Current Events > ppl upset over white woman cast as the mummy monster?

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Asherlee10 posted...

P01ntyDmonspank posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Also, I didn't think Egyptians were black, I thought they were more akin to middle eastern people?

I think generally ancient egyptians were of a very diverse ethnic grouping. There was the classic Hollywood Egyptian look, also some greek in there, the current more "middle-eastern" look, but I'm pretty sure that some of the south/western dynasties were also considered to be ruled by people of a more Nubian complexion.

As it turns out, no one really knows. Seems like it's been a controversy for a long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy

The controversy is mostly recent sparked by biased afro-centrists. Pretty much every ancient writer who came into contact with Egyptians could tell them from other peoples. From Assyrian kings and Judean writers to even the ancient Greeks; the Greeks commonly put different ethnic groups together (Assyrians/Arameans & Medes/Persians) they had no problems telling Egyptians apart from Ethiopians/Kushites
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kuwab0 posted...

I wanna get cummy with that mummy

wow!
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Dathrowed1 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P01ntyDmonspank posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Also, I didn't think Egyptians were black, I thought they were more akin to middle eastern people?

I think generally ancient egyptians were of a very diverse ethnic grouping. There was the classic Hollywood Egyptian look, also some greek in there, the current more "middle-eastern" look, but I'm pretty sure that some of the south/western dynasties were also considered to be ruled by people of a more Nubian complexion.

As it turns out, no one really knows. Seems like it's been a controversy for a long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy

The controversy is mostly recent sparked by biased afro-centrists. Pretty much every ancient writer who came into contact with Egyptians could tell them from other peoples. From Assyrian kings and Judean writers to even the ancient Greeks; the Greeks commonly put different ethnic groups together (Assyrians/Arameans & Medes/Persians) they had no problems telling Egyptians apart from Ethiopians/Kushites

That's a half-truth. By the time Greeks and Romans came into contact with the Egyptians, the greatness of Egypt had long passed and the racial composition of the population had changed dramatically. The Egyptians at that point were mostly a mix between the original black Africans who founded Egypt and the Semitic peoples that settled there at various times in history. We know that in Norther/Central Europe, the population was a lot differently genetically and phenotypically 5000 years ago than it is today. The same is true for Egypt.

And the great Ramsese III has been confirmed as a black African through testing of his Y-DNA which was E1a.
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Is she hot?
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And funny how Egyptian geneticists still refuse to give us all the details of their genetic studies on the mummies. I suspect they're afraid of letting the modern Egyptian population find out that they are not descendants of the original Egyptians, but rather the barbarian invaders and settlers that came long after Egypt's decline as a cultural and military power.
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Yeah when this raises to the level of the people people bitching about Mass Effect being too SJW let me know.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

Not that any of you children will remember, but... Boris Karloff was pretty white. So what are we talking about here?

Or that John Wayne isn't Mongolian. Or Yul Brynner isn't Egyptian.

And that mummy put the M in MILF.
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cjsdowg posted...

Yeah when this raises to the level of the people people bitching about Mass Effect being too SJW let me know.

A lot of that had to do with an admitted racist who worked on the game.
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EggplantParm posted...

She's not even white.

But not suprised that it comes from the "non-racists that are against racism."

This.

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Neoconkers posted...

literally algerian.

So if Charlize Theron was the Mummy, that makes it ok?

Didn't know that Algeria and South Africa were the same country now.
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garan posted...

EggplantParm posted...

She's not even white.

But not suprised that it comes from the "non-racists that are against racism."

This.

It's still a form of whitewashing. Hollywood continues to deny the principle role that black Africans played in making Ancient Egypt the wonder that it was. It has shifted from actual white people ruling Egypt to "off-white" North Africans.
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Ammonitida posted...

garan posted...

EggplantParm posted...

She's not even white.

But not suprised that it comes from the "non-racists that are against racism."

This.

It's still a form of whitewashing. Hollywood continues to deny the principle role that black Africans played in making Ancient Egypt the wonder that it was. It has shifted from actual white people ruling Egypt to "off-white" North Africans.

Nope. It would be middle-eastern washing.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P01ntyDmonspank posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Also, I didn't think Egyptians were black, I thought they were more akin to middle eastern people?

I think generally ancient egyptians were of a very diverse ethnic grouping. There was the classic Hollywood Egyptian look, also some greek in there, the current more "middle-eastern" look, but I'm pretty sure that some of the south/western dynasties were also considered to be ruled by people of a more Nubian complexion.

As it turns out, no one really knows. Seems like it's been a controversy for a long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy

That article is so biased. It leaves out recent DNA findings which prove that Ramsese III was black.

Feel free to update the wiki page with verified info.

I don't know how, but this information is included on this wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historic_people

In December 2012, a genetic study conducted by the same researchers who decoded King Tutankhamun's DNA found that Ramesses III, second pharaoh of the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt and considered to be the last great New Kingdom regent to wield any substantial authority over Egypt, belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup E-V38, alternatively known as haplogroup E1b1a.[38]

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garan posted...

EggplantParm posted...

She's not even white.

But not suprised that it comes from the "non-racists that are against racism."

This.

Please point out examples of this supposed outrage, because I've yet to see any provided.
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boxington posted...

kuwab0 posted...

I wanna get cummy with that mummy

wow!

I wanna fuck that Mummy
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We wuz kangs.
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Ammonitida posted...

That's a half-truth. By the time Greeks and Romans came into contact with the Egyptians, the greatness of Egypt had long passed and the racial composition of the population had changed dramatically. The Egyptians at that point were mostly a mix between the original black Africans who founded Egypt and the Semitic peoples that settled there at various times in history. We know that in Norther/Central Europe, the population was a lot differently genetically and phenotypically 5000 years ago than it is today. The same is true for Egypt.

Even if this were true (DNA tests show Egyptians weren't too affected by foreign invadors, ethnically), it doesn't explain how the Assyrians and Judeans distinguished an Ethiopian from an Egyptian. Or even the Egyptians themselves.

Ammonitida posted...

And the great Ramsese III has been confirmed as a black African through testing of his Y-DNA which was E1a.

It would only confirm that he likely had a black ancestor somewhere down the line. By this logic my cousins who are black would be considered Chinese because of their Y-chromosome DNA. Actually I looked up the Y chromosome data, it is found in Egypt and North Africa (or Libyans) populations and relatively low frequencies, it is also found in peoples of the Arabian peninsula.
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Delta_F14 posted...

We wuz kangs.

In addition to its widespread usage on /pol/, the phrase has been also adopted by detractors of Pan-Africanism on other discussion forums, including white supremacist and nationalist websites.

Interesting. Tagging.
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Delta_F14 posted...


CEfront confirmed
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Asherlee10 posted...

P01ntyDmonspank posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Also, I didn't think Egyptians were black, I thought they were more akin to middle eastern people?

I think generally ancient egyptians were of a very diverse ethnic grouping. There was the classic Hollywood Egyptian look, also some greek in there, the current more "middle-eastern" look, but I'm pretty sure that some of the south/western dynasties were also considered to be ruled by people of a more Nubian complexion.

As it turns out, no one really knows. Seems like it's been a controversy for a long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy

No one knows because they don't wanna know. They were of african lineage and eventually became more mixed due to invasions.

Kinda like how Nobody knows where rock and roll came from.....Maybe it was ELVIS!!
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Neoconkers posted...

literally algerian.

So if Charlize Theron was the Mummy, that makes it ok?

Didn't know that Algeria and South Africa were the same country now.

Still African right?
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Neoconkers posted...

literally algerian.

So if Charlize Theron was the Mummy, that makes it ok?

Didn't know that Algeria and South Africa were the same country now.

Still African right?

one's north africa, with a similar ecology, sharing a coast on the mediterranean, both trading and mixing with the same countries, such as Greece and being conquered by the same empires, on the whole - particularly the Romans. It's about 1,750 miles away, if I've got my measurements and maths right.

The other is none of those things, completely different ecology and very little shared history. It's around 4,500 miles away.

This is essentially me saying "Well, Alabama and Georgia aren't that different" and you going "WELL WHAT ABOUT URUGUAY?"
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Ammonitida posted...

foreveraIone posted...

She's not even white, she's way darker than I am.

Her features are not "African", as in black. If you check out social media, the only people complaining about this are black people who believe that Egyptians should be portrayed by blacks. These are not even SJWs, they're just idiots.

the ironic this about this is the even the ancient egyptians made sure to separate themselves from the sub saharan nubians
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Neoconkers posted...

one's north africa, with a similar ecology, sharing a coast on the mediterranean, both trading and mixing with the same countries, such as Greece and being conquered by the same empires, on the whole - particularly the Romans. It's about 1,750 miles away, if I've got my measurements and maths right.

you're also forgetting that North Africa is separated by a giant no-mans-land desert from the rest of Africa. Even the historic flow of human migration states that north africa was populated by the early people that traveled west from the mideast
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fire810 posted...

Neoconkers posted...

one's north africa, with a similar ecology, sharing a coast on the mediterranean, both trading and mixing with the same countries, such as Greece and being conquered by the same empires, on the whole - particularly the Romans. It's about 1,750 miles away, if I've got my measurements and maths right.

you're also forgetting that North Africa is separated by a giant no-mans-land desert from the rest of Africa. Even the historic flow of human migration states that north africa was populated by the early people that traveled west from the mideast

there's probably like 12 or so other important things I'm forgetting, but yeah, that too.
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fire810 posted...

the ironic this about this is the even the ancient egyptians made sure to separate themselves from the sub saharan nubians

Seriously, even the Egyptians had no problems distinguishing themselves from Nubians.

The Ancients knew Egyptians were Egyptians and not Ethiopians/Nubians.

Esarhaddon literally says "The root of Kush (Ethiopia/Nubia) I tore up out of Egypt".
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