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Solar_Crimson
05/17/17 8:31:42 PM
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http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/02/19/our-lives/african-american-idol-aminyan-difference-double-edged-sword/

Her name is Amina du Jean, a Detroit-native:
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Some interesting excerpts:
"I think that the term 'cultural appropriation' is overused and takes away from real appropriation," Amina says. "I'm a naturally feminine person so me acting feminine or cutesy isn't appropriation, in my opinion, but rather who I am. I think ironically, those who think a black woman cannot be naturally feminine-behaving are racist and limiting themselves. Personally, nonblack people having cornrows or dreads don't look aesthetically good to me, but as long as they aren't claiming them for their own, I won't throw up my hands about it.

"Half of Detroit public schools are defunct and Flint, Michigan’s water is poisoned with lead," she continues. "I'd rather concern myself with that than a nonissue such as appropriation. While I don't approve of people taking on a Japanese name when they’re not Japanese or wearing a geisha costume, I personally don't understand how someone can appropriate pop culture. Most aspects of pop culture are directly taken from other aspects of traditional culture. It's an amalgamation. I don’t think the word 'appropriate' would be correct here by its definition’s sake. Even if so, to me it’s a nonissue.”

She would eventually join a J-Idol group called Chick Girls whose concept was "Hollywood style," fashioned less on AKB48 and more on Girls Generation. I watched some of the group's YouTube videos and they looked like they got along really well, so I asked her how that was going. For the most part it’s been working out really well for her, she told me, but there was one incident.

"The leader of the group hated me for some reason and tried to turn everyone in the group against me," Amina says. "But I figured I'm new, so I would try to gaman, you know -- to persevere. But it got ridiculous, so I told the management that I didn't want to cause any problems but that girl is talking about me, and saying stuff like "Oh, I didn't know you could speak Japanese" -- just being rude, you know? And apparently they'd gotten complaints from other members of the group, so that girl got put out. Other than that it’s been pretty good."

"Sometimes I think it would be easier if I were white," she adds. "Because I've seen it before: A white girl who can't speak any Japanese will get a bigger part than I could get. In America that white girl wouldn't be considered beautiful, but because in Japan white is automatically pretty or exotic, they'll get the part. So I kinda have some -- how should I say, um -- resentment towards that. However, at the same time, if I weren't black, I wouldn't be as special. Nobody would mind, nobody would care. I do'’t want it to be a niche, but that’s what draws people in. Then I can inspire them with my personality and perseverance, and I think that's for the better."

Pretty cool.
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chill02
05/17/17 8:32:18 PM
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links aren't working >.>
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exvampire
05/17/17 8:39:25 PM
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I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.
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FFVII_REMAKE
05/17/17 8:40:43 PM
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Y'all can have her.
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ChromaticAngel
05/17/17 8:40:52 PM
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exvampire posted...
I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.

Her name sounds French so maybe her father is French?
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Zack_Attackv1
05/17/17 8:41:17 PM
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Blue_Inigo
05/17/17 8:41:40 PM
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Are we sure she's black?
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Solar_Crimson
05/17/17 8:44:19 PM
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exvampire posted...
I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.

Blue_Inigo posted...
Are we sure she's black?

Black people come in all shades, and she looks Black to me.

FFVII_REMAKE posted...
Y'all can have her.

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SSJGrimReaper
05/17/17 8:45:01 PM
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she looks like she's dead inside
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Mernardi
05/17/17 8:45:59 PM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
she looks like she's dead inside

So... basically just like every Idol?
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obsolete
05/17/17 8:47:23 PM
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Is she a tan white person
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Blue_Inigo
05/17/17 8:47:32 PM
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Where are the bikini pics
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SSJGrimReaper
05/17/17 8:49:31 PM
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Mernardi posted...
SSJGrimReaper posted...
she looks like she's dead inside

So... basically just like every Idol?

damn
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megATOMOS
05/17/17 8:56:09 PM
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exvampire posted...
I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.

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africa is the 2nd biggest continent on earth, we don't all look the same
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Puglia77
05/17/17 9:01:50 PM
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I remember her. IIRC there was a topic on CE about how she lost a competition and she cried or something like that
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Solar_Crimson
05/17/17 10:57:00 PM
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legendarylemur
05/17/17 10:59:15 PM
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Wow those bikini shots are actually really good
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Kitt
05/17/17 11:02:21 PM
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exvampire posted...
She looks 100% white.

Stevie Wonder, is that you?
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Gheb
05/17/17 11:02:30 PM
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It's odd seeing typical Japanese idol-styling on a non-East-Asian. I'm not sure I've ever seen eye-widening contacts on anyone but East-Asians.
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BigSLM1993
05/17/17 11:15:48 PM
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megATOMOS posted...
exvampire posted...
I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.

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africa is the 2nd biggest continent on earth, we don't all look the same


Thank you. I think people forget that Black people come in a variety of different skin tones.
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GiftedACIII
05/17/17 11:59:55 PM
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lmao this topic got CE'd.
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Blue_Inigo
05/18/17 12:15:47 AM
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It's not her skin tone. Her facial structure doesn't have any resemblance to an African one imo
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ChromaticAngel
05/18/17 1:21:23 AM
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megATOMOS posted...
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Fula hottest
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ClockworkHare
05/18/17 1:28:53 AM
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If someone's 1/16 black and still accepted as an idol in Japan, that's progress as is...

Just take it.
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Sad_Face
05/18/17 1:32:20 AM
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megATOMOS posted...
exvampire posted...
I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.

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OXfRVLe
africa is the 2nd biggest continent on earth, we don't all look the same


Martinicans? Guadeloupeans? Haitians? I thought this was going to be about Africans, not Black people around the world.

And this seems a bit misleading, those representatives, aren't actually representatives of their ethnicity/nationality. Just looking at the West Indies, black people come in a ton of different shades. A lot of Haitians I find tend to have that golden brown look.
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weapon_d00d816
05/18/17 1:33:31 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's not her skin tone. Her facial structure doesn't have any resemblance to an African one imo

This. I don't know why people are bringing up skin tones.
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Sad_Face
05/18/17 1:50:01 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's not her skin tone. Her facial structure doesn't have any resemblance to an African one imo


There's a possibility of her having plastic surgery. Or she knows how to shadow really well with make up. The article doesn't give any implications that she isn't black. They straight up say she's US born and a foreigner to Japan.
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Solar_Crimson
05/18/17 7:53:05 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's not her skin tone. Her facial structure doesn't have any resemblance to an African one imo

Well, there is the possibility that she's mixed to a degree. Some Black people do have similar facial structures.
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Solar_Crimson
05/19/17 1:09:13 PM
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DidoIrrumata
05/19/17 1:13:53 PM
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She sounds intelligent
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Returning_CEmen
05/19/17 1:29:01 PM
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She is still trying? I remember hearing about this years ago.
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BettyWhite
05/19/17 1:34:29 PM
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megATOMOS posted...
exvampire posted...
I don't get how she's black. She looks 100% white.

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africa is the 2nd biggest continent on earth, we don't all look the same


She looks like a Cape Verdean fucked an Asian dude.
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Ricemills
05/20/17 10:49:06 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
It's not her skin tone. Her facial structure doesn't have any resemblance to an African one imo

This. I don't know why people are bringing up skin tones.


maybe because the topic title said Black, not Africa?
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Kineth
05/20/17 10:51:24 PM
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BettyWhite posted...
She looks like a Cape Verdean fucked an Asian dude.


Probably has Native DNA.
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jimbiz
05/24/17 9:17:52 PM
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Move over Candice Patton, CE got a new fave black girl and she's pretending to be Asian. Smdh
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SubtletyRefuge
05/27/17 3:45:55 AM
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jimbiz posted...
Move over Candice Patton, CE got a new fave black girl and she's pretending to be Asian. Smdh

Smh? Why is that a bad thing?
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jimbiz
05/27/17 8:00:41 PM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
jimbiz posted...
Move over Candice Patton, CE got a new fave black girl and she's pretending to be Asian. Smdh

Smh? Why is that a bad thing?

A black girl that is tryna act Asian is not a bad thing? Lol
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Kineth
05/27/17 10:56:39 PM
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jimbiz posted...
SubtletyRefuge posted...
jimbiz posted...
Move over Candice Patton, CE got a new fave black girl and she's pretending to be Asian. Smdh

Smh? Why is that a bad thing?

A black girl that is tryna act Asian is not a bad thing? Lol


A Japanese person acting Japanese?
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Blue_Dream87
05/28/17 1:43:40 AM
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TrulyEpicLawls
05/28/17 1:47:23 AM
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If we're talking a black girl doing Idol, let's talk a black guy doing enka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFdUGs6qIuw


I like to share this to people because it starts like it's going to be generic gangsta kid being all R&B and whatever, then shit gets enka and bricks are shat. He's super popular because he appeals to old folks for doing enka, but younger girls because he's an American and a handsome young man, and everyone inbetween because... well, he's black.
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Solar_Crimson
05/28/17 3:32:13 PM
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TrulyEpicLawls posted...
If we're talking a black girl doing Idol, let's talk a black guy doing enka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFdUGs6qIuw


I like to share this to people because it starts like it's going to be generic gangsta kid being all R&B and whatever, then shit gets enka and bricks are shat. He's super popular because he appeals to old folks for doing enka, but younger girls because he's an American and a handsome young man, and everyone inbetween because... well, he's black.

Yeah, I'm aware of Jero as well. Pretty awesome how he managed to essentially revive enka for a younger audience.

Also, that video is blocked in my country. :/
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Chicken
05/30/17 1:17:18 AM
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Looks like a soulless 12 year old. Creepy and nasty.
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gamepimp12
06/02/17 11:37:32 PM
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She doesn't look black cause she doesn't have a lot of black features, she looks mixed which is the same thing but not the direction I imagined when I clicked

But whatever that's semantics

I don't get why a non Japanese person performing japense music in Japan would even registered to someone as appropriation.
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Terra-enforcer
06/02/17 11:47:44 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
She doesn't look black cause she doesn't have a lot of black features, she looks mixed which is the same thing but not the direction I imagined when I clicked

But whatever that's semantics

I don't get why a non Japanese person performing japense music in Japan would even registered to someone as appropriation.

"black features"
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gamepimp12
06/03/17 9:30:00 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
She doesn't look black cause she doesn't have a lot of black features, she looks mixed which is the same thing but not the direction I imagined when I clicked

But whatever that's semantics

I don't get why a non Japanese person performing japense music in Japan would even registered to someone as appropriation.

"black features"


I said in the same post a lack of black features doesn't mean she's not black
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Teddytalks
06/03/17 9:39:56 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
She doesn't look black cause she doesn't have a lot of black features, she looks mixed which is the same thing but not the direction I imagined when I clicked

But whatever that's semantics

I don't get why a non Japanese person performing japense music in Japan would even registered to someone as appropriation.

"black features"


I said in the same post a lack of black features doesn't mean she's not black

This deserve its own topic.
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Terra-enforcer
06/03/17 9:40:53 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
She doesn't look black cause she doesn't have a lot of black features, she looks mixed which is the same thing but not the direction I imagined when I clicked

But whatever that's semantics

I don't get why a non Japanese person performing japense music in Japan would even registered to someone as appropriation.

"black features"


I said in the same post a lack of black features doesn't mean she's not black

That wasn't the problem with your post.
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gamepimp12
06/03/17 9:43:10 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
She doesn't look black cause she doesn't have a lot of black features, she looks mixed which is the same thing but not the direction I imagined when I clicked

But whatever that's semantics

I don't get why a non Japanese person performing japense music in Japan would even registered to someone as appropriation.

"black features"


I said in the same post a lack of black features doesn't mean she's not black

That wasn't the problem with your post.


The what ? Surely you don't mean the idea that it's a set of racial features among a race
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