Current Events > Do you believe Russia was behind the Trump election?

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What do you think the story is here? Do you believe Russia was behind this election or is it just a new scare?
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No. It's a ridiculous notion.
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It's pretty telling that so many Democrats/Leftists think they were entitled to win the election and that Russian hacking is the reason they lost.

Not like that attitude would have pushed people to vote against them out of spite or anything.

Only in America are people less concerned with unprecedented systematic corruption in a political party than they are with who told on them
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...

Only in America are people less concerned with unprecedented systematic corruption in a political party than they are with who told on them

That's the same argument I gave when it was happening, the typical response I got was "Yeah, but the Republicans are probably worse!"
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They influenced it, but it's not like they rigged voting machines or anything like that.
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They probably influenced it less than the United States influences other elections
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Vertania posted...

It's pretty telling that so many Democrats/Leftists think they were entitled to win the election and that Russian hacking is the reason they lost.

Not like that attitude would have pushed people to vote against them out of spite or anything.

It's not that the hacking directly led to trump being elected, but that trump received financing and possibly other forms of support from Russia. That's unprecedented levels of corruption and likely treason, if it's true.

Balkov posted...

Vertania posted...

It's pretty telling that so many Democrats/Leftists think they were entitled to win the election and that Russian hacking is the reason they lost.

Not like that attitude would have pushed people to vote against them out of spite or anything.

It's not that the hacking directly led to trump being elected, but that trump received financing and possibly other forms of support from Russia. That's unprecedented levels of corruption and likely treason, if it's true.

Even politifact states that Hillary received millions of dollars in finance from foreign countries.

"several countries with harsh rules for women and that kill gays have contributed to the Clinton Foundation both before and after her tenure at the State Department."

http://www.politifact.com/arizona/statements/2016/jul/11/donald-trump/did-hillary-clinton-take-money-countries-treat-wom/

Glass houses, stones, and such.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

They influenced it, but it's not like they rigged voting machines or anything like that.

This. At the very least they tried, but this isn't the first time the
and China constantly interfer. As far as actually rigging the election there is zero evidence for that. Just as much evidence that Saudi Arabia tried to rig it. Or anyone...
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Do you mean directly affected the election by hacking? No. Financially backing Trump? That's what we're waiting for. So maybe kind of?
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If Russia rigged the election, then how the hell did Hillary still get 3 million more votes?
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I was going to vote for Hillary, but the Russians changed my mind.

No. It just proves that Hillary Clinton is unfit for any government position that she lost despite having both a huge money advantage and the "unbias" media fawing over her that she lost due to the email leaks.
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PoopPotato posted...

If Russia rigged the election, then how the hell did Hillary still get 3 million more votes?

If you look at it this way...
If you only need to win a specific set of states to become the president, why waste time and money on states that you dont need to win?
And the word rigged is too strong, I dont think that Putin sent agents that rigged the voting machines, I think that influencing is a better word.
Spreading information... I mean propaganda on social media and financially backing a specific candidate can go a long way.
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Foppe posted...

Spreading information... I mean propaganda on social media

Releasing e-mails that the DNC sent between themselves = propaganda?

Vertania posted...

Foppe posted...

Spreading information... I mean propaganda on social media

Releasing e-mails that the DNC sent between themselves = propaganda?

Hiring paid trolls to spread false information = propaganda
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Yes, but they're not he ones we should be worried about. The Reptilians are the ones who are really pulling the strings behind the scenes

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Vertania posted...

Foppe posted...

Spreading information... I mean propaganda on social media

Releasing e-mails that the DNC sent between themselves = propaganda?

Hiring paid trolls to spread false information = propaganda

Hillary and "Correct the Record" literally colonized r/politics during the election. A major place where people get political news was 100% Democratic jock sniffing and 100% Republican demonizing. It's always been a bit left leaning but nothing like what was happening during the election. It was truly something to behold. Hillary also literally hired a staff of "memers" to post about her online in various places.

So yeah, it's not like both sides didn't do the same shit. One side just did it better.
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i like how people here seem to think that if you think russia influenced the election, it automatically means you supported hillary or that somehow bringing her up is relevant
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