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UnholyMudcrab 04/21/17 4:11:39 PM #152:	150 posts. Congratulations to everyone who has participated --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:877641408] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>150 posts. Congratulations to everyone who has participated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 04/21/17 4:11:54 PM #154:	fenderbender321 posted... And why is a racially motivated offense deserving of more punishment? Because America is a melting pot of cultures and trying to install fear into a culture because you're a racist asshole is worse than just being an asshole in the heat of the moment. It helps our justice system determine who's a bigger threat to society, without it we'd be labeling all crimes as terrorism --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:877641430] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>And why is a racially motivated offense deserving of more punishment?</quote> Because America is a melting pot of cultures and trying to install fear into a culture because you're a racist asshole is worse than just being an asshole in the heat of the moment. It helps our justice system determine who's a bigger threat to society, without it we'd be labeling all crimes as terrorism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/21/17 4:12:29 PM #155:	DifferentialEquation posted... s because often times I'm intellectually Stop reading right there. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:877641459] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>s because often times I'm intellectually</quote> Stop reading right there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 04/21/17 4:15:26 PM #157:	ClunkerSlim posted... Azarias posted... yolo county, seriously? To be honest, it's not really that much more different than a burning cross. Nobody is afraid the burning cross is going to burn their house down. It's the symbolism. So it's not as much about the "bacon" as it is the symbolism of the bacon. ^ And yes, I'm aware that sounds stupid because it's "bacon." But replace the "bacon" with something else that a group of people find offensive and you'll see it. I don't think so. Burning cross as a symbol meant we will be back to hang you and kill you. A random piece of bacon doesn't say that. There is no history of a group leaving a piece of bacon then later coming and killing everyone in the mosque. It is more akin to a man giving you the middle finger. You know they dislike you, but there isn't anymore promise of killing or abusing you. --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:877641631] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClunkerSlim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Azarias posted...</cite> <quote>yolo county, seriously?</quote> To be honest, it's not really that much more different than a burning cross. Nobody is afraid the burning cross is going to burn their house down. It's the symbolism. So it's not as much about the "bacon" as it is the symbolism of the bacon. ^ And yes, I'm aware that sounds stupid because it's "bacon." But replace the "bacon" with something else that a group of people find offensive and you'll see it.</quote> I don't think so. Burning cross as a symbol meant we will be back to hang you and kill you. A random piece of bacon doesn't say that. There is no history of a group leaving a piece of bacon then later coming and killing everyone in the mosque. It is more akin to a man giving you the middle finger. You know they dislike you, but there isn't anymore promise of killing or abusing you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 04/21/17 4:20:10 PM #159:	fenderbender321 posted... All those variables can be applied to hate crimes as well. I never said they couldn't. fenderbender321 posted... And okay, so why should race and religion be reasons to punish somebody more severely? CableZL posted... Danger to an individual because of the individual's action vs danger to a group because of something they cannot control. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:877641911] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>All those variables can be applied to hate crimes as well. </quote> I never said they couldn't. <cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>And okay, so why should race and religion be reasons to punish somebody more severely?</quote> <cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>Danger to an individual because of the individual's action vs danger to a group because of something they cannot control.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 04/21/17 4:22:15 PM #160:	You are doing a specific thing to a specific group of people for the sake of antagonizing them. Not sure how it's not a hate crime. --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:877642038] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>You are doing a specific thing to a specific group of people for the sake of antagonizing them. Not sure how it's not a hate crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 04/21/17 4:22:46 PM #161:	if the trump sign burning is a hate crime this is too and vice versa --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:877642067] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>if the trump sign burning is a hate crime this is too and vice versa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 04/21/17 4:24:24 PM #163:	Ammonitida posted... https://heatst.com/culture-wars/california-woman-admits-to-hate-crime-after-leaving-bacon-in-mosque/ A California woman faces up to six years in prison after admitting that she broke windows and left bacon at a mosque near Sacramento. The Yolo County District Attorney’s Office said 30-year-old Lauren Kirk-Coehlo of Davis pleaded guilty to all charges on Wednesday. YOLO --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:877642174] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>https://heatst.com/culture-wars/california-woman-admits-to-hate-crime-after-leaving-bacon-in-mosque/ <quote>A California woman faces up to six years in prison after admitting that she broke windows and left bacon at a mosque near Sacramento. The Yolo County District Attorney’s Office said 30-year-old Lauren Kirk-Coehlo of Davis pleaded guilty to all charges on Wednesday.</quote></quote> YOLO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 04/21/17 4:24:52 PM #164:	fenderbender321 posted... So then why don't you agree with punishing somebody much more severely if they randomly punch one person on the street? Because if they do that, and we use the same logic/reasoning that is applied those who commit hate crimes, then we would conclude that they at risk to randomly punch ANYONE in their vicinity just for existing. Shouldn't that be a hate crime as well? You're going circles, dude... Again, hate crime has a specific definition. If a person's violence logically puts a group in danger, then it should be punished more severely than if the person's violence puts an individual in danger. It just wouldn't be a hate crime unless it fits the definition. I'm going in circles at all. You're the one repeatedly changing the situation. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:877642203] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>So then why don't you agree with punishing somebody much more severely if they randomly punch one person on the street? Because if they do that, and we use the same logic/reasoning that is applied those who commit hate crimes, then we would conclude that they at risk to randomly punch ANYONE in their vicinity just for existing. Shouldn't that be a hate crime as well? You're going circles, dude...</quote> Again, hate crime has a specific definition. If a person's violence logically puts a group in danger, then it should be punished more severely than if the person's violence puts an individual in danger. It just wouldn't be a hate crime unless it fits the definition. I'm going in circles at all. You're the one repeatedly changing the situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 04/21/17 4:33:21 PM #166:	fenderbender321 posted... A broken window is a broken window. You still have to replace them. And like I said earlier, somebody who breaks windows for religious reasons isn't a bigger threat to society than somebody who breaks windows for the thrill of it. They both break windows. the broken window isnt the only issue in this instance. One dude is breaking a window because he's an asshole The other is targeting people of a certain race/religion/sex and specifically breaking windows to install fear into that community. They are both charged with breaking the windows but the hate crime is charged more harshly because of the thought and premeditation that goes into the act. One is a bigger danger to the community based off the one act. If the first guy who's doing it at random goes out and continues to do it then he is a bigger threat to someone who only does it once. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:877642772] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>A broken window is a broken window. You still have to replace them. And like I said earlier, somebody who breaks windows for religious reasons isn't a bigger threat to society than somebody who breaks windows for the thrill of it. They both break windows.</quote> the broken window isnt the only issue in this instance. One dude is breaking a window because he's an asshole The other is targeting people of a certain race/religion/sex and specifically breaking windows to install fear into that community. They are both charged with breaking the windows but the hate crime is charged more harshly because of the thought and premeditation that goes into the act. One is a bigger danger to the community based off the one act. If the first guy who's doing it at random goes out and continues to do it then he is a bigger threat to someone who only does it once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RIP_Supa 04/21/17 4:34:25 PM #167:	Well she obviously did it to annoy those people out of some form of hatred for their beliefs, otherwise there is literally no reason to do that. If that doesn't apply as a hate crime what does? This is a serious question as no one takes the "hate crime" definition seriously <cite>RIP_Supa posted [p:877642834] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>Well she obviously did it to annoy those people out of some form of hatred for their beliefs, otherwise there is literally no reason to do that. If that doesn't apply as a hate crime what does? This is a serious question as no one takes the "hate crime" definition seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 04/21/17 4:35:05 PM #168:	The Eternal Flame posted... Six years in prison for breaking windows? Because let's be honest, that's the only crime here. how dare you insult the beauty that is Islam --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:877642884] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Eternal Flame posted...</cite> <quote>Six years in prison for breaking windows? Because let's be honest, that's the only crime here.</quote> how dare you insult the beauty that is Islam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 04/21/17 4:36:52 PM #170:	fenderbender321 posted... If breaking windows is bad...and I agree it is...then the same level of fear should be instilled into the community, because nobody wants broken windows regardless of why they're doing it. thats true all crime is a fear inducing, but the hate crime is that they are doing it on purpose to a specific group of people. Premeditated acts are always going to be judged harsher than an act of whim --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:877643003] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>If breaking windows is bad...and I agree it is...then the same level of fear should be instilled into the community, because nobody wants broken windows regardless of why they're doing it.</quote> thats true all crime is a fear inducing, but the hate crime is that they are doing it on purpose to a specific group of people. Premeditated acts are always going to be judged harsher than an act of whim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 04/21/17 4:41:00 PM #171:	fenderbender321 posted... Anyone who commits a crime is at risk to commit that same crime again to other people. Not necessarily. Motive is an important factor in determining the correct charge for a crime. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:877643218] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who commits a crime is at risk to commit that same crime again to other people.</quote> Not necessarily. Motive is an important factor in determining the correct charge for a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 04/21/17 4:42:28 PM #173:	fenderbender321 posted... Well it sounds like the so-called experts that decided these things are wrong. The system isnt perfect but you're seeing it as a black and white issue when its not --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:877643318] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Well it sounds like the so-called experts that decided these things are wrong.</quote> The system isnt perfect but you're seeing it as a black and white issue when its not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haldol 04/21/17 4:42:37 PM #174:	She is a not a piece of shit. She is a shit smear <cite>Haldol posted [p:877643331] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>She is a not a piece of shit. She is a shit smear</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 04/21/17 4:42:49 PM #175:	CableZL has the patience of a saint. I've never seen someone spend this much time calmly trying to explain something simple to a complete fucking idiot. Give that guy a medal. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:877643344] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>CableZL has the patience of a saint. I've never seen someone spend this much time calmly trying to explain something simple to a complete fucking idiot. Give that guy a medal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hulk_Krogan 04/21/17 5:09:56 PM #176:	Six years for a vandalism case? That's insane, brother. No wonder why California's prisons are overflowing. --- Large arms, large heart <cite>Hulk_Krogan posted [p:877644949] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>Six years for a vandalism case? That's insane, brother. No wonder why California's prisons are overflowing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltonBrownFan 04/21/17 5:11:26 PM #177:	Hulk_Krogan posted... Six years for a vandalism case? That's insane, brother. No wonder why California's prisons are overflowing. Lock the bigots up --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877645043] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hulk_Krogan posted...</cite> <quote>Six years for a vandalism case? That's insane, brother. No wonder why California's prisons are overflowing.</quote> Lock the bigots up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/21/17 5:18:40 PM #178:	6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:877645490] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltonBrownFan 04/21/17 6:00:46 PM #179:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... 6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877647992] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off</quote> Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/21/17 6:03:22 PM #180:	Ammonitida posted... The Yolo County Really? Anyway, good. She was being a dick completely unprovoked. She knew what she was doing was asinine, not to mention illegal, and she did it anyway. What a troll. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:877648130] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>The Yolo County</quote> Really? Anyway, good. She was being a dick completely unprovoked. She knew what she was doing was asinine, not to mention illegal, and she did it anyway. What a troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 04/21/17 6:05:04 PM #181:	She should only get in trouble for breaking windows and wasting a good bacon. Hate crimes are a stupid idea. --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:877648229] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>She should only get in trouble for breaking windows and wasting a good bacon. Hate crimes are a stupid idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 04/21/17 6:08:38 PM #182:	wait do you really get 6 years for breaking windows? <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:877648435] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>wait do you really get 6 years for breaking windows?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/21/17 6:09:04 PM #183:	AltonBrownFan posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... 6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime. But who would hate bacon so much as to do something like that to it? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:877648461] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off</quote> Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime.</quote> But who would hate bacon so much as to do something like that to it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/21/17 6:09:35 PM #184:	Milkman5 posted... wait do you really get 6 years for breaking windows? No you get it for commiting a hate crime. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:877648494] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>wait do you really get 6 years for breaking windows?</quote> No you get it for commiting a hate crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltonBrownFan 04/21/17 6:11:25 PM #185:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... AltonBrownFan posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... 6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime. But who would hate bacon so much as to do something like that to it? I know man. People tossing bacon all over the place need to be locked up for life, or tossed into a volcano. Whichever is cheaper. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877648608] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> 6 years just for minor vandalism and wasting food? Damn, I mean yes bacon is delicious and one should be punished more severely for wasting it than other less delicious foods, but 6 years? Edit: autocorrect on new phone is pissing me off </quote> Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime.</quote> But who would hate bacon so much as to do something like that to it?</quote> I know man. People tossing bacon all over the place need to be locked up for life, or tossed into a volcano. Whichever is cheaper.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 04/21/17 6:16:08 PM #186:	AltonBrownFan posted... Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime. lol, I'm surprised I haven't seen this before now --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:877648879] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote>Can't do the time, don't commit the hate crime. </quote> lol, I'm surprised I haven't seen this before now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
giantblimpN7 04/21/17 6:19:38 PM #187:	Actually YOLO county --- http://i.imgur.com/zSHmk.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qT9WxSu.png <cite>giantblimpN7 posted [p:877649089] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>Actually YOLO county</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 04/21/17 10:17:02 PM #188:	Hulk_Krogan posted... Six years for a vandalism case? That's insane, brother. No wonder why California's prisons are overflowing. I think that's only the maximum. --- Russian Agent http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1477/86/1477860281404.jpg <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:877661137] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hulk_Krogan posted...</cite> <quote>Six years for a vandalism case? That's insane, brother. No wonder why California's prisons are overflowing.</quote> I think that's only the maximum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haldol 04/21/17 11:48:58 PM #189:	Milkman5 posted... wait do you really get 6 years for breaking windows? I'm sure you do if you break into someone's home or space yea <cite>Haldol posted [p:877665660] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>wait do you really get 6 years for breaking windows?</quote> I'm sure you do if you break into someone's home or space yea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Microwaved_Eggs 04/21/17 11:59:24 PM #190:	Ammonitida posted... Yolo County --- No rights reserved. <cite>Microwaved_Eggs posted [p:877666152] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>Yolo County</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 04/22/17 3:18:44 AM #191:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... Bishop9800 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it. Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"? Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that. I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:877672885] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote>There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it.</quote> Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"?</quote> Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that.</quote> I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/22/17 10:40:38 AM #192:	StealthRock posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Bishop9800 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it. Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"? Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that. I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals To a lesser extent, but it was mostly due to people getting sick from eating pork (likely parasitic infection) so banning it was mostly a health and safety issue... But yes, still not eating pork due to religion is antiquated as fuck and thus "yes" is the correct answer to the stone age question. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:877682677] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote>There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it.</quote> Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"?</quote> Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that.</quote> I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals</quote> To a lesser extent, but it was mostly due to people getting sick from eating pork (likely parasitic infection) so banning it was mostly a health and safety issue... But yes, still not eating pork due to religion is antiquated as fuck and thus "yes" is the correct answer to the stone age question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/22/17 10:41:51 AM #193:	Why does it matter if bacon is left at a mosque? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877682720] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>Why does it matter if bacon is left at a mosque?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/22/17 11:21:25 AM #194:	StealthRock posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Bishop9800 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it. Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"? Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that. I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals So just like most animals then? Even the loving family dog will eat his own shit and be dirty as fuck if you don't take care of him. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877684259] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote>There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it.</quote> Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"?</quote> Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that.</quote> I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals</quote> So just like most animals then? Even the loving family dog will eat his own shit and be dirty as fuck if you don't take care of him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/22/17 11:23:03 AM #195:	Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:877684324] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haldol 04/22/17 2:53:45 PM #196:	ScazarMeltex posted... Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here. Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face?? <cite>Haldol posted [p:877694168] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here.</quote> Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haldol 04/22/17 2:54:30 PM #197:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... StealthRock posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Bishop9800 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it. Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"? Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that. I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals So just like most animals then? Even the loving family dog will eat his own shit and be dirty as fuck if you don't take care of him. Most people don't eat dogs <cite>Haldol posted [p:877694203] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote>There are TONS of Jewish butchers that not only touch it, they prepare it. They ALSO are just not supposed to eat it.</quote> Pork is unclean in a number of religions. Some won't even touch it. So are those religions "living in the stone age"?</quote> Yes. Those laws were in a time where "pig" wasn't even the same breed we know it as today in America. Furthermore they didn't have the food cleaning and preparation methods we have today so it made much more sense back then to be funny about things like pork and shellfish. So yes, they ARE living in the stone ages if they still believe that.</quote> I think it also has to do with the perception of the animal Pigs often will eat anything. They love to roll in mud and are not very clean animals</quote> So just like most animals then? Even the loving family dog will eat his own shit and be dirty as fuck if you don't take care of him.</quote> Most people don't eat dogs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/22/17 3:07:05 PM #198:	Haldol posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here. Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face?? I was speaking more to the leaving of bacon. Breaking and Entering and vandalizing shit is always deserving of criminal prosecution. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:877694772] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Haldol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here.</quote> Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face??</quote> I was speaking more to the leaving of bacon. Breaking and Entering and vandalizing shit is always deserving of criminal prosecution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleScootaIoo 04/22/17 3:08:07 PM #199:	She should be considered a hero for standing up to evil. --- u/homelessscootaloo http://tinyurl.com/jk7uhjn <cite>LittleScootaIoo posted [p:877694820] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote>She should be considered a hero for standing up to evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltonBrownFan 04/22/17 3:10:11 PM #200:	ScazarMeltex posted... Haldol posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an a****? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here. Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face?? I was speaking more to the leaving of bacon. Breaking and Entering and vandalizing s* is always deserving of criminal prosecution. The breaking and entering and the leaving of bacon aren't things you separate from each other. Context is key here. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877694917] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Haldol posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote> Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an a****? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here. </quote> Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face??</quote> I was speaking more to the leaving of bacon. Breaking and Entering and vandalizing s* is always deserving of criminal prosecution.</quote> The breaking and entering and the leaving of bacon aren't things you separate from each other. Context is key here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/22/17 9:21:06 PM #201:	ScazarMeltex posted... Haldol posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here. Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face?? I was speaking more to the leaving of bacon. Breaking and Entering and vandalizing shit is always deserving of criminal prosecution. Leaving bacon anywhere doesnt deserve a punch in the face... --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877712858] in Cali Woman... [t:75263557]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Haldol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Should she get punched in the face for intentionally being an asshole? Yes. Jail time seems a bit excessive though here.</quote> Not really She broke into a mosque That's illegal. If someone broke into your place and vandalized would you be satisfied with just punching them in the face??</quote> I was speaking more to the leaving of bacon. Breaking and Entering and vandalizing shit is always deserving of criminal prosecution.</quote> Leaving bacon anywhere doesnt deserve a punch in the face...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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