Current Events > Ruined by child support: My one night stand is still costing me

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CruelBuffalo
05/02/17 11:00:26 AM
#154:


cjsdowg posted...
If he was drunk when they had sex, he could claim he was raped. But if you are a male and get raped you still have to pay support.

Was she drunk as well?
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CruelBuffalo
05/02/17 11:01:16 AM
#155:


Also can you imagine you're the son.

"I wish I got a DUI instead of letting you be born. I also fought against supporting your mom who is now raising you"

Lol scumbag dude
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scoobydoobydont
05/02/17 11:03:20 AM
#156:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
This post just makes you look stupid. I had sex before you started dedicating your life to gamefaqs.com.


Nothing sadder than a virgin who lies about being a virgin.
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frozenshock
05/02/17 11:04:15 AM
#157:


scoobydoobydont posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
This post just makes you look stupid. I had sex before you started dedicating your life to gamefaqs.com.


Nothing sadder than a virgin who lies about being a virgin.


What about a non-virgin who pretends to be a virgin?
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Another World
05/02/17 11:05:06 AM
#158:


CruelBuffalo posted...
cjsdowg posted...
If he was drunk when they had sex, he could claim he was raped. But if you are a male and get raped you still have to pay support.

Was she drunk as well?

if he said that he would be taken seriously. but he in no way said he felt raped. drunk sex isn't rape. when you cant make a decision you're so drunk and someone has sex with you it is. he never claimed the latter you just made that up for shock value.
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eston
05/02/17 11:05:31 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
eston posted...
Man the bitter virgins came out in full force ITT. No fucking way this is fair.

If he's paying that much child support, one of two things needs to happen.

1) he gets full custody of the kid
2) if he doesn't want the kid, it should be his choice to adopt out the little basterd

There's no way in hell this drunken slut should be awarded money for purposely keeping a guy in the dark like that, and then lawyering up before ever discussing anything with him. Clearly she was a trap.

You sound like the bitterest virgin of all


This post just makes you look stupid. I had sex before you started dedicating your life to gamefaqs.com.

Then I am impressed by your ability to out-bitter everyone else in the topic
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Sojy
05/02/17 11:30:48 AM
#160:


It really doesn't make sense for someone to be financially responsible for a child they don't have custody of.

If you give a child up to an adoption agency, you're no longer financially responsible. So it's odd that the precedent isn't retained with child support.
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countzander
05/02/17 11:37:38 AM
#161:


Darmik posted...
It's pretty weird that he's told she's pregnant and then he just sits back and thinks "well thank God that part of my life is over"

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wah_wah_wah
05/02/17 11:45:48 AM
#162:


Sojy posted...
It really doesn't make sense for someone to be financially responsible for a child they don't have custody of.

If you give a child up to an adoption agency, you're no longer financially responsible. So it's odd that the precedent isn't retained with child support.

You're thinking of it too much like the law prescribes a certain financial scheme and then all participants have to follow this way. A mother can refuse to accept child support if she wants. There's nothing in the law that says she has to get child support if she doesn't want it. But if she petitions for it, and you didn't really work out a situation of how the raising of the child is going to go down beforehand (like what happens with adoption) then the courts are going to see you as financially responsible.
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clearaflagrantj
05/02/17 11:50:53 AM
#163:


frozenshock posted...
I wonder if you can be forced to pay child support if you get an escort pregnant

They could literally force 500 men to take this 2000 bucks DNA test

Some thots will hit up all the men that fuck them and say "I'm getting Plan B because of you, pay me $200 or I'll have to keep it," and most guys will absolutely pay that small fee.
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Offworlder1
05/02/17 11:51:18 AM
#164:


Don't sleep with strange women without protection, is it really so difficult to not fuck up your life for the next 18 years if your responsible ?
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wah_wah_wah
05/02/17 11:53:22 AM
#165:


Offworlder1 posted...
Don't sleep with strange women without protection, is it really so difficult to not fuck up your life for the next 18 years if your responsible ?

Even if you wear protection you can still get a girl pregnant. It's not really about her getting knocked up as much as the shitty way he dealt with "the conversation" - by pretending like he had any strength or control over what was going to happen and threatening her lol. That's the absolute worst thing you can do if you find yourself in that seat.
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Offworlder1
05/02/17 12:10:35 PM
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True, but that is what the morning after pill is for, and the guy is a certain kind of stupid with how he handled it, no sympathy from me towards him.
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De Evolution
05/02/17 12:14:34 PM
#167:


Rika_Furude posted...
why can't he just abort his child support payments

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Bloodychess
05/02/17 12:46:29 PM
#168:


Darmik posted...
Why am I paying 100 per cent child support? I haven’t seen him once.


That's why, should have had the lawyer go after custody, not DNA
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Bloodychess
05/02/17 12:47:05 PM
#169:


Darmik posted...
He cut me off, “If you don’t sign, we’ll seize your assets.”


Also, is that legal?
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Solid Snake07
05/02/17 12:56:34 PM
#170:


Sounds like he made multiple bad choices here
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parkman32
05/02/17 1:10:47 PM
#171:


Darmik posted...
“You need to have a serious think about what you’re doing,” I said. “Think about the ramifications for both of us, long term.”

She hung up.

I didn’t hear anything from her until nine months after my son was born.

This makes it sound like he didn't try to reach her again and just thought the issue would go away. No sympathy from me, take ownership of your mistakes.
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The Great Muta 22
05/02/17 1:24:03 PM
#172:


parkman32 posted...
This makes it sound like he didn't try to reach her again and just thought the issue would go away. No sympathy from me, take ownership of your mistakes.


I just can't believe someone would be this stupid. If this article is to be believed he made no effort after being told he impregnated a chick beyond "You best not do that!" and then didn't contact her at all for a year and a half. Wouldn't basic curiosity in general result in you looking A LITTLE more into it than that?
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eston
05/02/17 1:26:51 PM
#173:


Unfortunately the "it's everyone's fault but mine" mindset isn't going anywhere soon
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Samurontai
05/02/17 1:40:13 PM
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MACisBack
05/02/17 1:45:19 PM
#175:


This topic hits close to home, but has anyone in this topic wondered about the other end of the spectrum.

Just curious as to what people think...

What's worse paying and you can see your child or be completely shut out of your daughter or son's life forever?
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clearaflagrantj
05/02/17 1:46:44 PM
#176:


MACisBack posted...
or be completely shut out of your daughter or son's life forever?

Fucking win win
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eston
05/02/17 1:49:06 PM
#177:


What's worse paying and you can see your child or be completely shut out of your daughter or son's life forever?

For some people the answer is extremely obvious, which just makes me sad for the kids tbqh
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alexg1989
05/02/17 2:29:25 PM
#178:


shouldn't have been acting like a degenerate fuckwit... your fault TC...

:)

raise your goddamn kid.
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Darmik
05/02/17 6:09:24 PM
#180:


I had a feeling this would be a popular one for CE heh.

The Great Muta 22 posted...
parkman32 posted...
This makes it sound like he didn't try to reach her again and just thought the issue would go away. No sympathy from me, take ownership of your mistakes.


I just can't believe someone would be this stupid. If this article is to be believed he made no effort after being told he impregnated a chick beyond "You best not do that!" and then didn't contact her at all for a year and a half. Wouldn't basic curiosity in general result in you looking A LITTLE more into it than that?


Either he's a moron or he's skipping over a lot of stuff that would make him look worse.
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giantblimpN7
05/02/17 6:14:33 PM
#181:


Literally a Wwepropaganda post and not a single one of you fucking degenerates can pause one second from your self righteous arguing to acknowledge his greatness. SMH
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Leanaunfurled
05/02/17 6:14:53 PM
#182:


People need to take responsibility for their actions, like, say, not using protection when fucking a random person, but the system in place currently, that milks a lot of men dry, also needs to be looked at. In my opinion women have too much power when it comes to children, with child payments they receive and who the child is allowed to live with.

Also, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but is the math not adding up quite right for anyone else with his one night stand and his girlfriend? Sounds like he was already with this chick when he drove out to fuck random FB ho.
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Sad_Face
05/02/17 6:20:55 PM
#183:


Darmik posted...
“You need to have a serious think about what you’re doing,” I said. “Think about the ramifications for both of us, long term.”

She hung up.


This isn't something you should say to a woman when she's telling you she's pregnant with your kid.
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Another World
05/02/17 7:27:01 PM
#184:


Leanaunfurled posted...
People need to take responsibility for their actions, like, say, not using protection when fucking a random person, but the system in place currently, that milks a lot of men dry, also needs to be looked at. In my opinion women have too much power when it comes to children, with child payments they receive and who the child is allowed to live with.

Also, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but is the math not adding up quite right for anyone else with his one night stand and his girlfriend? Sounds like he was already with this chick when he drove out to fuck random FB ho.

if by milks men dry you mean, a father pays what it actually costs to raise a kid. at "100%" he could sue for custody. but child care in america is so expensive, if he were paying her as a nanny 12k wouldn't be enough. and in reality 12k isn't enough for the child to thrive on. she is raising a child and i'm sure she is working, there is no way the child cost to be clothed, fed and get diapers is $35 a day. it seems high cuz the cost of kids is high.
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Cornmuffins
05/02/17 8:06:56 PM
#185:


giantblimpN7 posted...
Literally a Wwepropaganda post and not a single one of you fucking degenerates can pause one second from your self righteous arguing to acknowledge his greatness. SMH


That gimmick should have been laid to rest a while ago tbh
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voldothegr8
05/02/17 8:14:11 PM
#186:


Another World posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
People need to take responsibility for their actions, like, say, not using protection when fucking a random person, but the system in place currently, that milks a lot of men dry, also needs to be looked at. In my opinion women have too much power when it comes to children, with child payments they receive and who the child is allowed to live with.

Also, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but is the math not adding up quite right for anyone else with his one night stand and his girlfriend? Sounds like he was already with this chick when he drove out to fuck random FB ho.

if by milks men dry you mean, a father pays what it actually costs to raise a kid. at "100%" he could sue for custody. but child care in america is so expensive, if he were paying her as a nanny 12k wouldn't be enough. and in reality 12k isn't enough for the child to thrive on. she is raising a child and i'm sure she is working, there is no way the child cost to be clothed, fed and get diapers is $35 a day. it seems high cuz the cost of kids is high.

Gtfo with that tripe. It isn't about what the mother can live off of, that's alimony if applicable which is separate. It's about providing half the daycare/school, half the clothes, half the food, etc, about everything except houses and cars which is where alimony comes in. 12k a year is plenty for half of all that in most parts of the country.
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Another World
05/02/17 9:31:47 PM
#187:


voldothegr8 posted...
Another World posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
People need to take responsibility for their actions, like, say, not using protection when fucking a random person, but the system in place currently, that milks a lot of men dry, also needs to be looked at. In my opinion women have too much power when it comes to children, with child payments they receive and who the child is allowed to live with.

Also, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but is the math not adding up quite right for anyone else with his one night stand and his girlfriend? Sounds like he was already with this chick when he drove out to fuck random FB ho.

if by milks men dry you mean, a father pays what it actually costs to raise a kid. at "100%" he could sue for custody. but child care in america is so expensive, if he were paying her as a nanny 12k wouldn't be enough. and in reality 12k isn't enough for the child to thrive on. she is raising a child and i'm sure she is working, there is no way the child cost to be clothed, fed and get diapers is $35 a day. it seems high cuz the cost of kids is high.

Gtfo with that tripe. It isn't about what the mother can live off of, that's alimony if applicable which is separate. It's about providing half the daycare/school, half the clothes, half the food, etc, about everything except houses and cars which is where alimony comes in. 12k a year is plenty for half of all that in most parts of the country.

they said milking, i was saying he's paying the right amount for his child to be cared for. and do you have a child? you think 6k can pay for a child!!?? my other point about paying for a nanny, you can't expect a caregiver to provide 50% whether it's a man or woman. caring for a child inhibits your ability to make money.
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giantblimpN7
05/02/17 10:27:09 PM
#188:


Cornmuffins posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Literally a Wwepropaganda post and not a single one of you fucking degenerates can pause one second from your self righteous arguing to acknowledge his greatness. SMH


That gimmick should have been laid to rest a while ago tbh

I'd agree if he spammed it, but it's like a once every 3 months thing
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shnangyboos
05/03/17 3:02:29 AM
#190:


giantblimpN7 posted...
Cornmuffins posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Literally a Wwepropaganda post and not a single one of you fucking degenerates can pause one second from your self righteous arguing to acknowledge his greatness. SMH


That gimmick should have been laid to rest a while ago tbh

I'd agree if he spammed it, but it's like a once every 3 months thing



I don't see how you could dislike his gimmick.
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Kineth
05/03/17 6:12:28 AM
#191:


Cornmuffins posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Literally a Wwepropaganda post and not a single one of you fucking degenerates can pause one second from your self righteous arguing to acknowledge his greatness. SMH


That gimmick should have been laid to rest a while ago tbh


I agree with you a lot of the time, but not here.
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1NfamousACE_2
05/03/17 6:18:53 AM
#192:


It should be 50/50

No way he should be paying 100%
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the_cajun88
05/03/17 6:23:45 AM
#193:


giantblimpN7 posted...
Literally a Wwepropaganda post and not a single one of you fucking degenerates can pause one second from your self righteous arguing to acknowledge his greatness. SMH


You can e-blow him if you want, we aren't going to stop you.
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SuperShake666
05/03/17 6:25:36 AM
#194:


If a guy wants to keep a baby, but the woman doesn't she can still get an abortion without his consent. If a man doesn't want to keep a baby and the woman does, he still pays for it for 18 years.

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Howl
05/03/17 8:44:39 AM
#196:


Another World posted...
they said milking, i was saying he's paying the right amount for his child to be cared for. and do you have a child? you think 6k can pay for a child!!??


I do. My fiance's ex husband pays 200 dollars a month in child support, and since they live with me my expenses haven't gone up at all over what they would be without it. Kids do not cost very much to feed and clothe. At most food for them is 150$ a month. Are you really spending more than 50$ every month on clothes for them? No you buy them some clothes every 3 months or so and spend maybe 75$ if that. WTF kind of clothes do you buy your kid that costs that much anyway? Versace? No we buy her clothes at Wal-Mart and entire outfits cost like 20 bucks.
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Another World
05/03/17 11:15:48 PM
#197:


Howl posted...
Another World posted...
they said milking, i was saying he's paying the right amount for his child to be cared for. and do you have a child? you think 6k can pay for a child!!??


I do. My fiance's ex husband pays 200 dollars a month in child support, and since they live with me my expenses haven't gone up at all over what they would be without it. Kids do not cost very much to feed and clothe. At most food for them is 150$ a month. Are you really spending more than 50$ every month on clothes for them? No you buy them some clothes every 3 months or so and spend maybe 75$ if that. WTF kind of clothes do you buy your kid that costs that much anyway? Versace? No we buy her clothes at Wal-Mart and entire outfits cost like 20 bucks.

150 a month is 1.66 a meal. the cost of living must be very low.

here's the 1st result from google average cost:
http://www.parenting.com/article/the-cost-of-raising-a-baby

12k
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Howl
05/04/17 12:19:25 AM
#198:


Another World posted...
the cost of living must be very low.


It is that's one of the reasons Texas is awesome.
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donkeyjack
05/04/17 12:23:39 AM
#199:


Bro, a condom? Like WTF is wrong with you??
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Howl
05/04/17 12:28:29 AM
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Also I forgot to mention that she eats breakfast free at school and her lunch is 40 cents a day at school so that helps. In the summer it's more expensive but it's still cheap to feed her. She mostly eats fruits for snacks and cereal for breakfast. Lunch is legit super cheap because Sandwiches cost like nothing and dinner isn't any more expensive because it costs nothing more to feed a child than it does to feed 2 adults. Most meals that you can cook are more than enough for 2 people.
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Conker
05/04/17 12:28:37 AM
#201:


Another World posted...
Howl posted...
Another World posted...
they said milking, i was saying he's paying the right amount for his child to be cared for. and do you have a child? you think 6k can pay for a child!!??


I do. My fiance's ex husband pays 200 dollars a month in child support, and since they live with me my expenses haven't gone up at all over what they would be without it. Kids do not cost very much to feed and clothe. At most food for them is 150$ a month. Are you really spending more than 50$ every month on clothes for them? No you buy them some clothes every 3 months or so and spend maybe 75$ if that. WTF kind of clothes do you buy your kid that costs that much anyway? Versace? No we buy her clothes at Wal-Mart and entire outfits cost like 20 bucks.

150 a month is 1.66 a meal. the cost of living must be very low.

here's the 1st result from google average cost:
http://www.parenting.com/article/the-cost-of-raising-a-baby

12k


Just to point out, child-support isn't suppose to be the entire cost of raising a child, and that post did specify that is for food.

Regardless, that article statement is all spending on a child. That isn't the same as required cost of living.

My wife and I have a 2yr old and if she was raised strictly by me I'd probably get by on a $200/mo budget with her (outside of a couple medical expenses). My wife on the other hand spends way more on her (select daycare that's pricey, specific meals, tons of outfits/toys even on sale it adds up, lotions, equipment, safety junk, convenience items, cool strollers/car seats, etc) she won't even remember most of the stuff and a lot of it is just because of the modern safety requirements and paranoia of people.

Not that I'm saying it's not nice to have that stuff, but articles that talk about middle-class families and how much they'll spend on kids is skewed because it's certainly not bare necessities.

We COULD have our kid in a daycare that costs probably less than half as much as it does, but my wife chose one that had a curriculum and report cards, specific diet/meals, daily updates throughout the day (through an app), cameras and recordings, listed time of day for diaper/clothes changes and eating (including portions), and other various things that aren't necessities but definitely advance and provide a good place for her. I say that as if I didn't "choose" the daycare, but it was more like a preference my wife had and I honestly think it's nice but certainly wouldn't have been a priority if I were alone making those decisions.
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_wwKd_
05/04/17 12:34:39 AM
#203:


Didn't read a damn thing other than OP.

My father ran out on my mom and I when I was 8.

Divorced was filed and my Mom got Child Support from him. Buuuut. Like that didn't ruin his life for some reason.

He didn't even pay at all after a certain point.

I'm 26 now and he still owes me but he's just living his life scot free. So I don't see how the fuck you're getting boned so hard.

He has a place. He even went back to school for a degree and he has his own construction business thing. Although it's ALL under the table.

You must have gotten a real shitty lawyer or something.
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Another World
05/04/17 2:10:53 AM
#204:


Howl posted...
Also I forgot to mention that she eats breakfast free at school and her lunch is 40 cents a day at school so that helps. In the summer it's more expensive but it's still cheap to feed her. She mostly eats fruits for snacks and cereal for breakfast. Lunch is legit super cheap because Sandwiches cost like nothing and dinner isn't any more expensive because it costs nothing more to feed a child than it does to feed 2 adults. Most meals that you can cook are more than enough for 2 people.

https://www.austinisd.org/nutritionfoodservices/meal-prices

.40 i cant find that anywhere except a subsidized lunch. full price is 2.79 at least in Austin. if your school provides free food and lunch for .40 it is a great entitlement for the district. also the reason why i don't think her getting 100% is unreasonable is because raising a newborn is literally a full time job and if she doesn't have help daycare is more expensive than working (depending on skill set). if he had custody and had to stay home i would think she might need to pay 100%.
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Sinroth
05/04/17 2:14:02 AM
#205:


Fairest of nexts.
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