Current Events > Federal science agencies to actually either stay flat or boost for 2017 funds.

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http://www.nature.com/news/science-wins-reprieve-in-us-budget-deal-1.21835

That's a good sign for the future.
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thanks to our current administrations incompetence
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Up for good news everyone!
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Why can't we privatize science. Just look at what Elon Musk did in a few years vs. NASA.
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based trump
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Surprising and good news

FightingGames posted...

based trump

The plan devised by Congress, which covers the remainder of the 2017 budget year, avoids the sharp cuts to science proposed by US President Donald Trump.

Did you perhaps mean to type "debased"
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Seriously, how incompetent are republicans to have the majority and not get a single thing they wanted lol. Science is good. No wall money. PP is funded. You'd think some libs got their hands on this bill.
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foreveraIone posted...

Why can't we privatize science. Just look at what Elon Musk did in a few years vs. NASA.

Because the vast majority of science has no profit motive.
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Surprising. I guess there's still hope for this country.
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COVxy posted...

foreveraIone posted...

Why can't we privatize science. Just look at what Elon Musk did in a few years vs. NASA.

Because the vast majority of science has no profit motive.

well, more accurately, no short-term profit motive. years or decades after the basic research is done, private industry--which gets free access to the results--is able to engineer products to make use of the science. but they'll never make the investment on their own; they have to "pay the shareholders first."
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I was just joking bro.
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there are no jokes here

covxy and i are actually the first generation of robots designed to replace doctoral and postdoctoral researchers
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Darkman124 posted...

well, more accurately, no short-term profit motive.

I guess it depends on how you're conceptualizing science, as an enterprise or as a discrete set of units called experiments. I was think like the latter, meaning the only experiments with a profit motive are the last in the string that develop the application. The reason I stated it like this is because the labs that do the first set of experiments are most often an entirely different group than those who do the applied work. Meaning that funding the first basic steps is not only indirect in terms of the particular experiment, but also the people.
But we're in complete agreement, really.
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Darkman124 posted...

there are no jokes here

covxy and i are actually the first generation of robots designed to replace doctoral and postdoctoral researchers

Damn it, you've developed so much self awareness that you've contaminated the results of the Turing test!
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COVxy posted...

Darkman124 posted...

well, more accurately, no short-term profit motive.

I guess it depends on how you're conceptualizing science, as an enterprise or as a discrete set of units called experiments. I was think like the latter, meaning the only experiments with a profit motive are the last in the string that develop the application. The reason I stated it like this is because the labs that do the first set of experiments are most often an entirely different group than those who do the applied work. Meaning that funding the first basic steps is not only indirect in terms of the particular experiment, but also the people.
But we're in complete agreement, really.

we are. i definitely have the enterprise view.

some chemist 50 years ago discovered you could concentrate light metals in solid propellants and got a nice university grant in hamburg or some shit.

now raytheon sells a design based on his work for 100 million dollars a missile

kill all humans
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Beep boo..

Boomp. Bump, yeah that's what I meant.
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