Current Events > Pope Francis visits Egypt where scores of Christians were killed on Palm Sunday

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Saloonist
04/28/17 9:26:41 PM
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Pope Francis said violence cannot be committed in the name of God, in a speech at a Muslim-Christian conference in Egypt.

The 80-year-old touched down at Cairo airport on Friday before he was ushered in a car to meet Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi.

Francis is in Egypt on a 27-hour visit to push for dialogue with Muslims and support the country's embattled Christian minority that has suffered a series of attacks.

"Peace alone ... is holy and no act of violence can be perpetrated in the name of God, for it would profane his name," the Catholic pontiff said.

He also warned against rising populism.

"Demagogic forms of populism are on the rise. These certainly do not help to consolidate peace and stability," he told the conference, organised by al-Azhar, the world's foremost Sunni Islamic centre of learning.

"It is essential that we spare no effort in eliminating situations of poverty and exploitation, where extremism more easily takes root, and in blocking the flow of money and weapons destined to those who provoke violence."

Acts that do not promote peace are "a gift to the proponents of radicalism and violence", the pope said.

Amid high security, the pontiff is meeting with Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Imam of the government-run Al-Azhar mosque and an Islamic philosophy professor, before meeting with Sisi and Pope Tawadros II, the head of Egypt's Coptic Church.

Egypt has been under a state of emergency since two bombings in Coptic churches earlier this month that killed 45 people.

All of the country's churches have been placed under additional protection because of the risk of another assault timed to coincide with Francis being in the country.

The most recent attacks have been claimed by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) group, which has warned of further attacks against Egypt's Coptic Christians and on the Vatican.

Armoured cars have been stationed in front of the presidential palace and security men have been posted every hundred yards along a 20km stretch between the airport and central Cairo.

The Pope is also going to meet Coptic Pope Tawadros II.

Egypt's Copts, who make up about 10 percent of the country's population of 92 million, are the Middle East's largest Christian minority and one of the oldest.

The two men are due to walk together to the Coptic church of Saint Peter and Saint Paul in the heart of Cairo, which was hit by a bomb attack in December claimed by ISIL that killed 29 people.

The attack was the deadliest targeting the Coptic community since the 2011 suicide bombing that killed 23 people in Alexandria.

On Saturday, the pontiff will preside over a mass for the country's small Catholic community, estimated to number around 272,000 spread across various rites.

Egypt has seen a wave of attacks against Christians since 2013, when the military led by Sisi overthrew President Mohamed Morsi, the country's first democratically elected president.

For decades, Christians have complained of discrimination, saying they are denied top jobs in many fields, including academia and the security forces.

They have also accused the security forces of failing to do enough to protect them from "religious extremists", a complaint that has persisted under Sisi's rule.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/pope-francis-arrives-egypt-historic-day-visit-170428113013811.html
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Kekistan
04/28/17 9:35:39 PM
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I didn't know Francis still cares about actually oppressed Christians in the Middle East. He's so afraid of offending certain groups of people that he's been literally kissing their feet a lot lately.
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Bluster
04/28/17 9:38:16 PM
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so brave
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E32005
04/28/17 9:39:43 PM
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Saloonist posted...

"It is essential that we spare no effort in eliminating situations of poverty and exploitation, where extremism more easily takes root,

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mustachedmystic
04/28/17 9:40:56 PM
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Kekistan posted...
I didn't know Francis still cares about actually oppressed Christians in the Middle East. He's so afraid of offending Muslims that he's been literally kissing their feet a lot lately.


Yeah, the pope should preach hatred for other religions, just as Jesus did. /s
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Kekistan
04/28/17 9:57:45 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Kekistan posted...
I didn't know Francis still cares about actually oppressed Christians in the Middle East. He's so afraid of offending Muslims that he's been literally kissing their feet a lot lately.


Yeah, the pope should preach hatred for other religions, just as Jesus did. /s

I am sure Middle Eastern Christians would appreciate it if he acknowledges his people being tortured and killed off and he actually puts the blame on the people who attacked them instead of saying some silly excuses like global warming and poverty would be nice. Call a spade a spade.

How could Christians even have faith in their religious leaders if the leaders won't even say the names of their oppressors? They already couldn't count on the west to help them.

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Zikten
04/28/17 9:59:42 PM
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Kekistan posted...
when the leaders won't even say the names of their oppressors?

this is what made me lose some respect for him. I used to think he was great. but he's doing the same shit that Obama used to do. Refusing to say the phrase "islamic terror"
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DarkChozoGhost
04/28/17 10:05:27 PM
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Saloonist posted...
no act of violence can be perpetrated in the name of God


Looks like calling them out to me
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3rd_Best_Master
04/28/17 10:13:57 PM
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Kekistan posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Kekistan posted...
I didn't know Francis still cares about actually oppressed Christians in the Middle East. He's so afraid of offending Muslims that he's been literally kissing their feet a lot lately.


Yeah, the pope should preach hatred for other religions, just as Jesus did. /s

I am sure Middle Eastern Christians would appreciate it if he acknowledges his people being tortured and killed off and he actually puts the blame on the people who attacked them instead of saying some silly excuses like global warming and poverty would be nice. Call a spade a spade.

How could Christians even have faith in their religious leaders if the leaders won't even say the names of their oppressors? They already couldn't count on the west to help them.

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Is he wrong though?
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Kekistan
04/28/17 10:14:16 PM
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Looks like calling them out to me

And that's after how many lives have been lost? Hence my original post. I didn't know Francis still cares about them.
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mustachedmystic
04/29/17 2:38:36 PM
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What's the Pope supposed to do, other than what he has already done? And as for the "west" helping them, you should have said America(the only country able to field an expeditionary force), most would agree that they have had enough of our help.
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Saloonist
04/29/17 5:13:44 PM
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The Christians of the Middle East are doomed. There's nothing anyone can or will do to help them.
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NinjaBreakfast
04/29/17 5:15:17 PM
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Kekistan posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Kekistan posted...
I didn't know Francis still cares about actually oppressed Christians in the Middle East. He's so afraid of offending Muslims that he's been literally kissing their feet a lot lately.


Yeah, the pope should preach hatred for other religions, just as Jesus did. /s

I am sure Middle Eastern Christians would appreciate it if he acknowledges his people being tortured and killed off and he actually puts the blame on the people who attacked them instead of saying some silly excuses like global warming and poverty would be nice. Call a spade a spade.

How could Christians even have faith in their religious leaders if the leaders won't even say the names of their oppressors? They already couldn't count on the west to help them.

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G_G
04/29/17 5:16:34 PM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Kekistan posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Kekistan posted...
I didn't know Francis still cares about actually oppressed Christians in the Middle East. He's so afraid of offending Muslims that he's been literally kissing their feet a lot lately.


Yeah, the pope should preach hatred for other religions, just as Jesus did. /s

I am sure Middle Eastern Christians would appreciate it if he acknowledges his people being tortured and killed off and he actually puts the blame on the people who attacked them instead of saying some silly excuses like global warming and poverty would be nice. Call a spade a spade.

How could Christians even have faith in their religious leaders if the leaders won't even say the names of their oppressors? They already couldn't count on the west to help them.

https://assets.rbl.ms/6473532/980x.jpg



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Skye Reynolds
04/29/17 5:16:50 PM
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Christians were killed in Egypt on Palm Sunday? Why hadn't I heard of this?
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Vamp_Aubrey
04/29/17 5:19:07 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Christians were killed in Egypt on Palm Sunday? Why hadn't I heard of this?

it was all over the news
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Skye Reynolds
04/29/17 5:32:35 PM
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Ah. I guess I hadn't been paying much attention lately.

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Nazanir
04/29/17 5:40:30 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Saloonist posted...
no act of violence can be perpetrated in the name of God


Looks like calling them out to me

It's kind of ironic for him to be saying that, since the Bible calls for violence when it comes to adultery or homosexuality for example.
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Doom_Art
04/29/17 5:44:10 PM
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@Kekistan 's indignation would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't so full of crap
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Tmaster148
04/29/17 5:48:06 PM
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Nazanir posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Saloonist posted...
no act of violence can be perpetrated in the name of God


Looks like calling them out to me

It's kind of ironic for him to be saying that, since the Bible calls for violence when it comes to adultery or homosexuality for example.


The bible does not call for violence against sinners. What sinners do is between them and God.
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