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Syncronous
04/20/17 12:47:49 AM
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Pick one







Atheists don't count because they're not a religion and they can't sit at the cool kids table. Pick the one you most agree with.
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Johnny_Nutcase
04/20/17 12:48:27 AM
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None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.
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glitteringfairy
04/20/17 12:51:30 AM
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I was raised Christian so probably that. But I honestly have no idea what I am currently in life.

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04/20/17 12:52:21 AM
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 12:52:29 AM
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On a purely artistic level and nothing else, Hinduism.
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 12:56:51 AM
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Buddhism, probably, but I'm an atheist and I still have some major issues with Buddhism (such as the Blood Bowl Sutra or the defeatism of it).

I have adopted a lot of neo-pagan imagery and story in my lives, but that is because I find it artistically inspiring and I feel it's a part of my German/Scandinavian culture. For example, I wear a Thor's Hammer and am thinking of building a small shrine in my house. However that is entirely a selfish thing because I find the stories and characters inspiring, and I don't believe they do or ever have existed. Sort of the same way that Alan Moore claims to be into magic or whatever nonsense he is on about all the time.
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Syncronous
04/20/17 12:56:53 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 12:59:38 AM
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Syncronous posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?

You can't force a belief. You can force a lie however
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 1:00:21 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Buddhism, probably, but I'm an atheist and I still have some major issues with Buddhism (such as the Blood Bowl Sutra or the defeatism of it).

I think I might find Buddhism worse than Christianity at this point. Particularly Zen Buddhism which is a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.
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FroMan
04/20/17 1:00:58 AM
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Taoism.
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 1:02:22 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Buddhism, probably, but I'm an atheist and I still have some major issues with Buddhism (such as the Blood Bowl Sutra or the defeatism of it).

I think I might find Buddhism worse than Christianity at this point. Particularly Zen Buddhism which is a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.

Which sucks, because the Daoism that Zen Buddhism is based off of is probably one of the coolest, most egalitarian religions out there.

Westerners like to pretend that Buddhism is just a atheistic hippie religion, but it's pretty much just as diverse as Christianity and suffers from many of the same problems like sexism.
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FlashOfLight
04/20/17 1:03:05 AM
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First, otherwise I'd have my license removed.
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04/20/17 1:04:44 AM
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04/20/17 1:12:25 AM
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 1:12:27 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Buddhism, probably, but I'm an atheist and I still have some major issues with Buddhism (such as the Blood Bowl Sutra or the defeatism of it).

I think I might find Buddhism worse than Christianity at this point. Particularly Zen Buddhism which is a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.

Which sucks, because the Daoism that Zen Buddhism is based off of is probably one of the coolest, most egalitarian religions out there.

Westerners like to pretend that Buddhism is just a atheistic hippie religion, but it's pretty much just as diverse as Christianity and suffers from many of the same problems like sexism.

I just didn't get Zen Buddhism. And I'm fairly certain no one else does either but they are pretending to get it because it is chic.
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 1:14:35 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Buddhism, probably, but I'm an atheist and I still have some major issues with Buddhism (such as the Blood Bowl Sutra or the defeatism of it).

I think I might find Buddhism worse than Christianity at this point. Particularly Zen Buddhism which is a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.

Which sucks, because the Daoism that Zen Buddhism is based off of is probably one of the coolest, most egalitarian religions out there.

Westerners like to pretend that Buddhism is just a atheistic hippie religion, but it's pretty much just as diverse as Christianity and suffers from many of the same problems like sexism.

I just didn't get Zen Buddhism. And I'm fairly certain no one else does either but they are pretending to get it because it is chic.

Honestly, it's just Buddhism with liberal amounts of philosophy stolen from Daoism and a decent Shinto influence. I may be wrong, but it always struck me as a way for the incredibly nationalistic and violent Samurai to reconcile their violent lives with the concept of Mahayana Buddhism.
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Syncronous
04/20/17 1:27:48 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?

You can't force a belief. You can force a lie however

Well, you could either lie and pick the religion that most suits your morals and lifestyle, or you could get your head blown off.
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 1:47:17 AM
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Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?

You can't force a belief. You can force a lie however

Well, you could either lie and pick the religion that most suits your morals and lifestyle, or you could get your head blown off.

The bold is not what's at stake here. You're basically just asking him to lie at this point. So one lie is as good as any. And not really interesting to hear.
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Syncronous
04/20/17 1:50:47 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?

You can't force a belief. You can force a lie however

Well, you could either lie and pick the religion that most suits your morals and lifestyle, or you could get your head blown off.

The bold is not what's at stake here. You're basically just asking him to lie at this point. So one lie is as good as any. And not really interesting to hear.

You forgot to bold the part where I said "lie". If you would rather die than lie then that's your prerogative.
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Verdekal
04/20/17 1:51:17 AM
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Praise be to Yevon.
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 1:52:02 AM
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Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?

You can't force a belief. You can force a lie however

Well, you could either lie and pick the religion that most suits your morals and lifestyle, or you could get your head blown off.

The bold is not what's at stake here. You're basically just asking him to lie at this point. So one lie is as good as any. And not really interesting to hear.

You forgot to bold the part where I said "lie". If you would rather die than lie then that's your prerogative.

He's already said none of them fit his prerogative. So he's obviously going to have to lie. You can't point a gun at someone to make them believe in something. That's not how the human mind works. Or guns either, for that matter.
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Syncronous
04/20/17 2:04:11 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

You have a gun to your head and you have to pick one. Are you willing to die for your lack of belief?

You can't force a belief. You can force a lie however

Well, you could either lie and pick the religion that most suits your morals and lifestyle, or you could get your head blown off.

The bold is not what's at stake here. You're basically just asking him to lie at this point. So one lie is as good as any. And not really interesting to hear.

You forgot to bold the part where I said "lie". If you would rather die than lie then that's your prerogative.

He's already said none of them fit his prerogative. So he's obviously going to have to lie. You can't point a gun at someone to make them believe in something. That's not how the human mind works. Or guns either, for that matter.

You must have poor reading comprehension. Yes, he will have to lie. Or die. If atheists can't even process a hypothetical scenario about believing in something then it's no wonder you don't believe in anything.
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chill02
04/20/17 2:05:06 AM
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yep, I'm on CE
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FlashOfLight
04/20/17 2:05:12 AM
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Guys, use a new quote block for crying aloud.
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 2:05:22 AM
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Syncronous posted...
You must have poor reading comprehension. Yes, he will have to lie. Or die. If atheists can't even process a hypothetical scenario about believing in something then it's no wonder you don't believe in anything.

I never said I was an atheist, so who has the poor reading comprehension again?
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Syncronous
04/20/17 2:09:04 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
You must have poor reading comprehension. Yes, he will have to lie. Or die. If atheists can't even process a hypothetical scenario about believing in something then it's no wonder you don't believe in anything.

I never said I was an atheist, so who has the poor reading comprehension again?

You do, as stated in my previous post. I can only assume you're an atheist to argue such a trivial point, or to argue on behalf of another atheist for that matter.
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wah_wah_wah
04/20/17 2:11:06 AM
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Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
You must have poor reading comprehension. Yes, he will have to lie. Or die. If atheists can't even process a hypothetical scenario about believing in something then it's no wonder you don't believe in anything.

I never said I was an atheist, so who has the poor reading comprehension again?

You do, as stated in my previous post. I can only assume you're an atheist to argue such a trivial point, or to argue on behalf of another atheist for that matter.

I mean it takes two to tango dude. I'm just informing you of the pointlessness of your request. "Which random lie would you pick?" I mean who cares? But I digress.
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Syncronous
04/20/17 2:15:54 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Syncronous posted...
You must have poor reading comprehension. Yes, he will have to lie. Or die. If atheists can't even process a hypothetical scenario about believing in something then it's no wonder you don't believe in anything.

I never said I was an atheist, so who has the poor reading comprehension again?

You do, as stated in my previous post. I can only assume you're an atheist to argue such a trivial point, or to argue on behalf of another atheist for that matter.

I mean it takes two to tango dude. I'm just informing you of the pointlessness of your request. "Which random lie would you pick?" I mean who cares? But I digress.

You can base the lie on any criteria you want. "What if there was definitive proof of a god. Which religon would I go with?" "What if religions were fraternities and I wanted to make some new friends. Which frat would I join?"

Christ, do atheists have any creativity at all?
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CountCristoph
04/20/17 2:38:25 AM
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Islam.
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booboy
04/20/17 3:00:52 AM
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Gun to my family's head decision, I'd say Christianity.

The only five books from the Bible I'd even remotely endorse are Proverbs and the four gospels.
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Syncronous
04/20/17 4:51:21 PM
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Bump
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ROBANN_88
04/20/17 5:10:49 PM
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Scientology is belief in the Scientific process, right?

i mesn, why else would they call it that?
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 7:09:39 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Scientology is belief in the Scientific process, right?

i mesn, why else would they call it that?


Because it was created by a science fiction writer.
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alt_no_1_loves
04/20/17 7:13:05 PM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
None. There's nothing to identify with. Might as well believe in scoooobyy doooo.

This sounds like a great idea
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BallerXRosetta-
04/20/17 7:13:47 PM
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Christianity since it promotes right wing beliefs on social issues and left on economics.
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GigaSPX
04/20/17 7:20:24 PM
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I'm surprised Buddhism is actually second most voted here. I consider myself Buddhist, but I didn't know which practice is the one I follow is officially titled as. Theravāda Buddhism...Hmm.
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organicbamf
04/20/17 7:21:58 PM
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GigaSPX posted...
I'm surprised Buddhism is actually second most voted here. I consider myself Buddhist, but I didn't know which practice is the one I follow is officially titled as. Theravāda Buddhism...Hmm.


why theravada over mahayana?
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 7:22:24 PM
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GigaSPX posted...
I'm surprised Buddhism is actually second most voted here. I consider myself Buddhist, but I didn't know which practice is the one I follow is officially titled as. Theravāda Buddhism...Hmm.


Where you raised Buddhist? Do you go to a temple or follow any of the practices? Which set of gods do you believe in?
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Blue_Dream87
04/20/17 8:06:30 PM
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I'm not religious, but Buddhism, Taoism and Bahai have strongly influenced my spiritual views. I'd credit Buddhism the most since I did a lot of studying/introspection by going to a Buddhist monastery.
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kel854
04/20/17 8:09:41 PM
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Eh.
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JlM
04/20/17 8:13:07 PM
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The closest thing to religion I have is hiking in the woods. Does that make my answer Buddhism? Whatever.

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GigaSPX
04/20/17 9:01:47 PM
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organicbamf posted...
GigaSPX posted...
I'm surprised Buddhism is actually second most voted here. I consider myself Buddhist, but I didn't know which practice is the one I follow is officially titled as. Theravāda Buddhism...Hmm.


why theravada over mahayana?

It's the temple I mainly attend I guess? It's in Kissimmee, Florida and I've been going to that for a long time with my family and we are well associated with the head monk there who has been there for a very long time now. Even remembers when my mom first came there.

Dash_Harber posted...
GigaSPX posted...
I'm surprised Buddhism is actually second most voted here. I consider myself Buddhist, but I didn't know which practice is the one I follow is officially titled as. Theravāda Buddhism...Hmm.


Where you raised Buddhist? Do you go to a temple or follow any of the practices? Which set of gods do you believe in?

Read above quote. The only thing about me is that while I practice Buddhism, I never went deep into thinking about all these "sets of gods" and all. I do meditation and following guidelines, but I don't know...
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 10:30:27 PM
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GigaSPX posted...

Read above quote. The only thing about me is that while I practice Buddhism, I never went deep into thinking about all these "sets of gods" and all. I do meditation and following guidelines, but I don't know...


Ah, I see. Gods are such an intricate part of most Buddhist Sects that I always ask. There are so many. Theravada is probably the least like that, though, since the original Theravada practitioners mostly just followed the Hindu pantheon or whatever gods they already worshiped. Buddhism and Hindu are both highly syncretic religions.
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GigaSPX
04/20/17 10:38:07 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
GigaSPX posted...

Read above quote. The only thing about me is that while I practice Buddhism, I never went deep into thinking about all these "sets of gods" and all. I do meditation and following guidelines, but I don't know...


Ah, I see. Gods are such an intricate part of most Buddhist Sects that I always ask. There are so many. Theravada is probably the least like that, though, since the original Theravada practitioners mostly just followed the Hindu pantheon or whatever gods they already worshiped. Buddhism and Hindu are both highly syncretic religions.

Oh I see. I see your earlier post that you're probably Buddhist, but atheist. Any particular reason for an answer like that? lol
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Dash_Harber
04/20/17 10:45:53 PM
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GigaSPX posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
GigaSPX posted...

Read above quote. The only thing about me is that while I practice Buddhism, I never went deep into thinking about all these "sets of gods" and all. I do meditation and following guidelines, but I don't know...


Ah, I see. Gods are such an intricate part of most Buddhist Sects that I always ask. There are so many. Theravada is probably the least like that, though, since the original Theravada practitioners mostly just followed the Hindu pantheon or whatever gods they already worshiped. Buddhism and Hindu are both highly syncretic religions.

Oh I see. I see your earlier post that you're probably Buddhist, but atheist. Any particular reason for an answer like that? lol


No, I'm not Buddhist at all. I'm an atheist. Buddhism and atheism are not really as compatible as some western adopters purport. Gods are pretty important. The origin myth of Siddhartha even includes god and goddesses being involved in the karmic system of death and rebirth.

I say they are syncretic because both religions mix well with others. Buddhism applies the concept of karma to all beings, even divine. That means gods have to behave well too if they want to have a good rebirth. In fact, the gods came down to witness Siddhartha's birth because they could use his teachings to break the karmic cycle of birth and rebirth and achieve dharma. However, it never is really specified what gods come down, so it can be mixed liberally with pretty much any non-Abrahamic fatih.

For Hinduism, they accept multiple gods, so it's sort of a no-brainer. On top of that, some schools teach that all gods are avatars of Brahma, so it doesn't matter which god or goddess you worship, so long as you accumulate positive karma. Even the god of the Christians could be another aspect of Brahma, so it doesn't matter who you are so long as you are 'good'.

If I come off aggessive though, I apologize. I honestly have little patience for dealing with the new-age types who have never set foot in a temple and know nothing about Buddhism but adopt it as their faith because it's the hip and cool thing to do.
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GigaSPX
04/21/17 12:28:17 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
GigaSPX posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
GigaSPX posted...

Read above quote. The only thing about me is that while I practice Buddhism, I never went deep into thinking about all these "sets of gods" and all. I do meditation and following guidelines, but I don't know...


Ah, I see. Gods are such an intricate part of most Buddhist Sects that I always ask. There are so many. Theravada is probably the least like that, though, since the original Theravada practitioners mostly just followed the Hindu pantheon or whatever gods they already worshiped. Buddhism and Hindu are both highly syncretic religions.

Oh I see. I see your earlier post that you're probably Buddhist, but atheist. Any particular reason for an answer like that? lol


No, I'm not Buddhist at all. I'm an atheist. Buddhism and atheism are not really as compatible as some western adopters purport. Gods are pretty important. The origin myth of Siddhartha even includes god and goddesses being involved in the karmic system of death and rebirth.

I say they are syncretic because both religions mix well with others. Buddhism applies the concept of karma to all beings, even divine. That means gods have to behave well too if they want to have a good rebirth. In fact, the gods came down to witness Siddhartha's birth because they could use his teachings to break the karmic cycle of birth and rebirth and achieve dharma. However, it never is really specified what gods come down, so it can be mixed liberally with pretty much any non-Abrahamic fatih.

For Hinduism, they accept multiple gods, so it's sort of a no-brainer. On top of that, some schools teach that all gods are avatars of Brahma, so it doesn't matter which god or goddess you worship, so long as you accumulate positive karma. Even the god of the Christians could be another aspect of Brahma, so it doesn't matter who you are so long as you are 'good'.

If I come off aggessive though, I apologize. I honestly have little patience for dealing with the new-age types who have never set foot in a temple and know nothing about Buddhism but adopt it as their faith because it's the hip and cool thing to do.

Oh no, I completely understand that last part about the new-age types. They're welcome to learn, but I've seen it a few times where they just had it as a "phase" sort of thing. Kinda ridiculous, but yeah.

I find it very interesting you know a good depth of this. Did you take classes or just learn of this for self-benefit?
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HainoRocks
04/21/17 1:56:22 AM
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I can't get on board with Buddhism's emphasis on karma. I prefer Christianity's emphasis on mercy and grace.
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Dash_Harber
04/21/17 5:54:15 PM
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GigaSPX posted...


I find it very interesting you know a good depth of this. Did you take classes or just learn of this for self-benefit?


Both. I've been reading about most religions since I left the JWs at like 14, and I've taken university level classes on Religious Studies including one that was specifically on Buddhism.
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Syncronous
04/21/17 10:33:49 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Scientology is belief in the Scientific process, right?

i mesn, why else would they call it that?

For irony.
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