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liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.
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WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>
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This topic won't last.
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CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense
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WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live, and the mom can treat it the same as she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."
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yeah kids being treated as a punishment is so great for said kids/s

WalkingLobsters posted...

CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense

"common sense" is often wrong
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WalkingLobsters posted...

CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense

Real citation needed.
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense

Real citation needed.

yeah because the studies and statistics used to determine the presidential election winner were grounded in scholarly integrity *rolls eyes*
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WalkingLobsters posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense

Real citation needed.

yeah because the studies and statistics used to determine the presidential election winner were grounded in scholarly integrity *rolls eyes*

Deflection is not a citation.
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense

Real citation needed.

yeah because the studies and statistics used to determine the presidential election winner were grounded in scholarly integrity *rolls eyes*

Deflection is not a citation.

let's see your citation that it's not that reason lol

inb4 you can't
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WalkingLobsters posted...

, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

Let's get real here, though. Abortions are mostly the result of women knowing that they're too poor to raise a kid, which is why there is such a strong racial disparity in abortion rates. Black women are five times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and this lines up with both poverty and the lack of a likely father who will raise the kid. The Atlantic did an article on this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/
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WalkingLobsters posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

CrimsonAngeI posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

<citation needed>

common sense

Real citation needed.

yeah because the studies and statistics used to determine the presidential election winner were grounded in scholarly integrity *rolls eyes*

Deflection is not a citation.

let's see your citation that it's not that reason lol

inb4 you can't

I only have to provide evidence if I make a claim. I have not made a claim, I simply requested a real citation.
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The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.
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The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

Let's get real here, though. Abortions are mostly the result of women knowing that they're too poor to raise a kid, which is why there is such a strong racial disparity in abortion rates. Black women are five times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and this lines up with both poverty and the lack of a likely father who will raise the kid. The Atlantic did an article on this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/

by that logic let's just kill all the kids in poverty and orphanages then.

also:

https://www.theatlantic.com/projects/2016-election/


lmao
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I'm gonna knock up my gf just to get an abortion and wear a flag shirt as we get it done to celebrate our freedom.
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MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

A fetus cannot be argued to be a human life until sentience is possible which is roughly 24-26 weeks on. If you try to call it a human life before that then you must also call sperm a human life. The sentience is where we can finally draw a distinction.
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I'm pretty sure that fetus isn't thinking much of anything, least of all about procedures it would have zero conept of.
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...

A fetus cannot be argued to be a human life until sentience is possible

absolutely wrong. Otherwise someone who is a vegetable is no longer human
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MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

They're actually on the nose with their beliefs regarding the sanctity of life. They don't bullshit about being pro-life while at the same time doing everything they can to oppose teaching sex ed, offering birth control, pre-natal services, and programs meant to aid mothers and babies once they're actually born.
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The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

Let's get real here, though. Abortions are mostly the result of women knowing that they're too poor to raise a kid, which is why there is such a strong racial disparity in abortion rates. Black women are five times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and this lines up with both poverty and the lack of a likely father who will raise the kid. The Atlantic did an article on this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/

Wow, that's fucking racist.

Nevermind the proven facts, you just said something bad about a minority. You racist shitlord.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

They're actually on the nose with their beliefs regarding the sanctity of life. They don't bullshit about being pro-life while at the same time doing everything they can to oppose teaching sex ed, offering birth control, pre-natal services, and programs meant to aid mothers and babies once they're actually born.

that's because you shouldn't be having sex if you're not prepared to raise a child.
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MakoReizei posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

A fetus cannot be argued to be a human life until sentience is possible

absolutely wrong. Otherwise someone who is a vegetable is no longer human

Not a proper comparison because they had already developed sentience and then mostly lost it (vegetables can still perform some basic cognitive tasks [breathing]) whereas a fetus and sperm both have never developed sentience to begin with.
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WalkingLobsters posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

They're actually on the nose with their beliefs regarding the sanctity of life. They don't bulls*** about being pro-life while at the same time doing everything they can to oppose teaching sex ed, offering birth control, pre-natal services, and programs meant to aid mothers and babies once they're actually born.

that's because you shouldn't be having sex if you're not prepared to raise a child.

So the child really is just a punishment.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

They're actually on the nose with their beliefs regarding the sanctity of life. They don't bulls*** about being pro-life while at the same time doing everything they can to oppose teaching sex ed, offering birth control, pre-natal services, and programs meant to aid mothers and babies once they're actually born.

that's because you shouldn't be having sex if you're not prepared to raise a child.

So the child really is just a punishment.

whole point of life is to pass on your genetics. You're committing sacrilege to your species by wanting to engage in coitus without passing on genetics.
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WalkingLobsters posted...

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liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I'm curious if you know how expensive it is to have a child? And im not talking about expense on raising a child, I mean the healthcare aspect of a women being pregnant and birthing a child. Especially the expense if a women has complications during the pregnancy.

Not everything is black and white when it comes to abortion.
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byron posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

They're actually on the nose with their beliefs regarding the sanctity of life. They don't bullshit about being pro-life while at the same time doing everything they can to oppose teaching sex ed, offering birth control, pre-natal services, and programs meant to aid mothers and babies once they're actually born.

that's because you shouldn't be having sex if you're not prepared to raise a child.

How about you shouldn't raise a child if you're not prepared to raise a child?

yeah that's a good point. Don't create a child if you're not prepared to raise a child.

Murder is not an option.
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The majority of abortions are performed before the embryo looks like it does in that picture. More importantly, the embryo has no concept of "mom," or life and death.

You're absolutely right TC

Abortion is not moral
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WalkingLobsters posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

MakoReizei posted...

The Admiral posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

liberals like to pretend that abortion exists to get rid of unwanted children due to rape, but the vast majority of time it's due to not holding people accountable of their drunken actions.

I don't really hear this argument so much as liberals saying that the fetus has no right to live and the mom can treat it the same she treats a bowel movement because it's "her body, her choice."

it's disgusting the disregard they have for human life.

They're actually on the nose with their beliefs regarding the sanctity of life. They don't bulls*** about being pro-life while at the same time doing everything they can to oppose teaching sex ed, offering birth control, pre-natal services, and programs meant to aid mothers and babies once they're actually born.

that's because you shouldn't be having sex if you're not prepared to raise a child.

So the child really is just a punishment.

whole point of life is to pass on your genetics. You're committing sacrilege to your species by wanting to engage in coitus without passing on genetics.

We're a species with a large brain and a knack for problem solving. If we were never meant to drive nails into boards then we would have never invented the hammer. If we were never meant to travel the seas we would have never invented the boat. And since we decided that sex is awesome but kids aren't we invented birth control. If we weren't supposed to do things that we ought not to we wouldn't have scuba gear and airplanes. Yet we do. Problem?
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Vertania posted...

The majority of abortions are performed before the embryo looks like it does in that picture. More importantly, the embryo has no concept of "mom," or life and death.

neither do babies.
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WalkingLobsters posted...

neither do babies.

Good point. They should legalize 4th trimester abortions.

I wish I was aborted so I never had to read topics like this.
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WalkingLobsters posted...

whole point of life is to pass on your genetics.

Calling it the "point" of life is a bit misleading. It doesn't have a point in the way we typically think of that expression. It's not a prescriptive goal or purpose. It's just a description of what life does in order to continue.
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WalkingLobsters posted...

Vertania posted...

The majority of abortions are performed before the embryo looks like it does in that picture. More importantly, the embryo has no concept of "mom," or life and death.

neither do babies.

So they don't mind then.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

WalkingLobsters posted...

whole point of life is to pass on your genetics.

Calling it the "point" of life is a bit misleading. It doesn't have a point in the way we typically think of that expression. It's not a prescriptive goal or purpose. It's just a description of what life does in order to continue.

Wrong.
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That's about the caliber of response I expected, yeah.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

That's about the caliber of response I expected, yeah.

you sound mad
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eh you'll get over it
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this walkinglobster / admiral combo shitpost is all over the place today

Hiding behind non sequitor accusations won't make your argument any better.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Hiding behind non sequitor accusations won't make your argument any better.

hiding behind a computer screen won't disguise your anger, young padawan.
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Does my supposed anger have something to do with whether or not abortion is morally justifiable?
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I'm pro choice.

Abortion isn't a form of birth control. Wrap your shit up, make sure she's taking some kind of necessary steps as well.
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I'm pretty sure most people know the majority of abortions are not due to rape.

What would we gain as society for forcing people to birth children they don't want or are too poor/stupid/immature to raise?

I think it is both utilitarian and morally right to allow abortion.
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Monday posted...

I'm pro choice.

Abortion isn't a form of birth control. Wrap your shit up, make sure she's taking some kind of necessary steps as well.

Birth control isn't 100% effective. There's always a slim chance it fails. Not that you shouldn't use it, but it's not some magical prevent pregenacy thing.

Some people simply don't have the proper support networks to raise a child and not everyone is going to be financially stable to take up such a burden at the time.
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my dad tried to coerce and force my mom to abort me and my sister. what a piece of shit
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