Current Events > Do you think Solid Snake would survive all the Resident Evil incidents?

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I think he'd struggle against the Tyrant
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Easily.

He'd probably do even better. I mean, Rebecca friggin Chambers survived Zero and 1. I think Snake would manage fine - likely advancing faster since he's not held back by literal keys.
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This is a dude who fights multiple giant walking battle tanks on foot
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And why can't Jill pick more advanced locks with her lockpick?

"master of unlocking", indeed.
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Resident evil incidents aren't hard to survive given that you have the weapons. A 19 year old college girl and 20 year old first day rookie survived them. Most video game MCs would.
Slow walking zombies and a few bosses aren't really that difficult.
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As long as there's no zombie crab mutants.
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Zombies don't really care about cardboard boxes
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In fact A tofu with a knife can survive Resident Evil
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Zombies don't care about tofu either
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eston posted...

Zombies don't care about tofu either

Well, they attack Tofu..so...obviously they do.
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Even Akiba could survive a Resident Evil scenario.
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Strider102 posted...

Even Akiba could survive a Resident Evil scenario.

That's reaching
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He just distracts with taps.
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Snake or Big Boss would literally steamroll anything that the RE universe throws at them. Even the most insane bosses.

They'd outperform every RE character and more.
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SpiritSephiroth posted...

They'd outperform every RE character and more.

Iono about that. Prime Leon is pretty legit but Big Boss did beat a bunch of zombie ninjas in MGS5 doe.
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Could he punch that boulder tho
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

SpiritSephiroth posted...

They'd outperform every RE character and more.

Iono about that. Prime Leon is pretty legit but Big Boss did beat a bunch of zombie ninjas in MGS5 doe.

The greatest feats done by an RE protag is from Jake in RE6. And even he isn't much of a challenge for Snake.
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GiftedACIII posted...

The greatest feats done by an RE protag is from Jake in RE6. And even he isn't much of a challenge for Snake.

Bro, Leon beat a fucking evolved mutated Krauser. And I'd say Krauser >>> Jake.
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SpiritSephiroth posted...

Snake or Big Boss would literally steamroll anything that the RE universe throws at them. Even the most insane bosses.

They'd outperform every RE character and more.

idk about Wesker
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I don't think he'd survive that laser chamber in 4. Remember, the one where Leon does the backflips and stuff?

Snake: *crouch* Damn!
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

The greatest feats done by an RE protag is from Jake in RE6. And even he isn't much of a challenge for Snake.

Bro, Leon beat a fucking evolved mutated Krauser. And I'd say Krauser >>> Jake.

And he had access to all his weapons. Jake fights Ustanak (who is shown to be way physically stronger than Krauser) with hand to hand and wins.
And Jake is said to be biologically enhanced like his father anyway so statistically he is stronger and more skilled than Leon ever could be.
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GiftedACIII posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

The greatest feats done by an RE protag is from Jake in RE6. And even he isn't much of a challenge for Snake.

Bro, Leon beat a fucking evolved mutated Krauser. And I'd say Krauser >>> Jake.

And he had access to all his weapons. Jake fights Ustanak (who is shown to be way physically stronger than Krauser) with hand to hand and wins.
And Jake is said to be biologically enhanced like his father anyway so statistically he is stronger and more skilled than Leon ever could be.

Aight you right you right
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How is Snake gonna pass the lake part in RE4, though? Does he know how to use a boat and throw them harpoons like Leon?
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DevsBro posted...

I don't think he'd survive that laser chamber in 4. Remember, the one where Leon does the backflips and stuff?

Snake: *crouch* Damn!

LMAo Raiden could doe because he knows how to do them somersaults and back flips.
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I mean, I'm not saying Leon isn't extremely badass but after RE4 they really decided to escalate the badassery. Like even Chris in RE5 could survive going against a being that can dodge bullets (which requires supersonic speed) after he's been disarmed and of course PUNCH BOULDERS. Sheva too and she's only, what, 21?
But stil, metal gear's universe as a whole has always been more grande than RE's so it's not really fair to put people who's fought literal psychic beings and gundams against zombies.
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He wouldn't survive the mansion.

Stealth isn't a thing in most RE games, it's about running past things and shooting them. Snake gets beaten and captured every single game. In RE if a zombie gets you he infects you.

Only exception would be if he had help.

Remember Rebecca had Billy, Jill Had Barry and Chris had Rebecca.

If you argue that somehow his skull suit protects him from infection, he'd probably do pretty well.

But then my question is who would extract him? The end of nearly every RE incident someone throws you a missle launcher and then the facility blows up.

Maybe Octacon with a chopper?

So Snake with Skull suit that blocks infections + Octacon support would probably do okay. He'd survive the mansion.

Then in RE2/3 he'd have no idea where to go in Racoon city and just get killed. Especially if Nemesis is after him.

And if we count the odd games like Outbreak, Survivor or Dead Aim he'd be fucked. Snake is not equipped to handle waves of hordes of oncomers, he's a sneaky guy.

Imagine Snake doing an entire mission that was like the end of MGS2 where you shoot at people? He couldn't do it. Especially if we judge based on Big Boss' Stamina meter in MGS3

And even if somehow made it past all that. He'd get wrecked in RE4. Again the hordes of enemies and Las Plagas would destroy him and Ashley

Also someone already mentioned the laser hallway.

As popular as he is, Snake would get fucked
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Vamp basically was a Resident Evil bio weapon and Snake had no issues
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Stealth isn't a thing in most RE games, it's about running past things and shooting them. Snake gets beaten and captured every single game. In RE if a zombie gets you he infects you.

Snake only needs stealth in MGS because the enemies have guns

Snake is an expert at firearms more so than even Chris so Zombies aren't an issue

he would likely feel relief not having to stealth and just run and gun with no guilt

also, Snake's expertise is on site procurement of weapons

you know, the whole thing you do in RE
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Vamp basically was a Resident Evil bio weapon and Snake had no issues

You mean where Vamp defeated him inside of a minute then Raiden saved his life?
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But Snake ain't no master of unlocking, though. He'd lose immediately.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Snake only needs stealth in MGS because the enemies have guns
Snake is an expert at firearms more so than even Chris so Zombies aren't an issue

Yeah no one is questioning Snake's skill with guns but I disagree with your assertion that Snake only uses stealth because of guns and is amazing as a fighter. He's literally a wet-works agent. His skill is stealth.

he would likely feel relief not having to stealth and just run and gun with no guilt

Hard to say because there is no example in MGS of Solid Snake running and gunning a whole mission

However as I said we do know Big Boss could not run and gun a whole mission. And Solid is a clone of him

also, Snake's expertise is on site procurement of weapons you know, the whole thing you do in RE

Actually Jill and Chris start with weapons. Snake would have to go quite far just running before he got one.

And if he got Jill's path, with no Barry to save him he'd become a Snake Sandwich after getting the shotgun when the ceiling comes down.

Assuming its MGS2 and he starts with a tranq gun, that would be literally useless on anything apart from Wesker.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Hard to say because there is no example in MGS of Solid Snake running and gunning a whole mission

there is when I play it :P
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darkphoenix181 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Hard to say because there is no example in MGS of Solid Snake running and gunning a whole mission

there is when I play it :P

Yeah but even if you run, you run against 1-5 guys. Not:

https://youtu.be/FBB1EKnQNDU?t=3m14s

Waves like that
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Stealth isn't a thing in most RE games, it's about running past things and shooting them. Snake gets beaten and captured every single game. In RE if a zombie gets you he infects you.

It most certainly is a thing in RE. On speed runs and higher difficulties it's all about avoiding pretty much all the enemies while doing the objectives. And Snake only gets captured by firearm wielding humans, something which the majority of RE protags would also get captured by. If all of them could survive their respective stories, so could Snake.
Also, the reason pre4 REs were challenging was because your combat was shit and you had limited ammo. You could theoretically kill every zombie with the knife but the protags (besides in CV, where you could basically just kill everything with the knife) are shit at using it. Snake isn't shit at using a knife. There's nothing stopping him from getting behind a zombie and just slicing their head off.

Post RE4 is when left 4 dead esque super infected start happening and that's a way bigger challenge, but Snake should still be able to get past them if he gets the same loadout as the RE protags in the game. I mean, if normal untrained everyday civilians could survive Left 4 Dead whose enemies are more threatening than most of RE's than Snake certainly would
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Snake would not be able to punch a giant rock down and he would not survive the laser room I thought we discussed this.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Snake would not be able to punch a giant rock down and he would not survive the laser room I thought we discussed this.

My bad, I was talking about the gameplay stuff. The cutscene stuff gets crazier I admit. I don't know if Snake can't get past those though. I haven't played all the metal gear games but he really can't dodge the laser rooms? He probably can't punch the rock down but he could find another way. I mean, final wesker is much weaker than normal wesker, pretty sure Snake has fought bosses on that level.
I would actually say Snake wouldn't be able to beat normal wesker in a straight fight if it wasn't for the fact that the way Chris beat him was basically by using stealth-Snake's strength, anyway.
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GiftedACIII posted...

but he really can't dodge the laser rooms?

Leon displays masterful acrobatic skills to dodge the lasers. I don't remember Snake being able to do anything like that. Anyone wanna prove me wrong?
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

but he really can't dodge the laser rooms?

Leon displays masterful acrobatic skills to dodge the lasers. I don't remember Snake being able to do anything like that. Anyone wanna prove me wrong?

snake just tanks them like he did in mgs4
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Hmm, now that I think about it, Leon could've dodged all of them by just jumping off the walls like he did with the last one. If snake can't jump off walls despite all the things he's done then I'd be really disappointed
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

but he really can't dodge the laser rooms?

Leon displays masterful acrobatic skills to dodge the lasers. I don't remember Snake being able to do anything like that. Anyone wanna prove me wrong?

Nanomachines.
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GiftedACIII posted...

It most certainly is a thing in RE. On speed runs and higher difficulties it's all about avoiding pretty much all the enemies while doing the objectives.

Avoding them and stealth is not the same thing. On speedruns they just run past nearly all the enemies. Not sneak past so they are never spotted

and speed runners know exactly what's coming and where they are going

And Snake only gets captured by firearm wielding humans, something which the majority of RE protags would also get captured by. If all of them could survive their respective stories, so could Snake.

You missed my point, they still get to him. in RE's case they would infect him

Also, the reason pre4 REs were challenging was because your combat was shit and you had limited ammo. You could theoretically kill every zombie with the knife but the protags (besides in CV, where you could basically just kill everything with the knife) are shit at using it. Snake isn't shit at using a knife. There's nothing stopping him from getting behind a zombie and just slicing their head off.

This is sort of choppy. in MG1 + 2 and MGS 1 + 2 he never uses a knife.

in MGS4 he suddenly does but he's an old man by that point.

Post RE4 is when left 4 dead esque super infected start happening and that's a way bigger challenge, but Snake should still be able to get past them if he gets the same loadout as the RE protags in the game. I mean, if normal untrained everyday civilians could survive Left 4 Dead whose enemies are more threatening than most of RE's than Snake certainly would
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I don't think he would get beyond RE4 to try.

It's hard to say because why is he in Racoon city for RE2 and 3? And does he have to do what Ada and HUNK did?

In RE1 we can say he went in to find out about the murders.

But in RE2 and 3, Jill, Leon and Rebecca just sorta were there.

If he was sent in among the military/umbrealla forces just to "fight the zombies" he'd have no idea where to go and die when they get overwhelmed. Especially with Nemesis chasing him

And in 4, no gun skills in the world will save snake from the hordes of villiages and Las Plagas would wreck him.


Even if he got passed all that. Code Veronica Wesker or RE4 Krauser would beat him easily going by how utterly easily Vamp defeated him. And Vamp was hesitating.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

And in 4, no gun skills in the world will save snake from the hordes of villiages and Las Plagas would wreck him.

it saved Leon
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Hmm, now that I think about it, Leon could've dodged all of them by just jumping off the walls like he did with the last one. If snake can't jump off walls despite all the things he's done then I'd be really disappointed

TTS Snake could but then again TTS Snake is like Bugs Bunny levels of goofy.

So prepare to be disappointed I guess.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Even if he got passed all that. Code Veronica Wesker or RE4 Krauser would beat him easily going by how utterly easily Vamp defeated him. And Vamp was hesitating.

if I recall you fight vamp again in mgs4 and snake woops his butt
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pegusus123456 posted...

This is a dude who fights multiple giant walking battle tanks on foot

darkphoenix181 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

And in 4, no gun skills in the world will save snake from the hordes of villiages and Las Plagas would wreck him.

it saved Leon

No it didn't. Ada saved Leon by ringing the church bells.

Leon was screwed in the story.

And putting that aside, Snakes' CQC is useless against Zombies because you want to stay the hell away from them. The Las Plagas would love CQC

And then shortly afterwards Leon was OHKOed.

darkphoenix181 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Even if he got passed all that. Code Veronica Wesker or RE4 Krauser would beat him easily going by how utterly easily Vamp defeated him. And Vamp was hesitating.

if I recall you fight vamp again in mgs4 and snake woops his butt

Possibly.

I guess a lot of this question assumes which Solid Snake are we talking about. I'm sort of going of MGS1 Snake.

Well years pass across the RE Games so I suppose according to the timeline it would be like:

Resident Evil 1,2,3, CODE:Veronica, Survivor, - Metal Gear Snake.

Operation Javier, Dead Aim - Metal Gear 2 Snake

Resident Evil 4, Revelations, Resident Evil 5 - Metal Gear Solid Snake.

Revelations 2, Resident Evil 6, Umbrella Corps - Metal Gear Solid 2 Solid Snake

Resident Evil 7 - MGS4 Solid Snake.

In which case, Snake is pretty fucked. He'd die in nearly all of those scenarios.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Avoding them and stealth is not the same thing. On speedruns they just run past nearly all the enemies. Not sneak past so they are never spotted

and speed runners know exactly what's coming and where they are going

If a 20 year old first day rookie and a 19 year old college girl can do it then Snake certainly would. Again, the only reason pre4 REs were challenging was because of the horrible controls. Even with those controls you're still expected to avoid most of them. Snake would certainly be able to do that with his much better maneuverability.


UnfairRepresent posted...

And in 4, no gun skills in the world will save snake from the hordes of villiages and Las Plagas would wreck him.

Then Leon/Ada wouldn't have survived either.
UnfairRepresent posted...

Even if he got passed all that. Code Veronica Wesker or RE4 Krauser would beat him easily going by how utterly easily Vamp defeated him. And Vamp was hesitating.

If both Leon and Ada can defeat him, I'm certain Snake would. Krauser doesn't use firearms in his mutated form so he's even easier than major bosses Snake has faced.

He's not beating Wesker though most likely. I don't think Wesker would even target him though.
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Dude krauser's weakness was a fucking knife and some CQC skills lmao

What do you think all the snakes do
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GiftedACIII posted...

Krauser doesn't use firearms in his mutated form

He used them against Leon....
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