Current Events > Canada plans to counter Trump's moronic Lumber tariffs by banning American coal

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Barenziah Boy Toy
04/27/17 1:29:43 PM
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http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/27/15444540/british-columbia-coal-exports

British Columbia’s premier, Christy Clark, has an idea for Canada to hit back at President Trump’s new softwood lumber tariffs in a way that microtargets his political base — banning thermal coal exports from her province’s ports.

The ports themselves are under federal jurisdiction, so it would be up to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau whether to try for this action. But Clark explained during a press conference Wednesday at a paper mill and separately in a letter to Trudeau that she thinks the time is right for a move she claims to have long favored on environmental grounds. Shipping American coal through BC ports over to Asia is “not good for the environment” she explains, “but friends and trading partners cooperate.”

Now, however, “the United States is taking a different approach.”

A ban on exporting coal through Canada’s west coast ports would put a crimp in Trump’s promises to revive US coal mining employment (promises that are likely unrealistic anyway), further endear Trudeau’s government to Trump’s domestic political opponents, and likely do the environment some good. It’s also simply a reminder that Trump isn’t the only person in global politics who can play the game of threat and bluff, and that most of his opponents in said game probably have a much stronger grasp of the underlying issues.
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Coal’s salvation has been found in Asia, where rapid growth in Chinese industrialization plus Japan’s declining use of nuclear power after the Fukushima disaster have spurred steady demand for imports. One big limiting factor in the shipping of American coal to Asia is that to get the coal on boats, you need shipping terminals on the Pacific Coast. And the US Pacific Coast is dominated by blue states that don’t look super favorably on the ecological impact of coal exports. Two and a half years ago, for example, Oregon blocked a big proposal to build a new coal export terminal.

The use of ports in British Columbia — which itself is a coal mining region — has thus been increasing over time, with 6.2 million tons exported in 2016. In her letter, however, Clark draws a distinction between American thermal coal (destined for use in power plants) and the different grade of coal mined in BC, which is suitable for metallurgical uses. Metallurgical coal is less polluting, she says, and barring American thermal coal could free up more port space for it, perhaps even creating mining jobs in BC.

/sigh
/smh
/gg
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Giant_Aspirin
04/27/17 1:30:17 PM
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take THAT coal miners of America!

oh wait, he was supposed to help those guys. whooooops
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Bok_Choi
04/27/17 1:30:31 PM
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and so that coal gets sold inside the US instead of Canada

Coal gains money form expensive US costs of coal

???

Profit
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TheBestPostr
04/27/17 1:31:01 PM
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Every time I hear some childish, spiteful globalist shit like this, I just remind myself who won the election.

Victory!
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Bio1590
04/27/17 1:31:20 PM
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HypnoCoosh
04/27/17 1:32:33 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY6fp95uGfM

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EasterPikachu
04/27/17 1:32:51 PM
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tired of winning yet?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
04/27/17 1:33:37 PM
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Bok_Choi posted...
and so that coal gets sold inside the US instead of Canada

No, blockhead. The only countries that love to use coal is China and Japan. Europe doesn't like it, and Africa/Middle East have their own oil. So the only way to transport it cheaply is through the Pacific.

The coal exports would have nowhere to go because California, Oregon, and Washington state has a problem with coal - thus making it harder to transport, and harder to sell.
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Bio1590
04/27/17 1:34:38 PM
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Bok_Choi posted...
and so that coal gets sold inside the US instead of Canada

Coal gains money form expensive US costs of coal

???

Profit

Who is it being sold to? Canada isn't actually buying it they're just exporting it for you.
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Bok_Choi
04/27/17 1:35:09 PM
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GeneralZhao
04/27/17 1:38:04 PM
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TheBestPostr posted...
Every time I hear some childish, spiteful globalist shit like this, I just remind myself who won the election.

Victory!


Its not spiteful. A lumber tariff makes no sense whatsoever
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PoopPotato
04/27/17 1:39:19 PM
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Can the States interfere with international trade?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
04/27/17 1:43:05 PM
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PoopPotato posted...
Can the States interfere with international trade?

Depends on how much potential harm to the state, said trade would cause. If it's a matter of national security, then obviously, there's a smaller threshold. If it's simply a matter of private profits, then there's a larger threshold.
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Were_Wyrm
04/27/17 1:46:13 PM
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Haha take that conservatives!
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polopili
04/27/17 1:50:55 PM
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This tariff had no reason to exist and has been brought into court several times over the last decades and Canada won every time. The US already gets a rebate on lumber due to weak $CAD, this was a nothing but a dick move.
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Proto_Spark
04/27/17 2:07:15 PM
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I'd like to think Trump is actually a hippie and wanted to end coal in the united states, so performed a ridiculous and fantastic plan to perfectly lead to coal being phased out in a way people are okay with.

I don't think that's actually the case, but I'd like to believe it.
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Were_Wyrm
04/27/17 5:03:42 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
I'd like to think Trump is actually a hippie and wanted to end coal in the united states, so performed a ridiculous and fantastic plan to perfectly lead to coal being phased out in a way people are okay with.

I don't think that's actually the case, but I'd like to believe it.

Still playin that 7D chess.
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E32005
04/27/17 5:05:50 PM
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