Current Events > 10 TALIBAN warriors infiltrate Afghan National Army base.160 Afghan soldiers KIA

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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:12:03 PM
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Taliban fighters, wearing uniforms and driving two military vehicles, drove into the base, claiming to have wounded soldiers in need of urgent medical care. A witness said that the attackers passed unchallenged through an outer checkpoint, killed two guards at the next one, and destroyed a third one with rocket-propelled grenades.

At the time of the attack, most soldiers were unarmed, attending Friday prayers at a mosque on the base and eating at a restaurant. A soldier who witnessed the attack said that "It was a chaotic scene and I didn't know what to do [...] There was gunfire and explosions everywhere." Another soldier described how an attacker had set up a machine gun through the window of a truck "and shot everyone in his way." It was the single deadliest known attack on an Afghan military base in the course of the long war.

According to the Taliban, four of the attackers had served as soldiers who had been staged at the base and knew its layout. Two of the attackers detonated their suicide vests in the mosque and eight others were killed in the ensuing gun battle. It took about five hours for security forces that responded to the attack to kill the militants and secure the base. 140 soldiers were killed and 160 wounded in the massacre, according to provincial official Mohammad Ibrahim Khair Andesh. A Taliban statement released after the attack claimed that a total of at least 500 Afghan soldiers had been injured or killed.


What a disaster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Camp_Shaheen_attack?wprov=sfla1
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E32005
04/25/17 4:13:12 PM
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:14:06 PM
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E32005 posted...
i give up

You have to give the Taliban some credit. That was some elite shit.
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E32005
04/25/17 4:15:39 PM
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Saloonist posted...
E32005 posted...
i give up

You have to give the Taliban some credit. That was some elite shit.

i mean it was smart, they obviously did their homework. but the gov't soldiers are just so fucking incompetent they allowed this to happen, they let these guys just go in unchecked. wtf kinda shit is that?
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Vaati_Reborn
04/25/17 4:15:53 PM
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wait didnt this happen last year?
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fan357
04/25/17 4:15:58 PM
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Saloonist posted...
E32005 posted...
i give up

You have to give the Taliban some credit. That was some elite shit.


No it wasn't. It was idiot guards not doing their jobs.
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:18:13 PM
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fan357 posted...
Saloonist posted...
E32005 posted...
i give up

You have to give the Taliban some credit. That was some elite shit.


No it wasn't. It was idiot guards not doing their jobs.

Which the Taliban seems to have been aware would happen. Their intelligence and execution is about as good as they could have hoped for. This was the greatest number of casualties the government has suffered in the whole war. 10 men gave them 300+ casualties.
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:18:26 PM
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Vaati_Reborn posted...
wait didnt this happen last year?

This happened three days ago
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Ammonitida
04/25/17 4:20:48 PM
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Saloonist posted...
E32005 posted...
i give up

You have to give the Taliban some credit. That was some elite shit.


Damn! Were they led by Stallone's Rambo III?
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AsucaHayashi
04/25/17 4:21:18 PM
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>national army base
>no weapons in sight

i mean come on
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04/25/17 4:23:20 PM
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Funkdamental
04/25/17 4:24:58 PM
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Dropping one MOAB doesn't really redeem a disaster like this.
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:25:06 PM
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eston posted...
I'm surprised this isn't bigger news

No one cares because it's not Americans dying anymore
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voldothegr8
04/25/17 4:27:18 PM
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Saloonist posted...
Vaati_Reborn posted...
wait didnt this happen last year?

This happened three days ago

I remember reading something like this in the past too
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fan357
04/25/17 4:27:44 PM
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If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:28:36 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Saloonist posted...
Vaati_Reborn posted...
wait didnt this happen last year?

This happened three days ago

I remember reading something like this in the past too

Well yeah, they've infiltrated Afghan bases before and maybe American ones too if I recall correctly. But this was their most successful hit yet.
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:30:09 PM
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fan357 posted...
If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.

Meh I'm not really going to argue about this, but to me catching your enemy off guard and killing scores of them while suffering minimal casualties seems fairly skillful
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fan357
04/25/17 4:43:05 PM
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Saloonist posted...
fan357 posted...
If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.

Meh I'm not really going to argue about this, but to me catching your enemy off guard and killing scores of them while suffering minimal casualties seems fairly skillful


Suicide isn't skillful.
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Keith_Valentine
04/25/17 4:45:46 PM
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Saloonist posted...
fan357 posted...
If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.

Meh I'm not really going to argue about this, but to me catching your enemy off guard and killing scores of them while suffering minimal casualties seems fairly skillful


Guy is fucking openly praising Taliban cowards who murdered their own people in cold blood. Calls them skilled and elite.

They are defected soldiers who used their insider knowledge of a base to attack while men were mostly eating and praying. If that is admirable, in any way, to you..? @tc then you're just a fool and you sicken me
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Saloonist
04/25/17 4:48:25 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Saloonist posted...
fan357 posted...
If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.

Meh I'm not really going to argue about this, but to me catching your enemy off guard and killing scores of them while suffering minimal casualties seems fairly skillful


Guy is fucking openly praising Taliban cowards who murdered their own people in cold blood. Calls them skilled and elite.

They are defected soldiers who used their insider knowledge of a base to attack while men were mostly eating and praying. If that is admirable, in any way, to you..? @tc then you're just a fool and you sicken me

Lol stop exaggerating. I'm not a Taliban sympathizer.

That doesn't mean I can't appreciate their skill in attacking their enemy and giving them a terrible blow.
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Keith_Valentine
04/25/17 5:34:00 PM
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That's fucked up that you can appreciate the Talibans skill in shooting unarmed men. Do you admire Osama bin Laden as well? He was quite cagey also. I bet you do.

150 men mowed down, eating their fucking lunch, more wounded.. this guy thinks it was a pretty sweet tactical blow.
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Saloonist
04/25/17 5:37:44 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
That's fucked up that you can appreciate the Talibans skill in shooting unarmed men. Do you admire Osama bin Laden as well? He was quite cagey also. I bet you do.

150 men mowed down, eating their fucking lunch, more wounded.. this guy thinks it was a pretty sweet tactical blow.

If I admire bin Laden for anything, it would be eluding the most powerful nation in the world for over 20 years despite numerous attempts on his life
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Sativa_Rose
04/25/17 5:38:46 PM
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This is like something out of a movie. It also shows how terrible of an idea it was for the US to ever try to get rid of this guys and prop up a new government in Afghanistan. We should've been in and out just to knock out al Qaeda after 9/11
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E32005
04/25/17 5:46:20 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
This is like something out of a movie. It also shows how terrible of an idea it was for the US to ever try to get rid of this guys and prop up a new government in Afghanistan. We should've been in and out just to knock out al Qaeda after 9/11

well you cant just knock out al qaeda but i get what you're saying.

i think what fucked us over in Afg was Iraq. we never should have been there, and all our resources should have stayed in Afg.
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Crazyman93
04/25/17 5:49:43 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
>national army base
>no weapons in sight

i mean come on

I'd like to point out the same thing has happened to the US Army bases at least twice. Not that the Afghani Army isn't incompetent for letting this happen but...
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Saloonist
04/25/17 5:51:06 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
This reminds me of when Viking raiders would raid British towns on Sunday morning because they knew most of the resistance would be praying at the church spinarak

The church spinarak huh
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Kazi1212
04/25/17 5:52:25 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
Saloonist posted...
fan357 posted...
If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.

Meh I'm not really going to argue about this, but to me catching your enemy off guard and killing scores of them while suffering minimal casualties seems fairly skillful



They are defected soldiers who used their insider knowledge of a base to attack while men were mostly eating and praying. If that is admirable, in any way, to you..? @tc then you're just a fool and you sicken me


Meh the Taliban doesn't exactly have qualms about how they kill people, they're just looking to do it in the most efficient manner possible, which is exactly what they did here, hence elite. I couldn't have pulled of this kind of efficient infiltration even in a MGS game
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iosifsvoboda
04/25/17 5:55:31 PM
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Remember when George Washington attacked the hessians on Christmas when they were all drunk
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Saloonist
04/25/17 5:56:57 PM
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iosifsvoboda posted...
Remember when George Washington attacked the hessians on Christmas when they were all drunk

Fucking terrorist
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Saloonist
04/25/17 5:59:28 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Keith_Valentine posted...
Saloonist posted...
fan357 posted...
If I know a guy who's an idiot and a pussy and I decide to mug him because I know he won't put up a fight that doesn't make me elite. It makes me a coward for taking on someone who isn't a threat.

Meh I'm not really going to argue about this, but to me catching your enemy off guard and killing scores of them while suffering minimal casualties seems fairly skillful



They are defected soldiers who used their insider knowledge of a base to attack while men were mostly eating and praying. If that is admirable, in any way, to you..? @tc then you're just a fool and you sicken me


Meh the Taliban doesn't exactly have qualms about how they kill people, they're just looking to do it in the most efficient manner possible, which is exactly what they did here, hence elite. I couldn't have pulled of this kind of efficient infiltration even in a MGS game

And let's be serious, this wasn't even a case of the Taliban killing civilians like they normally do. They caught legitimate targets unaware and engaged them. That's a legitimate war act.
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Mal_Fet
04/25/17 6:05:29 PM
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I didn't know Ramsey Bolton was in the Taliban
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fan357
04/25/17 6:10:58 PM
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iosifsvoboda posted...
Remember when George Washington attacked the hessians on Christmas when they were all drunk

Iirc he didn't fire one shot at that "battle". He surrounded them and they gave up. He didn't march in and blow himself up like a coward. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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fan357
04/25/17 6:48:21 PM
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So it looks like 22 were killed and he captured the rest. Still not a cowardly act.
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iosifsvoboda
04/25/17 8:40:02 PM
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fan357 posted...
iosifsvoboda posted...
Remember when George Washington attacked the hessians on Christmas when they were all drunk

Iirc he didn't fire one shot at that "battle". He surrounded them and they gave up. He didn't march in and blow himself up like a coward. Correct me if I'm wrong.


I believe you are wrong because the casualties for the battle include 20 killed and 80 wounded. They captured 900 of them though.

I believe the difference that America offered all those prisoners land while if the taliban took 900 prisoners they not offer them land
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Saloonist
04/25/17 9:05:15 PM
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Update:

This attack has led to the resignation of the top 2 Afghan military officials: the defense minister and the army chief of staff.

Apparently the US is considering redepolying 3000-5000 soldiers to Afghanistan in response.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/24/world/asia/afghanistan-taliban-defense-minister-resigns.html?_r=0
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Saloonist
04/25/17 9:28:42 PM
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bump
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Crazyman93
04/26/17 2:31:28 AM
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Saloonist posted...
This attack has led to the resignation of the top 2 Afghan military officials: the defense minister and the army chief of staff.

"We're so fucking embarrassed by this disaster we don't deserve to lead the army."
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Funkdamental
04/26/17 3:36:46 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
That's fucked up that you can appreciate the Talibans skill in shooting unarmed men. Do you admire Osama bin Laden as well? He was quite cagey also. I bet you do.

150 men mowed down, eating their fucking lunch, more wounded.. this guy thinks it was a pretty sweet tactical blow.


Whereas snipers working in secret and at a distance, or air crews who drop bombs from high altitude, only ever hit enemies who are pointing guns at them; and they always give their targets a fighting chance to defend themselves against the attack.

I understand why you feel the way you do, but it'd be naïve to imagine that our bombs and shells have never killed unarmed enemy soldiers who were eating, sleeping, taking a shit, or recovering from wounds.
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Rika_Furude
04/26/17 3:45:28 AM
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Lorenzo_2003
04/26/17 3:54:19 AM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
This reminds me of when Viking raiders would raid British towns on Sunday morning because they knew most of the resistance would be praying at the church spinarak


How dare you imply that prayer does not protect the devout from those who wish them harm! Next you're going to tell me some fiction about churches, mosques and synagogues sometimes collapsing on their congregations while they are attending service.
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HiddenRoar
04/26/17 4:12:14 AM
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Damn, who would have guess that letting newly reformed security organizations fend for themselves against veteran terrorist groups would be a good idea.
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