Board 8 > How many Wolves could Board 8 take by themselves?

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Corrik
05/07/17 8:53:23 AM
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Board 8 is on a field trip. They encounter starving, ravenous wolves. How many could Board 8 take with at least one member of their group surviving the encounter?

Scenario: Board 8 is considered the number of posters who you think made 50 posts or 10 topics in a calendar year from this date on Board 8.

Board 8 is wearing whatever they normally would casually wear on a typical 65 degree day. Minus all accessories. No belts, glasses, piercing accessories, phones, weapons, etc.

Both sides are immediately aware that this is a fight to the death and do not entertain any notions of flight. Neither side is caught by surprise.

The terrain is an open field with no environment capable of tricks to be performed for advantage.

Both sides start on an opposite end of the field where they catch sight of one another.

The wolves will fight til the last human is dead and not stop to eat during the fight.

No medical assistance is coming. Thus any survivor must be able to live the exchange without eventually bleeding out.


The number of wolves in the scenario is the number of wolves you believe Board 8 could defeat with having at least one survivor.

So, if you feel Board 8 could take 2 wolves. Then thete was 2 wolves. If 1,000 then a 1,000. Etc.
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Unbridled9
05/07/17 9:06:01 AM
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On an open field with the wolves having no element of surprise? The average B8 poster could probably take 1.1 to 1.2 wolves. Wolves are very deadly pack predators that rely on ambush. However this is about how many wolves can be taken and the wolves are handicapped since they lack the advantage of ambush and we know it's a fight to the death and won't flee. Wolves are powerful but their only really 'deadly' bit is their mouths and they can't utilize their paws for much else. Humans have a size advantage and three possible weapons (two arms and mouth) compared to the wolves one, and we can grapple while wolves can't.

I doubt B8 would walk away without some heavy losses. I would also say B8 is more likely to survive assuming even numbers as the wolves have lost their two biggest edges (opponents willing to flee and surprise).

Now, if we changed it so that the wolves could ambush the B8 posters and were aware of the B8 posters but not the other way around as well as fleeing in a panic being a thing, then you could probably go as far as giving the B8 posters weapons and the wolves would win as your flabby and inexperienced gaming ass is likely gonna panic and get separated before getting a faceful of wolf while 95% of the board cries out for mommy or runs in terror and that small percentage that isn't scared and/or has hunting experience is hopelessly outnumbered.
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tyder21
05/07/17 9:07:45 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
average B8 poster could probably take 1.1 to 1.2 wolves

More like 0.1 to 0.2.
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Colegreen_c12
05/07/17 9:09:04 AM
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tyder21 posted...
Unbridled9 posted...
average B8 poster could probably take 1.1 to 1.2 wolves

More like 0.1 to 0.2.

If that
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Unbridled9
05/07/17 9:14:59 AM
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Colegreen_c12 posted...
tyder21 posted...
Unbridled9 posted...
average B8 poster could probably take 1.1 to 1.2 wolves

More like 0.1 to 0.2.

If that


Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. It can literally turn dentists into Rambo's. More to the point, however, is that a 0.1 to 0.2 rating WOULD be right under normal circumstances (read what I wrote), but the two greatest factors to make it that number got removed (the wolves can't ambush/use terrain and the human's are gonna fight to the death instead of flee in a panic). As a result the human's greater size and ability to use arms in addition to biting would likely give them the edge.

In reality the wolves would have a big edge, but the set-up removed pretty much everything that would give them that edge.

Edit: Also, clothes is a huge edge. Stuff like denim or loose-fitting stuff would probably give the wolves hell as they'd have to get through that first. Sure, your hot-pants aren't gonna do much to stop them, but that guy who is wearing a thick hoodie and denim pants? He's got a big edge.
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Corrik
05/07/17 9:17:27 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
On an open field with the wolves having no element of surprise? The average B8 poster could probably take 1.1 to 1.2 wolves. Wolves are very deadly pack predators that rely on ambush. However this is about how many wolves can be taken and the wolves are handicapped since they lack the advantage of ambush and we know it's a fight to the death and won't flee. Wolves are powerful but their only really 'deadly' bit is their mouths and they can't utilize their paws for much else. Humans have a size advantage and three possible weapons (two arms and mouth) compared to the wolves one, and we can grapple while wolves can't.

I doubt B8 would walk away without some heavy losses. I would also say B8 is more likely to survive assuming even numbers as the wolves have lost their two biggest edges (opponents willing to flee and surprise).

Now, if we changed it so that the wolves could ambush the B8 posters and were aware of the B8 posters but not the other way around as well as fleeing in a panic being a thing, then you could probably go as far as giving the B8 posters weapons and the wolves would win as your flabby and inexperienced gaming ass is likely gonna panic and get separated before getting a faceful of wolf while 95% of the board cries out for mommy or runs in terror and that small percentage that isn't scared and/or has hunting experience is hopelessly outnumbered.

I would think more than a few board 8 posters would go fetal or freeze in fear at the situation. Just because they know it is a fight to the deatj and will not flee does not mean fear is not a valid emotion.


On the other hand, knowing it is a fight to the death should pump adrenalin through many posters as well.
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Colegreen_c12
05/07/17 9:19:22 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Colegreen_c12 posted...
tyder21 posted...
Unbridled9 posted...
average B8 poster could probably take 1.1 to 1.2 wolves

More like 0.1 to 0.2.

If that


Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. It can literally turn dentists into Rambo's. More to the point, however, is that a 0.1 to 0.2 rating WOULD be right under normal circumstances (read what I wrote), but the two greatest factors to make it that number got removed (the wolves can't ambush/use terrain and the human's are gonna fight to the death instead of flee in a panic). As a result the human's greater size and ability to use arms in addition to biting would likely give them the edge.

In reality the wolves would have a big edge, but the set-up removed pretty much everything that would give them that edge.


Let me ask you, how the hell do you think a b8er kills a wolf before a wolf kills a b8er.

Wolfs go in packs and will have better tactics while most b8ers will panic. Wolfs have an easy way to kill people they are accustomed to using, b8ers can sit on them I guess?

Like if you think an average b8er is taking out a wolf 1v1 you are insane. And theres no way in hell a wolf pack isn't going to have better tactics than panicking humans
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Unbridled9
05/07/17 9:22:02 AM
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I would think more than a few board 8 posters would go fetal or freeze in fear at the situation. Just because they know it is a fight to the deatj and will not flee does not mean fear is not a valid emotion.


On the other hand, knowing it is a fight to the death should pump adrenalin through many posters as well.


The vast majority of people, even if terrified as hell, would sooner fight than be mauled to death no matter how ineffectual; especially if fleeing isn't an option. Like I said, the set-up really favors the humans as wolf-tactics can't be employed. It's like having a herding dog actually have to throw down with the cows he's herding. Due to the way cows think and act the dog can keep them under control normally, but make it a fight to the death? He might be a predator but the cows have some serious edges.
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Corrik
05/07/17 9:22:22 AM
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In before Board 8ers come in here saying they casually wear steel toed boots.

That said, the board 8 posters could massively outnumber the wolves if your number so deems it. Thus, the wolves might not get the advantage of fair 1v1s lol.
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Colegreen_c12
05/07/17 9:23:46 AM
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Corrik posted...
In before Board 8ers come in here saying they casually wear steel toed boots.

That said, the board 8 posters could massively outnumber the wolves if your number so deems it. Thus, the wolves might not get the advantage of fair 1v1s lol.

yes, but theres no way in hell 80 b8ers are beating 90 wolfs.

I would probably guess 80 b8ers could beat 8 wolfs
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Corrik
05/07/17 9:24:59 AM
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For example, if you feel there are 478 board 8ers and you feel they could take 32 wolves, then you are talking like a 15:1 man advantavw in the fight.
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Aecioo
05/07/17 9:25:15 AM
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there are multiple b8ers who can't even raise their arms above their head without getting winded

the number is half

half of as many b8ers are participating. so 1000 of us, it would only take 500 wolves.

maybe even less
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Unbridled9
05/07/17 9:34:32 AM
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Let me ask you, how the hell do you think a b8er kills a wolf before a wolf kills a b8er.

Wolfs go in packs and will have better tactics while most b8ers will panic. Wolfs have an easy way to kill people they are accustomed to using, b8ers can sit on them I guess?

Like if you think an average b8er is taking out a wolf 1v1 you are insane. And theres no way in hell a wolf pack isn't going to have better tactics than panicking humans


Same way people have killed things while unarmed since the dawn of time. Punches, strangulation, and other such things. Humans also have a massive weight advantage over the wolves. A grey wolf male comes in at about 43-45 KG while, by comparison, an average human from NA or Europe clocks in at 75 KG average (factoring in both sexes). The humans could viably pin the wolves simply by lying on-top of them.

Like I said, the wolves would have an advantage in ACTUAL fighting because their biggest edges, surprise, the ability to make targets flee, and so-forth would be present. But in a flat battlefield in a fight to the death with even numbers and prior awareness so much of the wolves advantages get hampered while the basic human stuff that you normally wouldn't consider (like durable pants) suddenly becomes a big edge. That hoodie? Normally you wouldn't even consider it, but suddenly it's basically an impromptu multiple extra layers of protective skin protecting your neck from a vicious wolf.

In a normal fight? Wolves entirely. In this fight where the wolves are neutered? The humans got the edge.
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Corrik
05/07/17 10:00:42 AM
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I wonder if wolves have more muscle on them in comparison despite the weight gap.
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Unbridled9
05/07/17 10:10:32 AM
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Corrik posted...
I wonder if wolves have more muscle on them in comparison despite the weight gap.


They probably do. However, weight is weight is weight. If you want to pin someone it almost doesn't matter where it comes from and the fact is that someone who weighs 300 pounds is simply going to be able to hold their own in a fight better than someone of 180 and similar athletic ability. In this case the humans would weigh almost double, if not more, of the wolves and having the extra advantage of arms and grip would be able to easily pin the wolves opening up the wolves full body to attack while the wolf would be stuck trying to bite the human (which would be a lot harder since the human can easily keep the wolf's muzzle shut).

Having dealt with some very poorly trained and massive dogs (I would guess 90-100 lbs based on how much that ****er hurt when he jumped on me) I can say that the weight thing is a huge advantage even if you aren't a trained fighter. Simply put, you can weather impacts a lot better and win in wrestle/grapple as well as go for stuff like pins. I'll grant that a poorly trained sheep dog whose owner believes her special little boy is just fine and you're the evil one when you just want to be able to sleep on the sofa without being ambushed in the middle of the night is different from a vicious wolf, but the focus here is on the impact of weight. It matters. Especially against dogs whose claws aren't sharpened like a feline's and who are not as agile.
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trdl23
05/07/17 10:17:48 AM
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Lol at thinking any random B8er -- outside of the health topic we aren't known for our physical prowess -- can actually take a wolf.

I'd say a 5:1 ratio is even being generous. But going with that, I'd say 50 wolves (I think ~250 is about right for the number of active posters here).
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ChaosTonyV4
05/07/17 10:20:26 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
They probably do. However, weight is weight is weight. If you want to pin someone it almost doesn't matter where it comes from and the fact is that someone who weighs 300 pounds is simply going to be able to hold their own in a fight better than someone of 180 and similar athletic ability. In this case the humans would weigh almost double, if not more, of the wolves and having the extra advantage of arms and grip would be able to easily pin the wolves opening up the wolves full body to attack while the wolf would be stuck trying to bite the human (which would be a lot harder since the human can easily keep the wolf's muzzle shut).


Amazing.
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GranzonEx
05/07/17 10:34:36 AM
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The wolves would be too busy devouring thjp so we just kill them while they're distracted
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Punnyz
05/07/17 10:34:44 AM
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trdl23
05/07/17 10:42:16 AM
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Punnyz posted...
didn't we already have this topic

That was about 1v1ing a wolf, this is the entire board.
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MariaTaylor
05/07/17 11:22:33 AM
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i would cast magic missile on the wolves
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VeryInsane
05/07/17 11:24:10 AM
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Why would we do that

Are wolves your raccoon, Corrik?
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Corrik
05/07/17 11:37:52 AM
#23:


GranzonEx posted...
The wolves would be too busy devouring thjp so we just kill them while they're distracted

They do not stop to eat. Addressed in OP
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Shaduln
05/07/17 11:48:40 AM
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mnkboy907
05/07/17 1:03:39 PM
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Corrik posted...
GranzonEx posted...
The wolves would be too busy devouring thjp so we just kill them while they're distracted

They do not stop to eat. Addressed in OP

They can't help it. The wolves will open their mouths for an attack and chunks of thejp will just be there.
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Corrik
05/07/17 2:16:27 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
Corrik posted...
GranzonEx posted...
The wolves would be too busy devouring thjp so we just kill them while they're distracted

They do not stop to eat. Addressed in OP

They can't help it. The wolves will open their mouths for an attack and chunks of thejp will just be there.

Yeahhhh... no
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