Current Events > Do you partake in anything stereotypical hipster?

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I draw the line at using shitty old inferior technology because of some misguided sense of authenticity. e.g. fixie bikes and typewriters, but I'm probably a bona fide hipster otherwise, right down to the coffee and expensive speakeasy bars and "here's a bunch of fusion jazz from the 70s you've probably never heard of".
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it's jazz fusion you god damned hipster
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Turtlebread posted...

it's jazz fusion you god damned hipster

Getting bent out of shape over the correct labeling of music genres is just what a hipster would do!
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I hate things being pushed on me, especially if it's super popular already and people keep going on about how much I should watch/listen to it. and I tend to like obscure things which hasn't reached peak mainstream yet. and I guess I kinda talk laidback for everything, inc professionally

but i'm not sure if those are 'hipster'. I wish there was another label to use rather than hipster coz I feel like i'm a mesh of a few subcultures
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I'm too old to care anymore. In fact, I'm moving from hipster central (in my area) to a quieter spot today.
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Parappa09 posted...

I hate things being pushed on me, especially if it's super popular already and people keep going on about how much I should watch/listen to it. and I tend to like obscure things which hasn't reached peak mainstream yet. and I guess I kinda talk laidback for everything, inc professionally

but i'm not sure if those are 'hipster'. I wish there was another label to use rather than hipster coz I feel like i'm a mesh of a few subcultures

If we're being real for a sec, I always wondered what the hell hipster is supposed to mean anyway (to some people that just means you have trendy glasses), but I read a description on reddit once which is the most accurate way to put it I've ever seen:

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/11pw6d/i_told_two_girls_at_the_library_to_be_quiet_about/c6orpz9/

Hipster culture is a reaction against perceived cultural trends of inauthenticity and superficiality. In a hyper commoditized world where commercial motives permeate every layer of the cultural fabric and advertising and lobbying dollars make everything in mainstream society suspect or of questionable motives, hipster culture has arisen to offer an alternative set of values and attitudes.

Hipster culture is primarily built on two behaviors: the fetishization of authenticity, coupled with a derisive, dismissive and ironic rejection of everything that doesn't fit within that narrow category.

The hipster concept of "authenticity" is complex but largely based on i) age, where objects or ideas older than a few decades are perceived to be more authentic as they sprang from a culture less corrupted by commercialization, and ii) a spartan kind of utility, where bare-bones items are seen as less commercially exploitative and thus more reliable.

Thus, hipster culture embraces fixed-gear bikes, mechanical typewriters, folk music, drinking from mason jars and vinyl records as they are all perceived to be both old and spartan. It also embraces things like mustaches and vintage clothes (just old), and apple products (just perceived to be of extreme simplicity).

Cont.

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i wear yoga pants sometimes.

and i go to starbucks sometimes.

and sometimes i do both at the same time.

don't judge me... they're comfy and i just like the frappes
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pinky0926 posted...

I draw the line at using shitty old inferior technology

what if i use shitty inferior technology cause i don't give a shit, i'm too lazy to upgrade, and don't really feel like i need it?

am i still a hipster for using an old Nokia phone, then?
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pinky0926 posted...

Hipster culture is a reaction against perceived cultural trends of inauthenticity and superficiality. In a hyper commoditized world where commercial motives permeate every layer of the cultural fabric and advertising and lobbying dollars make everything in mainstream society suspect or of questionable motives, hipster culture has arisen to offer an alternative set of values and attitudes.

but don't you think that the hipster culture is starting to become commercialised itself?

there's small independent coffee shops with beards/moustaches as logos, vintage stores which cater specifically to hipsters, boom in price of fixed-gear bikes, mechanical typewriters, etc
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CirocObama posted...

Mainly just with food. I only eat at two chain restaurants, the rest are all one offs.

Oh man I'm a big hipster foodie. But I was fortunate enough to live with a great chef who gave me a ton of perspective on the restaurant trade, so I've stopped being that guy who needlessly criticises food without understanding what goes into it.

His biggest pain was getting those part time food bloggers in who would complain that "the ceviche was unbalanced", like they even know the first fucking thing about what a ceviche is or whatever the fuck unbalanced means.

ROBANN_88 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

I draw the line at using shitty old inferior technology

what if i use shitty inferior technology cause i don't give a shit, i'm too lazy to upgrade, and don't really feel like i need it?

am i still a hipster for using an old Nokia phone, then?

Nah that's not hipster. You'd only be hipster if you deliberately sought out the Nokia phone because you felt it was actually better.
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Parappa09 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Hipster culture is a reaction against perceived cultural trends of inauthenticity and superficiality. In a hyper commoditized world where commercial motives permeate every layer of the cultural fabric and advertising and lobbying dollars make everything in mainstream society suspect or of questionable motives, hipster culture has arisen to offer an alternative set of values and attitudes.

but don't you think that the hipster culture is starting to become commercialised itself?

there's small independent coffee shops with beards/moustaches as logos, vintage stores which cater specifically to hipsters, boom in price of fixed-gear bikes, mechanical typewriters, etc

Yeah absolutely - that comment goes on to touch on exactly that:

But as hipster culture has grown in popularity and has itself become more mainstream, the central definitions of these various concepts have shifted from being chiefly substantive (or at least, substantive based on dubious perception) to being chiefly aesthetic. Being seen to be authentic has become more important even within hipster culture than authenticity itself.

The real irony is that hipster culture is now aided and abetted by mainstream culture itself, as products and services are offered that appeal to the aesthetic sense of authenticity while being wholly of the commercial and inauthentic nature that hipster culture sprang up in reaction against. The waters are further muddied by some factions of hipster culture co-opting and subverting aspects of "faux" hipster culture to mock it in by the same method original hipster culture mocked mainstream culture.

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I have been drinking craft beer for the last 10 years and wearing plaid since the 90s..


Im no hipster tho
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pinky0926 posted...

Yeah absolutely - that comment goes on to touch on exactly that:

...I should have just read the whole fucking thread
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No idea. I still couldn't tell you what a hipster is. It seems to mean different things to different people.
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PMarth2002 posted...

No idea. I still couldn't tell you what a hipster is. It seems to mean different things to different people.

I feel like hipsters have big beards or 1880s facial hair. Maybe lots of tattoos and they dress like old people.
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joshbutt posted...

PMarth2002 posted...

No idea. I still couldn't tell you what a hipster is. It seems to mean different things to different people.

I feel like hipsters have big beards or 1880s facial hair. Maybe lots of tattoos and they dress like old people.

That describes everyone from bros, chavs, celebrities, sports stars to your father now.
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My jeans are pretty tight fitting and I love indie music (particularly indie folk). I'm not sure if those qualify as 'hipster' these days
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I mean I have In the Aeroplane Over the Sea on vinyl so...
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I often applaud sincerity in art
who knows
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black metal
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