and-racing-nba/71947359 <cite>known2FAIL posted [p:879437966] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>This is being ignored naturally</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 05/19/17 9:30:22 PM #3:	Bump, I suppose. =) <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:879439479] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>Bump, I suppose. =)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 05/19/17 9:31:28 PM #4:	homie watchin some tim wise <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:879439554] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>homie watchin some tim wise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/19/17 9:33:12 PM #5:	known2FAIL posted... This is being ignored naturally Can't bat it away with a shitty bootstrap troll post, so they'll ignore it. I'll help keep it bumped though --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:879439651] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>known2FAIL posted...</cite> <quote>This is being ignored naturally</quote> Can't bat it away with a shitty bootstrap troll post, so they'll ignore it. I'll help keep it bumped though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 05/19/17 9:35:21 PM #6:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:879439788] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 05/19/17 9:36:19 PM #7:	Mal_Fet posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ lmfao. i remember you used to post this shitty video all the time. didnt even have to watch 5 seconds <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:879439852] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ</quote> lmfao. i remember you used to post this shitty video all the time. didnt even have to watch 5 seconds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 05/19/17 9:37:20 PM #8:	AlternativeFAQS posted... lmfao. i remember you used to post this shitty video all the time. didnt even have to watch 5 seconds I'll post it as long as it remains unrefuted :) --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:879439916] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao. i remember you used to post this shitty video all the time. didnt even have to watch 5 seconds</quote> I'll post it as long as it remains unrefuted :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/19/17 9:38:53 PM #9:	Glass_Phantom posted... In short, all of the problems faced by African Americans were socially-engineered into existence a long time ago, and that's not even talking about slavery, sharecropping, and Jim Crow. Conservative politicians like to denounce efforts to remedy this as "social engineering" and "wealth redistribution," but the truth is the unequal system we have was itself borne out of social engineering and wealth redistribution that went the other way. If we want to fix our impoverished communities, reduce crime, and guarantee everyone an equal chance at success, it will probably take some social engineering to do it Maybe all these horrible things done by the government is why we should not give so much power and control to the government. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:879440012] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>In short, all of the problems faced by African Americans were socially-engineered into existence a long time ago, and that's not even talking about slavery, sharecropping, and Jim Crow. Conservative politicians like to denounce efforts to remedy this as "social engineering" and "wealth redistribution," but the truth is the unequal system we have was itself borne out of social engineering and wealth redistribution that went the other way. If we want to fix our impoverished communities, reduce crime, and guarantee everyone an equal chance at success, it will probably take some social engineering to do it</quote> Maybe all these horrible things done by the government is why we should not give so much power and control to the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 05/19/17 9:40:06 PM #10:	Proudclad seemed real interested in discussing Muslims enslaving North Africans. Why isn't he interested in this topic though? @Clad you still here bud? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:879440076] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>Proudclad seemed real interested in discussing Muslims enslaving North Africans. Why isn't he interested in this topic though? @Clad you still here bud?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 05/19/17 9:42:07 PM #11:	Mal_Fet posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... lmfao. i remember you used to post this shitty video all the time. didnt even have to watch 5 seconds I'll post it as long as it remains unrefuted :) all the dipshit does (in his career, not this video) is come up with some conservative bullshit and then pull anecdotal evidence from history to make it fit. of course people like you eat it up. <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:879440180] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao. i remember you used to post this shitty video all the time. didnt even have to watch 5 seconds</quote> I'll post it as long as it remains unrefuted :)</quote> all the dipshit does (in his career, not this video) is come up with some conservative bullshit and then pull anecdotal evidence from history to make it fit. of course people like you eat it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 05/19/17 9:43:34 PM #12:	Zero personal responsibility? That was a long time ago. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcawnRIyeok <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:879440261] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>Zero personal responsibility? That was a long time ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 05/19/17 9:51:33 PM #13:	AlternativeFAQS posted... all the dipshit does (in his career, not this video) is come up with some conservative bullshit and then pull anecdotal evidence from history to make it fit. I don't think you know what an anecdote is. Also, an analysis isn't wrong just because the conclusion aligns with fiscal conservative theory. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:879440731] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>all the dipshit does (in his career, not this video) is come up with some conservative bullshit and then pull anecdotal evidence from history to make it fit. </quote> I don't think you know what an anecdote is. Also, an analysis isn't wrong just because the conclusion aligns with fiscal conservative theory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 05/19/17 9:54:25 PM #14:	Mal_Fet posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... all the dipshit does (in his career, not this video) is come up with some conservative bullshit and then pull anecdotal evidence from history to make it fit. I don't think you know what an anecdote is. Also, an analysis isn't wrong just because the conclusion aligns with fiscal conservative theory. when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does. <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:879440880] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>all the dipshit does (in his career, not this video) is come up with some conservative bullshit and then pull anecdotal evidence from history to make it fit. </quote> I don't think you know what an anecdote is. Also, an analysis isn't wrong just because the conclusion aligns with fiscal conservative theory.</quote> when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 05/19/17 10:02:43 PM #15:	AlternativeFAQS posted... when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does. Ok, so you either never watched his entire talk or you forgot all the parts that proved leftist fiscal theory wrong. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:879441344] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does.</quote> Ok, so you either never watched his entire talk or you forgot all the parts that proved leftist fiscal theory wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 05/19/17 10:12:23 PM #16:	Mal_Fet posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does. Ok, so you either never watched his entire talk or you forgot all the parts that proved leftist fiscal theory wrong. How does the video relate to the post made in the OP? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:879441907] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does.</quote> Ok, so you either never watched his entire talk or you forgot all the parts that proved leftist fiscal theory wrong.</quote> How does the video relate to the post made in the OP?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 05/19/17 10:14:21 PM #17:	Glass_Phantom posted... If we want to fix our impoverished communities, reduce crime, and guarantee everyone an equal chance at success, it will probably take some social engineering to do it. So, does this mean increasing the "social engineering" or "wealth redistribution" that is already in place? Affirmative Action has been active for 56 years. So, for example, a black man who is 74 years old today has lived their entire working adult life during affirmative action. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:879442018] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>If we want to fix our impoverished communities, reduce crime, and guarantee everyone an equal chance at success, it will probably take some social engineering to do it.</quote> So, does this mean increasing the "social engineering" or "wealth redistribution" that is already in place? Affirmative Action has been active for 56 years. So, for example, a black man who is 74 years old today has lived their entire working adult life during affirmative action.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 05/19/17 10:17:18 PM #18:	TC schooling us --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:879442193] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>TC schooling us</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 05/19/17 10:22:13 PM #19:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Mal_Fet posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does. Ok, so you either never watched his entire talk or you forgot all the parts that proved leftist fiscal theory wrong. How does the video relate to the post made in the OP? It's to further emphasize how government intervention and social programs are doing more harm than good to disenfranchised minorities. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:879442492] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>when you do a study, you're supposed to come to a conclusion based off the information. not just stick to your hypothesis and try to find stuff that fits it, which is all he does.</quote> Ok, so you either never watched his entire talk or you forgot all the parts that proved leftist fiscal theory wrong.</quote> How does the video relate to the post made in the OP?</quote> It's to further emphasize how government intervention and social programs are doing more harm than good to disenfranchised minorities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 05/19/17 10:33:45 PM #20:	So much for you Northerners saying only the South is racist --- http://i.imgur.com/J1Fi0Cw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MCC79Ov.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iEMaJl1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/grqvrr9.png <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:879443108] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>So much for you Northerners saying only the South is racist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 05/20/17 4:04:29 AM #21:	So serious question, how, in any way what so ever, does this mean white potential home buyers today are privileged? --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:879455766] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>So serious question, how, in any way what so ever, does this mean white potential home buyers today are privileged?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 05/20/17 4:06:49 AM #22:	Mal_Fet posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ Didn't that guy say Obama was Hitler <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:879455799] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbOcgj8AjQ</quote> Didn't that guy say Obama was Hitler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 05/20/17 4:40:32 AM #23:	is it segregated neighborhoods or safe space --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:879456412] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>is it segregated neighborhoods or safe space</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 05/20/17 5:01:14 AM #24:	EdgeMaster posted... So serious question, how, in any way what so ever, does this mean white potential home buyers today are privileged? they're more likely to have been raised in an area with better schools by parents who can pass the wealth accumulated on to them. Obviously this has the potential to not hold true for individuals Op was a really articulate great post. Thanks for that. --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:879456763] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>So serious question, how, in any way what so ever, does this mean white potential home buyers today are privileged?</quote> they're more likely to have been raised in an area with better schools by parents who can pass the wealth accumulated on to them. Obviously this has the potential to not hold true for individuals Op was a really articulate great post. Thanks for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DemonBuffet 05/20/17 5:05:50 AM #25:	Bu-bu-but everyone has the same opportunities! Grandpapa may have bought me a $15k car and paid for my college tuitions, but I am not privileged!!! --- Trololol <cite>DemonBuffet posted [p:879456837] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>Bu-bu-but everyone has the same opportunities! Grandpapa may have bought me a $15k car and paid for my college tuitions, but I am not privileged!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 05/20/17 5:11:29 AM #26:	DemonBuffet posted... Grandpapa may have bought me a $15k car and paid for my college tuitions, but I am not privileged!!! Yeah, some people are privileged with wealthy origins like that. Some, not everyone in the same racial group... Glad we covered that. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://ultraimg.com/images/2016/11/11/xWp0.gif http://ultraimg.com/images/2016/11/11/xWpz.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:879456936] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>DemonBuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Grandpapa may have bought me a $15k car and paid for my college tuitions, but I am not privileged!!!</quote> Yeah, some people are privileged with wealthy origins like that. Some, not everyone in the same racial group... Glad we covered that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 5:12:17 AM #27:	DemonBuffet posted... Bu-bu-but everyone has the same opportunities! Grandpapa may have bought me a $15k car and paid for my college tuitions, but I am not privileged!!! Yup, every white person is super rich. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879456951] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>DemonBuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Bu-bu-but everyone has the same opportunities! Grandpapa may have bought me a $15k car and paid for my college tuitions, but I am not privileged!!!</quote> Yup, every white person is super rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 05/20/17 5:32:48 AM #28:	I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!". <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:879457280] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 5:37:26 AM #29:	Dash_Harber posted... I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!". And that is a stupid analogy. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879457361] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!".</quote> And that is a stupid analogy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 05/20/17 5:40:05 AM #30:	Hash-Brown posted... Dash_Harber posted... I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!". And that is a stupid analogy. How so? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:879457408] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!".</quote> And that is a stupid analogy.</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 5:53:08 AM #31:	Dash_Harber posted... Hash-Brown posted... Dash_Harber posted... I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!". And that is a stupid analogy. How so? Because you are under the assumption that most white people are not suffering the same economic problems everyone else is. And the assumption that minorities are not the ones at the top of the list when it comes to getting financial help. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879457633] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!".</quote> And that is a stupid analogy.</quote> How so?</quote> Because you are under the assumption that most white people are not suffering the same economic problems everyone else is. And the assumption that minorities are not the ones at the top of the list when it comes to getting financial help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 05/20/17 6:05:10 AM #32:	Hash-Brown posted... Dash_Harber posted... Hash-Brown posted... Dash_Harber posted... I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!". And that is a stupid analogy. How so? Because you are under the assumption that most white people are not suffering the same economic problems everyone else is. And the assumption that minorities are not the ones at the top of the list when it comes to getting financial help. The concern is more the societal issues that and the past problems that have to lead us to today's situation. Nobody earnestly believes that only one race is effected by economic problems. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:879457860] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!".</quote> And that is a stupid analogy.</quote> How so?</quote> Because you are under the assumption that most white people are not suffering the same economic problems everyone else is. And the assumption that minorities are not the ones at the top of the list when it comes to getting financial help.</quote> The concern is more the societal issues that and the past problems that have to lead us to today's situation. Nobody earnestly believes that only one race is effected by economic problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/20/17 6:17:26 AM #33:	This is a good topic. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879458118] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>This is a good topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 05/20/17 8:30:01 AM #34:	Kineth posted... This is a good topic. Thank you. =) <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:879460886] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>This is a good topic.</quote> Thank you. =)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 05/20/17 8:32:20 AM #35:	Hash-Brown posted... Dash_Harber posted... Hash-Brown posted... Dash_Harber posted... I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!". And that is a stupid analogy. How so? Because you are under the assumption that most white people are not suffering the same economic problems everyone else is. And the assumption that minorities are not the ones at the top of the list when it comes to getting financial help. But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:879460954] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I always likened it to this; Let's say I challenge you to a footrace tomorrow. While you are sleeping at night, I sneak into your room and break both your kneecaps with a 9-Iron. The next day, I apologize for what I've done and state, "from now on, we are going to run a perfectly fair race, now, 1-2-3 Go!".</quote> And that is a stupid analogy.</quote> How so?</quote> Because you are under the assumption that most white people are not suffering the same economic problems everyone else is. And the assumption that minorities are not the ones at the top of the list when it comes to getting financial help.</quote> But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 05/20/17 8:42:39 AM #36:	What is the solution? --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:879461205] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>What is the solution?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 8:42:59 AM #37:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. We are all the same race. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879461215] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. </quote> We are all the same race.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 05/20/17 8:48:06 AM #38:	Hash-Brown posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. We are all the same race. Stop --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:879461342] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. </quote> We are all the same race.</quote> Stop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 8:52:56 AM #39:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Hash-Brown posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. We are all the same race. Stop Am I wrong? --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879461444] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>But his analogy is about race as a whole, not just individuals. And as a whole, white people are ahead of black people. There may individuals from either race that fall on either end of the spectrum when it comes to wealth, but that's not the point. </quote> We are all the same race.</quote> Stop</quote> Am I wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/20/17 8:56:26 AM #40:	It doesn't ring true coming from you, especially with the points you've argued. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879461543] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't ring true coming from you, especially with the points you've argued.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 8:58:05 AM #41:	Kineth posted... It doesn't ring true coming from you, especially with the points you've argued. Just answer the question. Is it true? --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879461592] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't ring true coming from you, especially with the points you've argued.</quote> Just answer the question. Is it true?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 05/20/17 8:58:45 AM #42:	Hash-Brown posted... Kineth posted... It doesn't ring true coming from you, especially with the points you've argued. Just answer the question. Is it true? As far as the social construct is recognized? Nope. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:879461611] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote> It doesn't ring true coming from you, especially with the points you've argued.</quote> Just answer the question. Is it true?</quote> As far as the social construct is recognized? Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/20/17 8:58:59 AM #43:	I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it? And if you could read between the lines, I also already answered your second question. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879461616] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it? And if you could read between the lines, I also already answered your second question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/20/17 8:59:19 AM #44:	Nomadic View posted... What is the solution? well for starters people could start listening to people who know these things rather than covering their ears and going "wah! I can't hear you!" --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:879461625] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>What is the solution?</quote> well for starters people could start listening to people who know these things rather than covering their ears and going "wah! I can't hear you!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 9:04:39 AM #45:	Kineth posted... I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it? What don't I support? The fact that "white privilege" is a bullshit term to blame white people when the reality is even white people suffer just as much and the issue is less about race and more about the wealthy shitting on the poor in general. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879461758] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it?</quote> What don't I support? The fact that "white privilege" is a bullshit term to blame white people when the reality is even white people suffer just as much and the issue is less about race and more about the wealthy shitting on the poor in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/20/17 9:07:45 AM #46:	Hash-Brown posted... Kineth posted... I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it? What don't I support? The fact that "white privilege" is a bullshit term to blame white people when the reality is even white people suffer just as much I agree with how you concluded the post, but the fact of the matter is that there's plenty of statistics to show that "just as much" is not valid. Yes, white people aren't immune to problems and it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what is being talked about if you think people are suggesting that is what white privilege is. </scene> --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879461835] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it?</quote> What don't I support? The fact that "white privilege" is a bullshit term to blame white people when the reality is even white people suffer just as much</quote> I agree with how you concluded the post, but the fact of the matter is that there's plenty of statistics to show that "just as much" is not valid. Yes, white people aren't immune to problems and it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what is being talked about if you think people are suggesting that is what white privilege is. </scene></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 05/20/17 9:11:33 AM #47:	Kineth posted... Hash-Brown posted... Kineth posted... I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it? What don't I support? The fact that "white privilege" is a bullshit term to blame white people when the reality is even white people suffer just as much I agree with how you concluded the post, but the fact of the matter is that there's plenty of statistics to show that "just as much" is not valid. Yes, white people aren't immune to problems and it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what is being talked about if you think people are suggesting that is what white privilege is. </scene> Then tell me, what is white privilege? And don't bring up stuff from several generations ago, tell me what it is today. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:879461936] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I answered your question already. Rephrasing the question doesn't change that trying to argue a position you clearly don't support. What's your end game on it?</quote> What don't I support? The fact that "white privilege" is a bullshit term to blame white people when the reality is even white people suffer just as much</quote> I agree with how you concluded the post, but the fact of the matter is that there's plenty of statistics to show that "just as much" is not valid. Yes, white people aren't immune to problems and it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what is being talked about if you think people are suggesting that is what white privilege is. </scene></quote> Then tell me, what is white privilege? And don't bring up stuff from several generations ago, tell me what it is today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/20/17 9:12:06 AM #48:	Scene ended. Read a book. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879461950] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>Scene ended. Read a book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Davjat 05/20/17 9:12:20 AM #49:	Your initial statement or "premise" is based on racial bigotry, where you plainly state that by virtue of being white you were somehow afforded some advantage previously without any actual proof of this occurring. This same "logic" could be used to throw all black people immediately in prison/jail since "they are all criminals.". Just note, it's not my argument or claim, but your very own. --- The RUSSIANS are coming, the RUSSIANS are coming. hide y0 kids, hide y0 wive, but especially hide y0 emails. <cite>Davjat posted [p:879461962] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote>Your initial statement or "premise" is based on racial bigotry, where you plainly state that by virtue of being white you were somehow afforded some advantage previously without any actual proof of this occurring. This same "logic" could be used to throw all black people immediately in prison/jail since "they are all criminals.". Just note, it's not my argument or claim, but your very own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 05/20/17 9:15:14 AM #50:	Hash-Brown posted... Then tell me, what is white privilege? And don't bring up stuff from several generations ago "What is water? And don't bring up wet stuff that the earth is mostly made out of." If you take a large group of people and give them an enormous head start they're still going to be ahead as a group 60 years later. There will be some individuals from both sides who are exceptions but that doesn't change the overall trend. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:879462035] in The reason... [t:75365377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote>Then tell me, what is white privilege? And don't bring up stuff from several generations ago</quote> "What is water? And don't bring up wet stuff that the earth is mostly made out of." If you take a large group of people and give them an enormous head start they're still going to be ahead as a group 60 years later. There will be some individuals from both sides who are exceptions but that doesn't change the overall trend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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