Current Events > FBI study -- Liberal anti-cop narrative has caused "de-policing"

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The Admiral
05/05/17 2:55:24 PM
#103:


meingott posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
I'm evidence the police treat white people like shit too.


lmao


Seriously. Xsquader, if anything, is evidence of how much shit the cops have to put up with and how incredibly patient and professional most of them remain even in light of insane and violent citizenry.
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hockeybub89
05/05/17 2:55:50 PM
#104:


Nothing will make people like cops more like abandoning their job because they aren't liked enough
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The Catgirl Fondler
05/05/17 2:56:35 PM
#105:


Tch, I knew better than to trust cops for years, "liberal fear-mongering" had nothing to do with it. Bad apples been spoiling the bushel since forever.
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Anteaterking
05/05/17 2:57:14 PM
#106:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Ammonitida posted...
There will always be bad apples in any profession. The media is hyping up these exceptions as if they are the norm.


If there's bad apples at my job, the worst thing that happens is that people leave the store dissatisfied.


If there's bad apples in the police force, the worst thing that happens is that somebody gets shot and killed.


And in addition, if there's a bad apple who does my same job three states over, I don't kneejerk defend them.
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Nomadic View
05/05/17 2:59:28 PM
#107:


The Admiral posted...
meingott posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
I'm evidence the police treat white people like shit too.


lmao


Seriously. Xsquader, if anything, is evidence of how much shit the cops have to put up with and how incredibly patient and professional most of them remain even in light of insane and violent citizenry.


This. Law enforcement has to put up with the worst of the worst of society. The officers that handled Dawkinsnumber4's situation displayed incredible professionalism and patience.
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hockeybub89
05/05/17 2:59:29 PM
#108:


The Admiral posted...
meingott posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
I'm evidence the police treat white people like shit too.


lmao


Seriously. Xsquader, if anything, is evidence of how much shit the cops have to put up with and how incredibly patient and professional most of them remain even in light of insane and violent citizenry.

And fuck any cop that breaks that professionalism for any reason. It is their job to deal with the worst of us and protect the rest of us. Don't take a job you can't handle. They have to deal with bad people and we have to hold them to a higher standard. There is no other way it can work.
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Kirby
05/05/17 3:00:20 PM
#109:


The Catgirl Fondler posted...
Tch, I knew better than to trust cops for years, "liberal fear-mongering" had nothing to do with it. Bad apples been spoiling the bushel since forever.


You could say the same exact thing for Muslim terrorists, black gangsters, white trash killers etc...
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Keith_Valentine
05/05/17 3:05:01 PM
#110:


Kineth posted...
Oh boy, and here we go to black on black violence. Nevermind the non criminal blacks, though. Nevermind a country with a history of enslaving black people and restricting their right to vote. Nevermind that poverty is most closely linked to crime as opposed to race. Nevermind not wanting to fund communities such as these. Nevermind the fuckton of studies (like all the ones linked here: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias) that show clear bias in the justice system. Nevermind all that. It's about black on black violence.

Moronic.

And what's more sickening is implying all cops are white and tying race to policing and crime.


What a crock of shit. What is wrong with you? People like this are what is wrong with race relations. The self loathing, holier than though cuck.
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Kineth
05/05/17 3:07:40 PM
#111:


The Admiral posted...
Kineth posted...
And what's more sickening is implying all cops are white and tying race to policing and crime.


BLM does this when somehow police brutality always ends up being about racism and white supremacy, even when the cops are black.


Ah, so y'all weren't doing it in this topic, huh? Bullshit.
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Kineth
05/05/17 3:08:25 PM
#112:


Keith_Valentine posted...
Kineth posted...
Oh boy, and here we go to black on black violence. Nevermind the non criminal blacks, though. Nevermind a country with a history of enslaving black people and restricting their right to vote. Nevermind that poverty is most closely linked to crime as opposed to race. Nevermind not wanting to fund communities such as these. Nevermind the fuckton of studies (like all the ones linked here: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias) that show clear bias in the justice system. Nevermind all that. It's about black on black violence.

Moronic.

And what's more sickening is implying all cops are white and tying race to policing and crime.


What a crock of shit. What is wrong with you? People like this are what is wrong with race relations. The self loathing, holier than though cuck.


Elaborate or sit down.
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The Catgirl Fondler
05/05/17 3:29:42 PM
#113:


Kirby posted...
The Catgirl Fondler posted...
Tch, I knew better than to trust cops for years, "liberal fear-mongering" had nothing to do with it. Bad apples been spoiling the bushel since forever.


You could say the same exact thing for Muslim terrorists, black gangsters, white trash killers etc...


Indeed you could, and sure enough, I remain weary around most people because you never know which ones are going to flip the fuck out and blow up in your face (verbally or literally).

Cops by comparison are pretty easy to predict, and its always bad news, so I avoid them whenever I can.
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garan
05/05/17 3:59:52 PM
#114:


The Admiral posted...
So unsubstantiated liberal rhetoric and ignorant fearmongering backfires and has the opposite intended effect? Color me shocked! I'd almost be surprised if almost every other liberal movement didn't end up the same way.


I've been saying for months that the media must want to start race riots for ratings or more nefarious purposes at this point. Whites are killed by cops all the time & never make the national news. But a black criminal punches a cop & tries to grab the cop's gun and all of a sudden, all cops are racists that just want to kill blacks.

Let's ignore all facts showing that narrative is total bullshit by the way. Like studies showing white cops are less likely to shoot blacks.
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megATOMOS
05/05/17 4:15:11 PM
#115:


Maybe the Police should stop beating and killing so many civilians and then people won't have to protest. They're the root cause of this even though conservatives don't like to admit it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4470500/Shocking-video-shows-cop-choke-TASER-student.html
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SpiralDrift
05/05/17 4:17:29 PM
#116:


The Fruitvale BART police shooting is a good example of this. Before that happened you'd regularly see police walking through the train cars, and although it made people nervous it made the system a safer place. After the shooting they reduced the police presence at most stations to almost nothing and things have gone really downhill since then.

Recently there was a flash mob attack where a group of 30+ teens hopped the station gates and started attacking and robbing random people. A few people were seriously injured. It was mentioned in brief in the local news but didn't get any national attention. This happened just one stop away from Fruitvale. There are a lot of other examples of the damage done by the reduced police presence, more violent crimes and robberies, etc. People also regularly smoke on the platforms now, both tobacco and weed, sometimes even on the trains. Commuters get visibly anxious passing those stations now. Again, the attack got minimal coverage in the news.

In the end both sides lose. The police were wrong for shooting Oscar Grant but the community loses out by the reduced police presence.
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cjsdowg
05/05/17 4:56:42 PM
#117:


Ammonitida posted...


That's from an FBI study. Learn to read.

Micah Johnson was influenced by BLM and their belief that white cops were murdering black men for breathing while black. That's a fact.


30 mins West of Dallas a Mother was arrested and thrown to ground and the son was allowed to be choked .

20 East of Dallas a cop killed a 15 year old, lied about what happen and is still walking around free.

Do you think things like that make people bad or the BLM talking about it.
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cjsdowg
05/05/17 4:57:59 PM
#118:


SpiralDrift posted...

In the end both sides lose. The police were wrong for shooting Oscar Grant but the community loses out by the reduced police presence.


So it is to fucking hard to ask them not to murder black people. Any other job that does these people would get on their case.
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I4NRulez
05/05/17 5:06:04 PM
#119:


Ammonitida posted...
He was influenced by BLM and their ignorant rhetoric of hate. His massacre was in retaliation to Alton Sterling's death who was justifiably shot and killed by a Baton Rouge police officer. This case was hyped up by BLM as a "hate crime" and part of the "genocidal" war on black men. Keep pretending that BLM did not influence his actions.


He was a fucking scum bag that murdered innocent cops but he wasnt in BLM
"Don't affiliate me with nothing. ... I'm affiliated with the spirit of justice."

thats literally a quote from him. Because a black person is upset with police violence doesnt mean they are BLM.
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I4NRulez
05/05/17 5:07:23 PM
#120:


SpiralDrift posted...
In the end both sides lose. The police were wrong for shooting Oscar Grant but the community loses out by the reduced police presence.


"Hey, let us shoot first ask questions later or else we're removing our police officers from the neighborhood"
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SpiralDrift
05/05/17 5:10:17 PM
#121:


I4NRulez posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
In the end both sides lose. The police were wrong for shooting Oscar Grant but the community loses out by the reduced police presence.


"Hey, let us shoot first ask questions later or else we're removing our police officers from the neighborhood"

No, it was more that the community wanted the reduced presence because they didn't feel safe with the police there. Understandable, but again it's like both sides lose.
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The Admiral
05/05/17 5:38:11 PM
#122:


I4NRulez posted...
Because a black person is upset with police violence doesnt mean they are BLM.


BLM is not an formal organization that issues membership cards to people. It's a loosely organized social movement based on the idea that black people are uniquely mistreated by police. This guy absolutely shared the same values and ideas and BLM. The only difference is that the groups organizing together weren't as violent as he wanted them to be. But to think this guy wasn't influenced by BLM or completely in agreement with their cause is delusional.
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cjsdowg
05/05/17 5:57:14 PM
#123:


The Admiral posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Because a black person is upset with police violence doesnt mean they are BLM.


BLM is not an formal organization that issues membership cards to people. It's a loosely organized social movement based on the idea that black people are uniquely mistreated by police. This guy absolutely shared the same values and ideas and BLM. The only difference is that the groups organizing together weren't as violent as he wanted them to be. But to think this guy wasn't influenced by BLM or completely in agreement with their cause is delusional.


Do you think before BLM people didn't think that police mistreated black people ?
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The Admiral
05/05/17 6:01:51 PM
#124:


cjsdowg posted...
Do you think before BLM people didn't think that police mistreated black people ?


Of course people thought that, something we learned during the LA riots. However, BLM is about exaggerating a narrative that it's "open season" on black people and that cops are systematically oppressing and murdering blacks without repercussion. This is complete horseshit, and all it does it confirm victim complexes (in people like you) and push people who feel like their lives are in danger into committing violence (like the Dallas sniper).

BLM exaggerates every national police killing to fit their narrative, regardless of how dishonest that is. That gives people who aren't that bright the notion that the problem is far worse than it is, and that helps no one. In fact, as we see from the massive increase in murders in the OP, it does the exact opposite.
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I4NRulez
05/05/17 6:08:33 PM
#125:


The Admiral posted...
BLM is not an formal organization that issues membership cards to people. It's a loosely organized social movement based on the idea that black people are uniquely mistreated by police. This guy absolutely shared the same values and ideas and BLM. The only difference is that the groups organizing together weren't as violent as he wanted them to be. But to think this guy wasn't influenced by BLM or completely in agreement with their cause is delusional.


Well, you share the bell curve theory which a lot of people associate with racism, should i assume that you're a white supremacist?
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FrankIin
05/05/17 6:12:02 PM
#126:


Doom_Art posted...
I mean, I'll never approve of violence against law enforcement, but this is maybe an unfortunate side effect of people using their positions of power to swing their dick around?


> Claims to not condone violence against law enforcement.
> Tries to work his way to justifying the actions of people that are violent against law enforcement.
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ASithLord7
05/05/17 6:12:08 PM
#127:


The Admiral posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Because a black person is upset with police violence doesnt mean they are BLM.


BLM is not an formal organization that issues membership cards to people. It's a loosely organized social movement based on the idea that black people are uniquely mistreated by police. This guy absolutely shared the same values and ideas and BLM. The only difference is that the groups organizing together weren't as violent as he wanted them to be. But to think this guy wasn't influenced by BLM or completely in agreement with their cause is delusional.

Funny then how frequently you try to paint BLM as exactly as formal organization with membership cards.

Also remember the time you blamed BLM for cop-killings that were done by a white Trump supporter? Lol whoops.
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AcFan87
05/05/17 6:51:08 PM
#128:


The Admiral posted...
AcFan87 posted...
No. Baltimore made its bed now it can lay in it. Let this be a harsh lesson on what happens when people give the liberals what they want. Reap what you sow.


8xMRLrM

This guy kind of got his wish after all.

Well I hope he's fucking happy. Look, I am not denying police brutality and abuse exists, it does, but not to the degree people like this guy say it does. We live in a society where morality is on the decline and people seek all kinds of justification for rule breaking or law breaking and have the unmitigated gall to cry abuse of authority when police step in to try AND DO THEIR JOB, which is to uphold the laws of this country and keep order. This whole thing could have been avoided, but no everyone had to add fuel to the fire......it was more important to give the liberals/BLM what THEY wanted and fuck everyone else.......well now the price is being paid for that decision. Instead of order and security, Baltimore has anarchy and lawlessness........the shining, noble aspiration for every great, civilized, PROGRESSIVE, society......

If the FBI is smart, they'll stay far away and let the city stew in the repercussions of the decision to get rid of law enforcement........let it be a dramatic example for the rest of the country for what happens when radicals on the left are allowed to dictate how society should be.
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cjsdowg
05/05/17 10:04:29 PM
#129:


AcFan87 posted...
Baltimore has anarchy and lawlessness........the shining, noble aspiration for every great, civilized, PROGRESSIVE, society


A city that the former cops and the feds both said treat African-Americans poorly. So black people should just suck it up?
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/05/17 10:34:02 PM
#130:


The Admiral posted...
However, BLM is about exaggerating a narrative that it's "open season" on black people and that cops are systematically oppressing and murdering blacks without repercussion. This is complete horseshit, and all it does it confirm victim complexes (in people like you) and push people who feel like their lives are in danger into committing violence (like the Dallas sniper).


And this is where you show your complete ignorance regarding race relations.

BLM didn't do shit but publicize a notion that blacks have thought for literal decades, whether you believe it to be an exaggerated narrative or not. People like you who don't actually know anything about the black community (yet feel qualified to comment on it all the time) are just now seeing the boiling point of the tension between blacks and police that have built up over YEARS and are assuming that BLM is responsible for it, when in all actuality they are a BYPRODUCT of it.

Black people didn't need fucking BLM to happen to be scared of the police. What an idiotic notion.
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cjsdowg
05/05/17 10:40:49 PM
#131:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...

And this is where you show your complete ignorance regarding race relations.

BLM didn't do s*** but publicize a notion that blacks have thought for literal decades, whether you believe it to be an exaggerated narrative or not. People like you who don't actually know anything about the black community (yet feel qualified to comment on it all the time) are just now seeing the boiling point of the tension between blacks and police that have built up over YEARS and are assuming that BLM is responsible for it, when in all actuality they are a BYPRODUCT of it.

Black people didn't need f***ing BLM to happen to be scared of the police. What an idiotic notion.



Just like the people in the 60s who claimed the freedom riders were just causing trouble.
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DawkinsNumber4
05/06/17 1:23:22 PM
#133:


The Admiral posted...
meingott posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
I'm evidence the police treat white people like shit too.


lmao


Seriously. Xsquader, if anything, is evidence of how much shit the cops have to put up with and how incredibly patient and professional most of them remain even in light of insane and violent citizenry.



Conservatives who don't follow the law or the Constitution say this. Again, everything I state is not made up, it has case law as well as statutory law and definitions backing it. I don't just make shit up like that. It actually seems to serve the notion that officers are too unintelligent and they need to have a higher standard of intelligence for their officers or at the very least mandate they have at least a college level ability to read. When enforcing the laws you also have to be able to understand them.
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The Admiral
05/06/17 1:25:21 PM
#134:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
The Admiral posted...
meingott posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
I'm evidence the police treat white people like shit too.


lmao


Seriously. Xsquader, if anything, is evidence of how much shit the cops have to put up with and how incredibly patient and professional most of them remain even in light of insane and violent citizenry.



Conservatives who don't follow the law or the Constitution say this. Again, everything I state is not made up, it has case law as well as statutory law and definitions backing it. I don't just make shit up like that.


You were smashing your head against a cop car like an insane person, getting blood over the place that the cops would have to clean up. What shit is being made up there?
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DawkinsNumber4
05/06/17 1:32:04 PM
#135:


The Admiral posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
The Admiral posted...
meingott posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
I'm evidence the police treat white people like shit too.


lmao


Seriously. Xsquader, if anything, is evidence of how much shit the cops have to put up with and how incredibly patient and professional most of them remain even in light of insane and violent citizenry.



Conservatives who don't follow the law or the Constitution say this. Again, everything I state is not made up, it has case law as well as statutory law and definitions backing it. I don't just make shit up like that.


You were smashing your head against a cop car like an insane person, getting blood over the place that the cops would have to clean up. What shit is being made up there?



The 1st amendment grants the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Him failing to provide his identifier directly suppressed that right. Furthermore, he extorted me under color of law. That was Mikash. Molineux was just being condescending, insulting, and drawing attention, "Does this make sense to anyone else?" "HE WAS DRAWING ATTENTION". Pfft.

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmStatutesText.aspx?article=gcr&section=3-702&ext=html&session=2017RS&tab=subject5

"§3–702.
(a) In this section, “political subdivision” includes a:
(1) county;
(2) municipal corporation;
(3) bicounty or multicounty agency;
(4) county board of education;
(5) public authority; or
(6) special taxing district.
(b) An officer or employee of the State or of a political subdivision may not wrongfully obtain or attempt to obtain money, property, or anything of value from a person with the person’s consent, if the consent is obtained under color or pretense of office, under color of official right, or by wrongful use of actual or threatened force or violence.
(c) If the value of the property is at least $1,000 but less than $10,000, a person who violates this section:
(1) is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 10 years or a fine not exceeding $10,000 or both; and
(2) notwithstanding any pardon, shall be barred permanently from employment by the State or by a political subdivision.
(d) If the value of the property is at least $10,000 but less than $100,000, a person who violates this section:
(1) is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 15 years or a fine not exceeding $15,000 or both; and
(2) notwithstanding any pardon, shall be barred permanently from employment by the State or by a political subdivision.
(e) If the value of the property is $100,000 or more, a person who violates this section:
(1) is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 25 years or a fine not exceeding $25,000 or both; and
(2) notwithstanding any pardon, shall be barred permanently from employment by the State or by a political subdivision.
(f) If the value of the property is less than $1,000, a person who violates this section is guilty of the misdemeanor of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 18 months or a fine not exceeding $500 or both.
(g) A prosecution for a felony under this section shall be instituted within 5 years after the crime was committed."
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Taharqa_
05/06/17 2:25:20 PM
#136:


I really wonder if some of these CE users actually interact with black people, the post in topics like these make me think that they don't.
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The Admiral
05/06/17 6:28:56 PM
#137:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
"§3–702.
(a) In this section, “political subdivision” includes a:
(1) county;
(2) municipal corporation;
(3) bicounty or multicounty agency;
(4) county board of education;
(5) public authority; or
(6) special taxing district.
(b) An officer or employee of the State or of a political subdivision may not wrongfully obtain or attempt to obtain money, property, or anything of value from a person with the person’s consent, if the consent is obtained under color or pretense of office, under color of official right, or by wrongful use of actual or threatened force or violence.
(c) If the value of the property is at least $1,000 but less than $10,000, a person who violates this section:
(1) is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 10 years or a fine not exceeding $10,000 or both; and
(2) notwithstanding any pardon, shall be barred permanently from employment by the State or by a political subdivision.
(d) If the value of the property is at least $10,000 but less than $100,000, a person who violates this section:
(1) is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 15 years or a fine not exceeding $15,000 or both; and
(2) notwithstanding any pardon, shall be barred permanently from employment by the State or by a political subdivision.
(e) If the value of the property is $100,000 or more, a person who violates this section:
(1) is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 25 years or a fine not exceeding $25,000 or both; and
(2) notwithstanding any pardon, shall be barred permanently from employment by the State or by a political subdivision.
(f) If the value of the property is less than $1,000, a person who violates this section is guilty of the misdemeanor of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 18 months or a fine not exceeding $500 or both.
(g) A prosecution for a felony under this section shall be instituted within 5 years after the crime was committed."


You really still haven't learned to stop pretending to be a lawyer, huh? Despite facing decades in prison because you couldn't understand your state's wiretapping laws, you still insist that you can read a small portion of legal code from the Internet and know as much as law enforcement and legal personnel who spend decades mastering this stuff.

If it were any other user, it'd almost be unbelievable.
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untrustful
05/06/17 6:30:55 PM
#138:


"BLM doesn't go far enough."

"That mindset is influenced by blm."~CE
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DawkinsNumber4
05/07/17 12:44:01 AM
#139:


The Admiral posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...


You really still haven't learned to stop pretending to be a lawyer, huh? Despite facing decades in prison because you couldn't understand your state's wiretapping laws, you still insist that you can read a small portion of legal code from the Internet and know as much as law enforcement and legal personnel who spend decades mastering this stuff.

If it were any other user, it'd almost be unbelievable.


"because you couldn't understand your state's wiretapping laws"
I understand them just fine.

http://bobbaumlaw.com/recording-on-cell-phone-does-not-violate-wiretap-laws/

Since you think you can read better than me what does this say?

"Practice Pointer: Under the current state of the law, you may record someone without their permission if you do it on your cell phone. This would appear to be an unintended outcome of the Act, but as of the date of this writing it appears to be the status of the law."

What does this say? http://caselaw.findlaw.com/md-court-of-special-appeals/1674568.html

"The Maryland Wiretap Act, moreover, prohibits only interceptions that occur “through the use of any electronic, mechanical, or other device.” CJP § 10–401(3). Since a cell phone is not a “device,” under the Wiretap Act, as it specifically excludes “telephone” from the statutory definition of “electronic, mechanical, or other device,” see id. § 10–401(4), messages found in the victim's cell phone are not covered by the Act and therefore are not subject to exclusion under the strictures of the Act."

What does this say?

http://openjurist.org/493/f2d/346/united-states-v-harpel

"Harpel also contends that there can be no interception when a telephone extension is used because 18 U.S.C. 2510(5)(a) excludes from its definition of 'electronic, mechanial, or other device' telephone equipment 'furnished to the subscriber or user by a communications common carrier in the ordinary course of its business and being used by the subscriber or user in the ordinary course of its business . . ..' He maintains that it is just as likely as not under the evidence that the subject conversation was recorded through the use of an extension telephone and argues that there was therefore no interception. We agree that the evidentiary inferences point to the use of an extension telephone and thus face an interesting issue of statutory construction.


The government has adopted the position of the trial court below that the intercepting device was the recorder and not an extension telephone. While such a view avoids the problem presented, we are simply not persuaded by this contention. We agree with appellant that the recording of a conversation is immaterial when the overhearing is itself legal. It is the means whereby the contents of the conversation are acquired that is crucial. See State v. Vizzini, 115 N.J.Super. 97, 278 A.2d 235. A recording device placed next to, or connected with, a telephone receiver cannot itself be the 'acquiring ' mechanism. It is the receiver which serves this function-- the recorder is a mere accessory designed to preserve the contents of the communication. This interpretation comports squarely with the clear distinction drawn between 'intercepting' and 'recording' under 18 U.S.C. 2518(8)(a), which deals with judicially authorized interceptions:"


"United States Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit.

Argued and Submitted Nov. 13, 1973.
Decided March 12, 1974."

Been this way for a LOOOONG time. I am going to call you out personally when they aren't successful.
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DawkinsNumber4
05/07/17 1:08:44 AM
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Iodine
05/07/17 1:12:09 AM
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There has been few real consequences for police in brutality cases so this seems like an excuse for them to not have to do any work.
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DawkinsNumber4
05/07/17 3:10:28 PM
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Notice how Admiral disappeared after my last post.
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DawkinsNumber4
05/07/17 4:31:11 PM
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@The_Admiral care to address my last post or are you just going to make shit up and run?
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Delirious_Beard
05/07/17 4:31:57 PM
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The Admiral
05/07/17 8:12:59 PM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
@The_Admiral care to address my last post or are you just going to make shit up and run?


What am I making up? Are you or are you not being charged with with multiple criminal accounts for wiretapping? You pasting large posts of legal text that you didn't understand in the first place isn't an argument.
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DawkinsNumber4
05/08/17 1:28:05 AM
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The Admiral posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
@The_Admiral care to address my last post or are you just going to make shit up and run?


What am I making up? Are you or are you not being charged with with multiple criminal accounts for wiretapping? You pasting large posts of legal text that you didn't understand in the first place isn't an argument.



I understand them and that's why I told you to read them so you can oh so graciously point out what it is I am misunderstanding in them since you disagree.
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Kineth
05/08/17 6:08:50 AM
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Kineth posted...
Keith_Valentine posted...
Kineth posted...
Oh boy, and here we go to black on black violence. Nevermind the non criminal blacks, though. Nevermind a country with a history of enslaving black people and restricting their right to vote. Nevermind that poverty is most closely linked to crime as opposed to race. Nevermind not wanting to fund communities such as these. Nevermind the fuckton of studies (like all the ones linked here: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias) that show clear bias in the justice system. Nevermind all that. It's about black on black violence.

Moronic.

And what's more sickening is implying all cops are white and tying race to policing and crime.


What a crock of shit. What is wrong with you? People like this are what is wrong with race relations. The self loathing, holier than though cuck.


Elaborate or sit down.


@Keith_Valentine
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DawkinsNumber4
05/08/17 8:40:01 PM
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@The_Admiral


Please support your argument that I didn't understand what I was reading by pointing out where I made my mistake in understanding. Please then tell the judge of the court of special appeals that his ruling was wrong and he read wrong when ruling on the matter. Thank you.
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The Admiral
05/08/17 8:41:57 PM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
@The_Admiral


Please support your argument that I didn't understand what I was reading by pointing out where I made my mistake in understanding. Please then tell the judge of the court of special appeals that his ruling was wrong and he read wrong when ruling on the matter. Thank you.


You tried to read legal text yourself without any background in law, and you are now facing multiple criminal charges and decades in prison because the police and prosecutors disagree with your interpretation?

Is that correct or not?
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DawkinsNumber4
05/08/17 8:44:13 PM
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The Admiral posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
@The_Admiral


Please support your argument that I didn't understand what I was reading by pointing out where I made my mistake in understanding. Please then tell the judge of the court of special appeals that his ruling was wrong and he read wrong when ruling on the matter. Thank you.


You tried to read legal text yourself with any background in law, and you are now facing multiple criminal charges and decades in prison because the police and prosecutors disagree with your interpretation?

Is that correct or not?



It's not my interpretation. it's the court of special appeals' interpretation in 2014. A much higher court than an insignificant district court. Do you claim this is untrue? If so why was my citation not adequate enough for you? Also, why can't you specifically point out where I had a lack of understanding? You keep asking questions instead of answering them. You made the claim.
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DawkinsNumber4
05/08/17 8:47:26 PM
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Here it is again for you.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/md-court-of-special-appeals/1674568.html

"Court of Special Appeals of Maryland.
Charles Brandon MARTIN v. STATE of Maryland.


No. 2413, Sept. Term, 2010.
DECIDED: July 30, 2014"

"The Maryland Wiretap Act, moreover, prohibits only interceptions that occur “through the use of any electronic, mechanical, or other device.” CJP § 10–401(3). Since a cell phone is not a “device,” under the Wiretap Act, as it specifically excludes “telephone” from the statutory definition of “electronic, mechanical, or other device,” see id. § 10–401(4), messages found in the victim's cell phone are not covered by the Act and therefore are not subject to exclusion under the strictures of the Act."

" Since a cell phone is not a “device,” under the Wiretap Act, as it specifically excludes “telephone” from the statutory definition of “electronic, mechanical, or other device,” see id. § 10–401(4), messages found in the victim's cell phone are not covered by the Act and therefore are not subject to exclusion under the strictures of the Act."

" Since a cell phone is not a “device,” under the Wiretap Act, as it specifically excludes “telephone” from the statutory definition of “electronic, mechanical, or other device,” see id. § 10–401(4), messages found in the victim's cell phone are not covered by the Act and therefore are not subject to exclusion under the strictures of the Act."


How is that "my interpretation" and not the interpretation of the court of special appeals for my state?
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