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How prevalent is this trope in movies these days?
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The original Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead subvert this.

In night Black guy dies last

In Dawn Black guy survives
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Vol2tex posted...

How prevalent is this trope in movies these days?

Movie are too self aware
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but they still do it
even if they are supposed to survive anything ....like the one on the movie xmen first class
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Remember in Scream 2 when the black dude literally left the movie when people started getting killed?

"Brothers don't last long in situations like this"
*Drives away in his van and never shows up again in the movie*
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It use to be the case in most horror movies but they've started changing that for a while now.

Most of the horror movies I see these days(and I watch a lot of them), don't follow that trend.
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Do they even die anymore? I stopped following horror that closely.
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only a black person would get offended by this because some kind of hyper-sensitivity to skin color.
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Bloodychess posted...

Do they even die anymore? I stopped following horror that closely.

Yeah they do, but they tend to be like the 2nd or 3rd death.

I know in the Evil Dead Remake, the Indian(minority) was the first to go in that movie.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

only a black person would get offended by this because some kind of hyper-sensitivity to skin color.

Maybe you're young and therefore, oblivious to how it was a trend to kill off the black people first in horror movies.

Just do a quick google search about it.
I'm sure its been discussed extensively in the past as it was very prevalent back in the day.
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So what's the theory behind this?
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HypnoCoosh posted...

So what's the theory behind this?

that minority(those who are not white) lives are less significant or important than white lives.
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KINDERFELD posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

So what's the theory behind this?

that minority(those who are not white) lives are less significant or important that white lives.

Wow that's quite the conclusion to make from who dies first in movies where everyone dies.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

KINDERFELD posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

So what's the theory behind this?

that minority(those who are not white) lives are less significant or important that white lives.

Wow that's quite the conclusion to make from who dies first in movies where everyone dies.

When the black person is always killed off first a movie, the character is less developed than white counterparts.
Their roles in these movies, over time, become trivialized and this has a huge impact on how we see these people of color in reality.
If you understand psychology, you'll understand that its the conditioning of us to see black people with less worth.
also, given our very putrid history of inequity, you can see why we need to be more mindful of these types of depictions.
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They should be flattered. Bad guys taking out the biggest threat first.
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Some Black people are just too sensitive. They literally think everything is an injustice or inequality to them.

I watch plenty movies where black people make fun of white people for being "white" I just laugh because I'm not insecure about myself and my role in society.

It's just sad.
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marc55 posted...

but they still do it
even if they are supposed to survive anything ....like the one on the movie xmen first class

Why couldn't he adapt anyway? I never understood that.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Some Black people are just too sensitive. They literally think everything is an injustice or inequality to them.

I watch plenty movies where black people make fun of white people for being "white" I just laugh because I'm not insecure about myself and my role in society.

It's just sad.

Learn your history and maybe then you'll learn to see your reality for what it truly is.
But till then, you're just talking about something you really do not understand.
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KINDERFELD posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

Some Black people are just too sensitive. They literally think everything is an injustice or inequality to them.

I watch plenty movies where black people make fun of white people for being "white" I just laugh because I'm not insecure about myself and my role in society.

It's just sad.

Learn your history and maybe then you'll learn to see your reality for what it truly is.
But till then, you're just talking about something you really do not understand.

All hyno keeps spouting is sensitivity and insecurity.

Kinder has given you facts.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

So what's the theory behind this?

The one thing I read is that black actors were rarely leads in movies so they ended up playing side characters, and those are normally killed off at some point
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Some Black people are just too sensitive. They literally think everything is an injustice or inequality to them.

I watch plenty movies where black people make fun of white people for being "white" I just laugh because I'm not insecure about myself and my role in society.

It's just sad.

Some people are just too racist. They literally think that there's nothing racist in movies and that things should be over looked.

I read plenty of posts where racism was blantley pointed out, and they denied it. I just laugh because it crazy to see people thinking that.

It's sad really.
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It's a lot less common now since people are so aware of it, but my god was it common, and not just in horror movies.


The most recent instance that annoyed me was in First Class. Pfft, power to survive anything only one to die other than Shaw..
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Xelltrix posted...

It's a lot less common now since people are so aware of it, but my god was it common, and not just in horror movies.


The most recent instance that annoyed me was in First Class. Pfft, power to survive anything only one to die other than Shaw..

Yeah. As much as I liked First Class that scene and its portrayal of Emma Frost pisses me off to no end.
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Imagine even reading a HypnoCoosh post anymore
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Unless you were a rapper, then you survived (LL in Deep Blue Sea & H20; Ice T in Leprechaun In The Hood; Ice Cube in Ghosts Of Mars, Busta Rhymes in Halloween Resurrection)

In Alien, the black guy was the last to die.
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Sounds like conformation bias on the part of typical race victims. I'd be curious in seeing if there are actual statistics that support this claim.
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Is there any more reason to care who dies in a movie first anymore? Or what?
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In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.
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The Admiral posted...

Sounds like conformation bias on the part of typical race victims. I'd be curious in seeing if there are actual statistics that support this claim.

I mean, it's been around for a while

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackDudeDiesFirst
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His name was also Darwin so that should really give off what his powers were.
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boxington posted...

The Admiral posted...

Sounds like conformation bias on the part of typical race victims. I'd be curious in seeing if there are actual statistics that support this claim.

I mean, it's been around for a while

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackDudeDiesFirst

So have exaggerated claims of racism. That doesn't mean they're actually true.
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infinitydev2020 posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His powers is to literally not be killed by immediately adapting against whatever threat no matter how ridiculous it is.
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Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His powers is to literally not be killed by adapting against whatever threat no matter how ridiculous it is.

Honestly I don't think it went that far, yeah he could harden his skin to survive whatever he could but then you have another mutant who is undoubtedly stronger would kill you, naturally
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SlashmanSG posted...

In Alien, the black guy was the last to die.

Last male you mean. He was the penultimate death
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infinitydev2020 posted...

Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His powers is to literally not be killed by adapting against whatever threat no matter how ridiculous it is.

Honestly I don't think it went that far, yeah he could harden his skin to survive whatever he could but then you have another mutant who is undoubtedly stronger would kill you, naturally

He was once threatened by a god-like being, so his powers responded by making him into a more powerful god-like being.
His whole deal is, no matter how strong someone or something is, he's going to adapt to where they will not kill him.
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Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His powers is to literally not be killed by adapting against whatever threat no matter how ridiculous it is.

Honestly I don't think it went that far, yeah he could harden his skin to survive whatever he could but then you have another mutant who is undoubtedly stronger would kill you, naturally

He was once threatened by a god-like being, so his powers responded by making him into a more powerful god-like being.
His whole deal is, no matter how strong someone or something is, he's going to adapt to where they will not kill him.

I...I don't think that's exactly how his body works...or did work...
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Shaw used Darin's power/energy against him, how is he supposed to adapt to himself?
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infinitydev2020 posted...

Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His powers is to literally not be killed by adapting against whatever threat no matter how ridiculous it is.

Honestly I don't think it went that far, yeah he could harden his skin to survive whatever he could but then you have another mutant who is undoubtedly stronger would kill you, naturally

He was once threatened by a god-like being, so his powers responded by making him into a more powerful god-like being.
His whole deal is, no matter how strong someone or something is, he's going to adapt to where they will not kill him.

I...I don't think that's exactly how his body works...or did work...

In the comics, yeah. Which is why it's hilariously stupid that in the movie, they decided to kill off the dude who's power is to basically not die.
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Kajagogo posted...

SlashmanSG posted...

In Alien, the black guy was the last to die.

Last male you mean. He was the penultimate death

Who died after him? Pretty sure he was the final one.
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Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

Kitt posted...

infinitydev2020 posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

In X Men First class the black guy's power is to not die, and he's the only one that's killed.

I thought his power was to just adapt to his surroundings really quickly, and there was that white guy who got the penny through the head.

His powers is to literally not be killed by adapting against whatever threat no matter how ridiculous it is.

Honestly I don't think it went that far, yeah he could harden his skin to survive whatever he could but then you have another mutant who is undoubtedly stronger would kill you, naturally

He was once threatened by a god-like being, so his powers responded by making him into a more powerful god-like being.
His whole deal is, no matter how strong someone or something is, he's going to adapt to where they will not kill him.

I...I don't think that's exactly how his body works...or did work...

In the comics, yeah. Which is why it's hilariously stupid that in the movie, they decided to kill off the dude who's power is to basically not die.

So like, if he were to fight somebody like a fully powered Franklin Richards and galactus how would that go?
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It's honestly more of an action movie cliche. In horror movies, the black guy frequently dies, but he's seldom the first one to go.

SlashmanSG posted...

Kajagogo posted...

SlashmanSG posted...

In Alien, the black guy was the last to die.

Last male you mean. He was the penultimate death

Who died after him? Pretty sure he was the final one.

Veronica Cartwright
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Why do the virgins always live? There is only 2 movies I can think of where the virgin actually dies.
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Vol2tex posted...

"Black guy dies first"

How prevalent is this trope in movies these days?

It's actually kind of annoying to see at this point because it's now recognized as a trope. So now even audiences who are not black can find it cringey.

i especially roll my eyes when the young huge athletic black dude gets slaughtered in the first half hour of the movie, but the fat sluggish chicken-legged middle aged man of any other race is still alive despite being slower than a sloth. Totally unrealistic. In real circumstances, the physically unfit are almost always the first to die because they can't outrun shit.
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Kajagogo posted...

Shaw used Darin's power/energy against him, how is he supposed to adapt to himself?

No. He used Havoc's energy blast and put it inside Darwin. The movie tries to justify it by stating that he can't adapt from the inside, which is so wrong.

So like, if he were to fight somebody like a fully powered Franklin Richards and galactus how would that go?

Good question. I would love to see how that goes.
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infinitydev2020 posted...

I...I don't think that's exactly how his body works...or did work...

hela has a death touch he became like her ,a death god to survive

and he was in the vacuum of space once
so his body adapted to be able to survive in those conditions

if he jumps into a fire hell become fireproof instanly

thats how his power works in the movie he shouldve adapted to absorb thaty energy and release it

he was shot with a weapon made to destroy the nervous system ....so he evolved into aform without one
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Paper_Okami posted...

In Dawn Black guy survives

I really wish they would have gone with the original ending, though, where he kills himself and then the pregnant lady jumps into the helicopter blades and gets her head blown up, with the helicopter slowly dying after.

Anyway, not too common nowadays, but it does still happen sometimes. If it does happen, it's usually pretty tongue-in-cheek.

At this point I'm not even wondering about the movie But I just can't see his power extending to everything in the marvel universe, there has to be some things that could kill him instantly.
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