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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/14/17 10:32:28 PM
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Been meaning to watch these iconic horror movies.
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Illuminoius
05/14/17 10:33:33 PM
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smellraiser
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DirkDiggles
05/14/17 10:33:49 PM
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Good horror film but it really didn't age very well. Can't wait for the reboot though.
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evil_zombie11
05/14/17 10:34:30 PM
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It's good. The Hellbound Heart book is a good read too, movies are based off of it.
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Raikuro
05/14/17 10:36:05 PM
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I loved it when i watched it and the second one a few years ago, but I really appreciate 80's movies aesthetics.
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Vyrulisse
05/14/17 10:36:28 PM
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Awesome.

DirkDiggles posted...
Good horror film but it really didn't age very well. Can't wait for the reboot though.


What the fuck? Will it have Doug Bradley? If not then it's trash.
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gafemaqs
05/14/17 10:37:14 PM
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Hellraiser movies aren't really good imo. Nothing redeeming about them at all.
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Vyrulisse
05/14/17 10:37:36 PM
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gafemaqs posted...
Hellraiser movies aren't really good imo. Nothing redeeming about them at all.

Pinhead is one of the most iconic and interesting villains in horror so you fail.
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DirkDiggles
05/14/17 10:39:37 PM
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thronedfire2
05/14/17 10:40:19 PM
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I watched it for the first time recently and I thought it was really good
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The Admiral
05/14/17 10:40:37 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Been meaning to watch these iconic horror movies.


Real talk: even though he gets mixed opinions due to his video game reviews, James Rolfe (AVGN) has an amazing database of horror movie reviews from all eras:
http://cinemassacre.com/category/moviereviewsatoz/

Here is one on Hellraiser is you're curious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiB71_-Ww7E

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gafemaqs
05/14/17 10:40:53 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Hellraiser movies aren't really good imo. Nothing redeeming about them at all.

Pinhead is one of the most iconic and interesting villains in horror so you fail.

What's interesting about him
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CoolBeansAvi
05/14/17 10:43:34 PM
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He has pins in his fucking head, that's what
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Vyrulisse
05/14/17 10:44:37 PM
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gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Hellraiser movies aren't really good imo. Nothing redeeming about them at all.

Pinhead is one of the most iconic and interesting villains in horror so you fail.

What's interesting about him

His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.
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TheoryzC
05/14/17 10:46:42 PM
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Pinhead's role in the movie is pretty interesting

And the dudes pretty logical
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gafemaqs
05/14/17 10:50:41 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.

But none of that matters because he's in a movie that's only interested in showing torture porn.

CoolBeansAvi posted...
He has pins in his fucking head, that's what

This is why Trump won.
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Undying
05/14/17 10:51:02 PM
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I still like the series and the first one remains fantastic.
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Vyrulisse
05/14/17 10:51:25 PM
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gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.

But none of that matters because he's in a movie that's only interested in showing torture porn.

CoolBeansAvi posted...
He has pins in his fucking head, that's what

This is why Trump won.


That isn't the point of Pinhead as a character at all. Clearly you don't understand what those movies are about.
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Forlorn_Ass
05/14/17 10:54:07 PM
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What's the plot of the movie? I'm curious about watching it for the first time.
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wah_wah_wah
05/14/17 10:55:08 PM
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Pretty slow burn 80's horror movie, not much happens but there's a sprinkling of creepy imagery. Pinhead (dude on poster) is barely even in it. They really tried to make a serious movie - which is not what they did with its sequels that go more for camp.
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gafemaqs
05/14/17 10:55:52 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.

But none of that matters because he's in a movie that's only interested in showing torture porn.

CoolBeansAvi posted...
He has pins in his fucking head, that's what

This is why Trump won.


That isn't the point of Pinhead as a character at all. Clearly you don't understand what those movies are about.

Though it is the point of the movie he's featured in.
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The Admiral
05/14/17 10:56:10 PM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
What's the plot of the movie? I'm curious about watching it for the first time.


Watch the review in post 11.
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wah_wah_wah
05/14/17 10:57:41 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
What's the plot of the movie? I'm curious about watching it for the first time.


Watch the review in post 11.

Kind of blows the entire plot of the movie TBH
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Vyrulisse
05/14/17 10:58:26 PM
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gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.

But none of that matters because he's in a movie that's only interested in showing torture porn.

CoolBeansAvi posted...
He has pins in his fucking head, that's what

This is why Trump won.


That isn't the point of Pinhead as a character at all. Clearly you don't understand what those movies are about.

Though it is the point of the movie he's featured in.

Not necessarily. It's about comeuppance and paying your debts whether known or unknown.

Spoilers for the first movie: In a sense, Pinhead can be seen as a "good guy" in the first film because of events that occurred in the past.
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Skye Reynolds
05/14/17 10:59:12 PM
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Hellraiser 1 is great.
Hellraiser 2 is the same film all over again.

The sequels go downhill from there or so I'm told. I personally liked the third film better than the second one, but I'm apparently in the minority on that one.
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kuwab0
05/14/17 11:17:14 PM
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garan
05/14/17 11:17:18 PM
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The first 2 are really great. The rest of the series is wildly uneven, a couple of them weren't even originally Hellraiser, but executives decided to throw Pinhead in.

The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series. I watched all 8 of them a couple of years ago around Halloween, I could rate the whole series if you want.
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Gamer99z
05/14/17 11:18:23 PM
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garan posted...
The first 2 are really great. The rest of the series is wildly uneven, a couple of them weren't even originally Hellraiser, but executives decided to throw Pinhead in.

The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series. I watched all 8 of them a couple of years ago around Halloween, I could rate the whole series if you want.

Pretty much this. The first two are classics, the rest are just kinda eh.
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wah_wah_wah
05/14/17 11:18:30 PM
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garan posted...
The first 2 are really great. The rest of the series is wildly uneven, a couple of them weren't even originally Hellraiser, but executives decided to throw Pinhead in.

The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series. I watched all 8 of them a couple of years ago around Halloween, I could rate the whole series if you want.

do so
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Vyrulisse
05/14/17 11:25:07 PM
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garan posted...
The first 2 are really great. The rest of the series is wildly uneven, a couple of them weren't even originally Hellraiser, but executives decided to throw Pinhead in.

The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series. I watched all 8 of them a couple of years ago around Halloween, I could rate the whole series if you want.

Any Hellraiser without Doug Bradley (the rights grabs) are not considered in any discussion regarding the movies. They are horrid.
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TheLazyChampion
05/14/17 11:28:02 PM
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garan posted...
The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series.


"Hello,my friends. I want to put on record that the flic (sic) out there using the word Hellraiser IS NO FUCKIN' CHILD OF MINE! I have NOTHING to do with the fuckin' thing. If they claim it's from the mind of Clive Barker,it's a lie. It's not even from my butt-hole."

Twitter Posts

By Clive Barker, 21 August 2011
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MTRodaba2468
05/14/17 11:48:53 PM
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gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.

But none of that matters because he's in a movie that's only interested in showing torture porn.

CoolBeansAvi posted...
He has pins in his fucking head, that's what

This is why Trump won.


That isn't the point of Pinhead as a character at all. Clearly you don't understand what those movies are about.

Though it is the point of the movie he's featured in.

You really haven't seen Hellraiser, have you?
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butthole666
05/14/17 11:56:47 PM
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Awesome concept, shit film.
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gafemaqs
05/15/17 12:48:45 AM
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MTRodaba2468 posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
His look, the way he speaks, his intelligence and willingness to engage his victims and sometimes makes deals. He's not a mindless murderer... he's different. He even has a fairness about him in a sense.

But none of that matters because he's in a movie that's only interested in showing torture porn.

CoolBeansAvi posted...
He has pins in his fucking head, that's what

This is why Trump won.


That isn't the point of Pinhead as a character at all. Clearly you don't understand what those movies are about.

Though it is the point of the movie he's featured in.

You really haven't seen Hellraiser, have you?

I just gave a spot-on synopsis
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/15/17 11:08:11 AM
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I really liked the movie. No wonder it's a classic. Brutal (hammer kill. Disturbing imagery (I feel like throwing up just thinking about it). Cenobites were interesting. But what ever happened to the fat one with glasses? The house fell on it, but Kirsty never sent it back to hell. Also, how tf did Frank put on his brother's skin like that? Does he have powers?.
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TheoryzC
05/15/17 1:07:39 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
I really liked the movie. No wonder it's a classic. Brutal (hammer kill. Disturbing imagery (I feel like throwing up just thinking about it). Cenobites were interesting. But what ever happened to the fat one with glasses? The house fell on it, but Kirsty never sent it back to hell. Also, how tf did Frank put on his brother's skin like that? Does he have powers?.

Probably some supernatural shit lol
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/15/17 2:01:38 PM
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I just have to say I'd much rather go up against Freddy Kruger than Pinhead. By far. Faaaaar.
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SicSlayer
05/15/17 2:07:03 PM
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Thought the first was boring. Never bothered with the rest. Like someone else said it was a super slow burn and Pinhead was barely in it. I don't see the fascination with it.
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MorbidFaithless
05/15/17 2:16:45 PM
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I've only seen the first one. Thought it was pretty good. Didn't like how Pinhead renegged on his and Kirsty's deal though. Went after her anyway. Smh.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/15/17 3:25:13 PM
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Yeah, I thought Pinhead would be a bit more merciful. I don't know why though. I guess dude is straight up evil and is from hell so...
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MorbidFaithless
05/15/17 4:49:06 PM
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I don't expect him to be merciful. If she opened the box again he should definitely go after her. But he just flat out broke their agreement. If i remember correctly...
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/15/17 4:52:52 PM
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Well, to be fair he specifically emphasized he MIGHT spare her.
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garan
05/15/17 5:56:15 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
garan posted...
The first 2 are really great. The rest of the series is wildly uneven, a couple of them weren't even originally Hellraiser, but executives decided to throw Pinhead in.

The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series. I watched all 8 of them a couple of years ago around Halloween, I could rate the whole series if you want.

do so


Two is great, I liked it even more than the original. The rest are a very mixed bag, some good parts here & there but mostly not worth it.

3 is decent but uneven.
4 has an interesting concept and the first part is pretty cool but most of it sucks.
5 is absolutely terrible.
6 is pretty good-- Dean Winters is great.
7 is cheesy but kinda enjoyable.
8 is even more cheesy but I love Lance Henriksen and it was just ridiculous enough to be kinda fun.
9 & beyond don't count at all as they are only made to keep the rights to the franchise.
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FF_Relapse
05/15/17 5:57:47 PM
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TheoryzC
05/15/17 6:22:33 PM
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garan posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
garan posted...
The first 2 are really great. The rest of the series is wildly uneven, a couple of them weren't even originally Hellraiser, but executives decided to throw Pinhead in.

The 9th movie drops that pretense & was made just so the studio could keep the rights to the series. I watched all 8 of them a couple of years ago around Halloween, I could rate the whole series if you want.

do so


Two is great, I liked it even more than the original. The rest are a very mixed bag, some good parts here & there but mostly not worth it.

3 is decent but uneven.
4 has an interesting concept and the first part is pretty cool but most of it sucks.
5 is absolutely terrible.
6 is pretty good-- Dean Winters is great.
7 is cheesy but kinda enjoyable.
8 is even more cheesy but I love Lance Henriksen and it was just ridiculous enough to be kinda fun.
9 & beyond don't count at all as they are only made to keep the rights to the franchise.

I read somewhere that the original scripts for every movie after 4 were totally unrelated to Pinhead and the Cenobites until the were tweaked to insert those characters
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Skye Reynolds
05/15/17 7:40:23 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
I've only seen the first one. Thought it was pretty good. Didn't like how Pinhead renegged on his and Kirsty's deal though. Went after her anyway. Smh.


Demons are well known for their honesty.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Yeah, I thought Pinhead would be a bit more merciful. I don't know why though. I guess dude is straight up evil and is from hell so...


I loved the dynamic between Pinhead and the female cenobite. He's wiser whereas she's more intense in her desire for suffering.

She was so intent on seeing Kirsty suffer that she didn't care whether they got Frank or not. Meanwhile, Pinhead was willing to make a deal if it meant recapturing both. Even at the end, the female cenobite was the first to try and corner Kirsty.
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GOOMFalse
05/15/17 8:00:43 PM
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Phenomenal movie

Actually excited for a reboot. I have a feeling I'm going to be massively disappointed
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Axiom
05/15/17 8:09:59 PM
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GOOMFalse posted...
Phenomenal movie

Actually excited for a reboot. I have a feeling I'm going to be massively disappointed

If they don't make them creatures that seek out the most intense pleasure through pain instead of regular evil demons like in the later ones then it's an automatic fail to me
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wolverinev2
05/15/17 8:33:09 PM
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Clive Barker pretty much out the latest one on blast though. Saying he wants nothing to do with it.
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Skye Reynolds
05/15/17 8:42:43 PM
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I thought Clive Barker was dead.

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