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AliceofInsanity
04/27/17 11:58:49 PM
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if they so identify as such?


Let's see what people think.
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Annihilated
04/28/17 12:01:01 AM
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Gave TC the appropriate tag.
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YookaLaylee
04/28/17 12:01:15 AM
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They have the right to be called by those pronouns. Just like I have the right to find it idiotic
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Vicious_Dios
04/28/17 12:03:12 AM
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No, I don't. I'll try not to lose some sleep over being a bigot.
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marthsheretoo
04/28/17 1:17:36 AM
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If you give people no choice but to call themselves bigots, TC, they will do so. And then, to those people, being called a bigot will no longer be a badge of shame, but a point of pride.

What you do with this knowledge is up to you.
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MakoReizei
04/28/17 1:18:22 AM
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not a right so no
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organicbamf
04/28/17 1:18:34 AM
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YookaLaylee posted...
They have the right to be called by those pronouns. Just like I have the right to find it idiotic


yep
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AliceofInsanity
04/28/17 1:32:42 PM
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marthsheretoo posted...
If you give people no choice but to call themselves bigots, TC, they will do so. And then, to those people, being called a bigot will no longer be a badge of shame, but a point of pride.

What you do with this knowledge is up to you.

Maybe the problem is that we have too many people willingly accepting the label in the first place like there's nothing wrong with that.
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ThePrinceFish
04/28/17 1:34:34 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
They have the right to be called by those pronouns. Just like I have the right to find it idiotic

They have the right to want to be called those pronouns. Nothing gives them the right to have average people take them seriously.
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prettyprincess
04/28/17 1:36:43 PM
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dubious use of 'right'
but yeah I try to accommodate people's predilections that don't hurt me
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nableet
04/28/17 1:39:20 PM
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If they respect my right to be referred to as "big daddy" then I will respect their right to be "ze".
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green butter
04/28/17 1:40:47 PM
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here's a page from the new star wars novel

https://i.redd.it/tbi0yi375fty.jpg

welcome to the future, bigots
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NihilistTurian
04/28/17 1:45:16 PM
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Just this once, I'd rather be a bigot.
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StucklnMyPants
04/28/17 1:46:14 PM
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green butter posted...
here's a page from the new star wars novel

https://i.redd.it/tbi0yi375fty.jpg

welcome to the future, bigots

lmao That's not real, is it?
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nableet
04/28/17 1:48:07 PM
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green butter posted...
here's a page from the new star wars novel

https://i.redd.it/tbi0yi375fty.jpg

welcome to the future, bigots


Star Wars happened long, long ago. Scrub.
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green butter
04/28/17 1:49:49 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
green butter posted...
here's a page from the new star wars novel

https://i.redd.it/tbi0yi375fty.jpg

welcome to the future, bigots

lmao That's not real, is it?

it is, novel's called Star Wars Aftermath: Life Debt

nableet posted...
Star Wars happened long, long ago. Scrub.

maybe their past is our future? let that sink in. we dont know what year star wars takes place
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mattnd2007
04/28/17 1:50:50 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
They have the right to be called by those pronouns. Just like I have the right to find it idiotic


sums up my feelings pretty well. if they want to be called xhe or something they can, but i think it's fucking stupid.
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MJ_Max
04/28/17 1:51:56 PM
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Asking to be called "they" is reasonable.
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BlueberryBumYum
04/28/17 2:00:47 PM
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voldothegr8
04/28/17 2:02:29 PM
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Like Chappelle said, how far is too far? Why do the vast majority have to change their pronoun game for a few?
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The23rdMagus
04/28/17 2:02:57 PM
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MJ_Max posted...
Asking to be called "they" is reasonable.

I'm for this. The rest I find somewhat silly. Until we can develop as a language and have unambiguous gender-neutral singular and group pronouns that don't sound like a fantasy novel, I'm sticking with "they".
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Mal_Fet
04/28/17 2:04:20 PM
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Strange times we live in when you have a right for others to speak to you in a special way.
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Electrokinesis
04/28/17 2:04:24 PM
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AliceofInsanity posted...
Let's see what people think.

I think your poll is shit.
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thelovefist
04/28/17 2:05:37 PM
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8 year old account.
Less than 100 karma.

Seems legit
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The Eternal Flame
04/28/17 2:06:56 PM
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They can ask me to call them whatever they want and for the sake of maintaining social convention, I'll do it. I'll still think they're absolutely ridiculous and deranged if it's anything other than male or female.
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SuperExcitebike
04/28/17 2:23:49 PM
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No, I think they are asking for too much
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MorbidFaithless
04/28/17 2:25:01 PM
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How do you even pronounce zhe?
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Medz8606
04/28/17 2:37:59 PM
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There are more than two genders

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4lsgOSUMAAscaX.jpg
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garan
04/28/17 4:24:30 PM
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AliceofInsanity posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
If you give people no choice but to call themselves bigots, TC, they will do so. And then, to those people, being called a bigot will no longer be a badge of shame, but a point of pride.

What you do with this knowledge is up to you.

Maybe the problem is that we have too many people willingly accepting the label in the first place like there's nothing wrong with that.


There's nothing wrong with people accepting something that is wrongly thrown out by SJWs who ignore basic human rights (like free speech) and any science that doesn't agree with them (like all of the studies proving gendered behavior is not a social construct).
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averagejoel
04/28/17 4:32:03 PM
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garan posted...
(like all of the studies proving gendered behavior is not a social construct).


what

I'd like to know where these studies are coming from

Also, @ TC: yes

40% of transgender people attempt suicide by the time they're 20. Anyone who doesn't respect their pronouns or deadnames them or makes "jokes" along the lines of "I identify as an attack helicopter" is contributing to that
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Vertania
04/28/17 4:41:21 PM
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averagejoel posted...
40% of transgender people attempt suicide by the time they're 20.

It's almost like it's a mental illness or something.
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AliceofInsanity
04/28/17 4:42:19 PM
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Vertania posted...
It's almost like it's a mental illness or something.

This is offensive to the point that it's baffling it's such a commonly held viewpoint.
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Vertania
04/28/17 4:50:56 PM
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AliceofInsanity posted...
This is offensive to the point that it's baffling it's such a commonly held viewpoint.

It's only "offensive" because people stigmatize the term "mental illness." By definition, it just means "a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life." Clearly, 40% of them attempting suicide indicates suffering and/or poor ability to function.

It's not offensive to call ADHD, depression, anxiety disorders, and PTSD mental illnesses.
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The Admiral
04/28/17 4:53:07 PM
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AliceofInsanity posted...
No because I'm not an idiot


Fixed the poll choice, since TC was too ignorant to do so himself.
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Kisai
04/28/17 4:53:38 PM
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-l___________l- posted...
if someone asked me to say ze or zhe or xay or some shit i probably will just say 'they' or 'the person' tbh <_<

Thankfully, I've never come across anyone that's asked me to call them by that. But I would use the gender-neutral "they" as well.
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averagejoel
04/28/17 4:56:00 PM
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Vertania posted...
averagejoel posted...
40% of transgender people attempt suicide by the time they're 20.

It's almost like it's a mental illness or something.

Gender Dysphoria - the distress caused by the discrepancy between an individual's brain and body - is a recognized medical condition, if that's what you mean.
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AliceofInsanity
04/28/17 5:02:08 PM
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Vertania posted...
It's only "offensive" because people stigmatize the term "mental illness." By definition, it just means "a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life." Clearly, 40% of them attempting suicide indicates suffering and/or poor ability to function.

It's not offensive to call ADHD, depression, anxiety disorders, and PTSD mental illnesses.

People hide behind "real" definitions all the time and use them as an excuse for their prejudices.
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Annihilated
04/28/17 5:12:23 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Vertania posted...
averagejoel posted...
40% of transgender people attempt suicide by the time they're 20.

It's almost like it's a mental illness or something.

Gender Dysphoria - the distress caused by the discrepancy between an individual's brain and body - is a recognized medical condition, if that's what you mean.


Well CLEARLY the body is wrong.
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faizan_faizan
04/28/17 5:17:54 PM
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Xhe sounds like something we'd use to refer to aliens
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acidic_eggs
04/28/17 5:24:55 PM
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its free speech yeah

personally i would, but it shouldnt be required
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MangaFan462
04/28/17 5:27:19 PM
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Those types I just ignore.
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Balkov
04/28/17 5:32:06 PM
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Id probably refer to them by their name instead
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Terra-enforcer
04/28/17 5:35:07 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
They have the right to be called by those pronouns. Just like I have the right to find it idiotic

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LJRENEGADE
04/28/17 5:35:35 PM
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Sure, they can call themselves whatever they want, but I personally would only call them he or she. Expecting people to refer to you by unique pronouns is pretty ridiculous imo.
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Terra-enforcer
04/28/17 5:38:49 PM
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thelovefist posted...
8 year old account.
Less than 100 karma.

Seems legit

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Nazanir
04/28/17 5:39:35 PM
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Lol, imagine being called a bigot by someone who is so selfabsorbed, they get to tell you how to adress them.
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acidic_eggs
04/28/17 5:40:59 PM
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Nazanir posted...
they get to tell you how to adress them.

you mean literally everyone? or do you and your friends wear nametags with your name on it at all times
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Nomadic View
04/28/17 5:42:39 PM
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That is not a right.
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