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Gheb 04/19/17 12:56:03 PM #51:	meingott posted... So basically the people who work the hardest, produce the most, and don't have any kids...are keeping the country afloat for the people who work less, produce less, and have more kids than the rest. You really don't want to make having kids more financially difficult than it already is. Steady birthrates are important for a country's health. Just look at Japan, Korea, and China for issues when your population starts getting disproportionately old. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:877499083] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>So basically the people who work the hardest, produce the most, and don't have any kids...are keeping the country afloat for the people who work less, produce less, and have more kids than the rest.</quote> You really don't want to make having kids more financially difficult than it already is. Steady birthrates are important for a country's health. Just look at Japan, Korea, and China for issues when your population starts getting disproportionately old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 04/19/17 12:56:44 PM #52:	TheVipaGTS posted... ...I bet our own President didn't pay taxes either...actually, he admits to that. I would dodge taxes too if I could. Can you blame him? He even admitted he uses tax loopholes in his debate against Hillary. What idiot wouldn't? --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:877499117] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>...I bet our own President didn't pay taxes either...actually, he admits to that.</quote> I would dodge taxes too if I could. Can you blame him? He even admitted he uses tax loopholes in his debate against Hillary. What idiot wouldn't?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 12:56:51 PM #53:	Darkman124 posted... meingott posted... 17% for federal income tax for 2016, will be a good deal higher in 2017. i'm not paid on a 1099, i'm salaried. i could've swore you told me you were a contractor that was a while back. not anymore. anyway, the next time i do my taxes my income will be ~100k. i'm fully expecting that 30k will have evaporated with no refund. federal will be higher than 17%. --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877499125] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>17% for federal income tax for 2016, will be a good deal higher in 2017. i'm not paid on a 1099, i'm salaried. </quote> i could've swore you told me you were a contractor</quote> that was a while back. not anymore. anyway, the next time i do my taxes my income will be ~100k. i'm fully expecting that 30k will have evaporated with no refund. federal will be higher than 17%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 12:57:49 PM #54:	Gheb posted... meingott posted... So basically the people who work the hardest, produce the most, and don't have any kids...are keeping the country afloat for the people who work less, produce less, and have more kids than the rest. You really don't want to make having kids more financially difficult than it already is. Steady birthrates are important for a country's health. Just look at Japan, Korea, and China for issues when your population starts getting disproportionately old. sure, but the world population is growing all the same and the economy is increasingly global. a constantly growing birth rate is not sustainable, and neither is expecting single high-earners to foot the bill for all the people who choose to have children. --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877499176] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gheb posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>So basically the people who work the hardest, produce the most, and don't have any kids...are keeping the country afloat for the people who work less, produce less, and have more kids than the rest.</quote> You really don't want to make having kids more financially difficult than it already is. Steady birthrates are important for a country's health. Just look at Japan, Korea, and China for issues when your population starts getting disproportionately old.</quote> sure, but the world population is growing all the same and the economy is increasingly global. a constantly growing birth rate is not sustainable, and neither is expecting single high-earners to foot the bill for all the people who choose to have children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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REMercsChamp 04/19/17 1:00:16 PM #56:	This is great - I love supporting welfare moms and their 20 kids!!!! --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:877499312] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>This is great - I love supporting welfare moms and their 20 kids!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/19/17 1:02:02 PM #57:	Questionmarktarius posted... Simple solution: end block grants, immediately. If the fifty states can't afford it, it's fantasy to assume that all fifty can. Block grants are bad, but not for this reason. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877499418] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> Simple solution: end block grants, immediately. If the fifty states can't afford it, it's fantasy to assume that all fifty can.</quote> Block grants are bad, but not for this reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/19/17 1:03:04 PM #58:	god i hate how fucking stupid this board is sometimes --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:877499485] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>god i hate how fucking stupid this board is sometimes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:03:24 PM #59:	meingott posted... Darkman124 posted... meingott posted... 17% for federal income tax for 2016, will be a good deal higher in 2017. i'm not paid on a 1099, i'm salaried. i could've swore you told me you were a contractor that was a while back. not anymore. anyway, the next time i do my taxes my income will be ~100k. i'm fully expecting that 30k will have evaporated with no refund. federal will be higher than 17%. you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877499499] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>17% for federal income tax for 2016, will be a good deal higher in 2017. i'm not paid on a 1099, i'm salaried. </quote> i could've swore you told me you were a contractor</quote> that was a while back. not anymore. anyway, the next time i do my taxes my income will be ~100k. i'm fully expecting that 30k will have evaporated with no refund. federal will be higher than 17%.</quote> you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 04/19/17 1:03:41 PM #60:	People who have kids that they can't afford should be getting prison time, not subsidies or any other kind of aid. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:877499519] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>People who have kids that they can't afford should be getting prison time, not subsidies or any other kind of aid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:04:30 PM #61:	fenderbender321 posted... I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877499557] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal</quote> just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/19/17 1:06:13 PM #62:	Questionmarktarius posted... Webmaster4531 posted... https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/ Simple solution: end block grants, immediately. If the fifty states can't afford it, it's fantasy to assume that all fifty can. Did you read what you wrote? If the ... can't afford it, it's fantasy to assume that ... can. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877499654] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/</quote> Simple solution: end block grants, immediately. If the fifty states can't afford it, it's fantasy to assume that all fifty can.</quote> Did you read what you wrote? If the ... can't afford it, it's fantasy to assume that ... can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:06:44 PM #63:	Darkman124 posted... you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do. --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877499689] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction</quote> hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/19/17 1:08:21 PM #64:	meingott posted... Darkman124 posted... you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do. you should move to a state with a lower tax burden bro --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:877499786] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction</quote> hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do.</quote> you should move to a state with a lower tax burden bro</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:09:05 PM #65:	meingott posted... Darkman124 posted... you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do. i was a single high earner once, i know. part of the problem is you can't itemize since you don't have a mortgage. my schedule A reduces my taxable income by almost 40k. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877499833] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction</quote> hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do.</quote> i was a single high earner once, i know. part of the problem is you can't itemize since you don't have a mortgage. my schedule A reduces my taxable income by almost 40k.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 04/19/17 1:26:38 PM #67:	Balrog0 posted... you should move to a state with a lower tax burden bro But then he would have to face the fact that his salary is partially based off of cost of living and local taxes. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:877500839] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>you should move to a state with a lower tax burden bro</quote> But then he would have to face the fact that his salary is partially based off of cost of living and local taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/19/17 1:26:51 PM #68:	To be clear, the wound being discussed here is people's lives, and your proposed solution is to grind them into poverty to benefit a long-term view that hasn't really been articulated. I don't see how increasing the burden on parents now benefits society in the long run. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877500855] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>To be clear, the wound being discussed here is people's lives, and your proposed solution is to grind them into poverty to benefit a long-term view that hasn't really been articulated. I don't see how increasing the burden on parents now benefits society in the long run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/19/17 1:28:45 PM #69:	fenderbender321 posted... Darkman124 posted... fenderbender321 posted... I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene. Well luckily we aren't talking about medical shit, and that the meaning of the expression still applies to the topic at hand. :) That's the typical head in the sand response. Dark says the reality and you say your preferred reality. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877500961] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal</quote> just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene.</quote> Well luckily we aren't talking about medical shit, and that the meaning of the expression still applies to the topic at hand. :)</quote> That's the typical head in the sand response. Dark says the reality and you say your preferred reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:29:10 PM #70:	fenderbender321 posted... Darkman124 posted... fenderbender321 posted... I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene. Well luckily we aren't talking about medical shit, and that the meaning of the expression still applies to the topic at hand. :) the festering most certainly still applies. whenever a state dramatically cuts its social safety net, death rates rise, violence rises. and the rise of authoritarian leadership follows. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877500985] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal</quote> just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene.</quote> Well luckily we aren't talking about medical shit, and that the meaning of the expression still applies to the topic at hand. :)</quote> the festering most certainly still applies. whenever a state dramatically cuts its social safety net, death rates rise, violence rises. and the rise of authoritarian leadership follows.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 04/19/17 1:31:01 PM #72:	fenderbender321 posted... Darkman124 posted... fenderbender321 posted... I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene. Well luckily we aren't talking about medical shit, and that the meaning of the expression still applies to the topic at hand. :) The meaning of the expression doesn't have to do with exposing a wound, but rather that once a wound has healed there's going to be a point where you need to remove the bandage and that it's better to take it off quickly instead of a long painful process. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:877501096] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal</quote> just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene.</quote> Well luckily we aren't talking about medical shit, and that the meaning of the expression still applies to the topic at hand. :)</quote> The meaning of the expression doesn't have to do with exposing a wound, but rather that once a wound has healed there's going to be a point where you need to remove the bandage and that it's better to take it off quickly instead of a long painful process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:31:47 PM #73:	Darkman124 posted... meingott posted... Darkman124 posted... you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do. i was a single high earner once, i know. part of the problem is you can't itemize since you don't have a mortgage. my schedule A reduces my taxable income by almost 40k. omg darkman teach me to be like you. mentor me Antifar posted... To be clear, the wound being discussed here is people's lives, and your proposed solution is to grind them into poverty to benefit a long-term view that hasn't really been articulated. I don't see how increasing the burden on parents now benefits society in the long run. decrease the burden on singles --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501142] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>you should start itemizing your state tax may be more than your standard deduction</quote> hate to break it to you darkman, but single high-earners get taxed up the ass. itemizing won't help me until i have a couple properties rented out and making money. right now i'm getting taxed a lot regardless of what i do.</quote> i was a single high earner once, i know. part of the problem is you can't itemize since you don't have a mortgage. my schedule A reduces my taxable income by almost 40k.</quote> omg darkman teach me to be like you. mentor me <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>To be clear, the wound being discussed here is people's lives, and your proposed solution is to grind them into poverty to benefit a long-term view that hasn't really been articulated. I don't see how increasing the burden on parents now benefits society in the long run.</quote> decrease the burden on singles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/19/17 1:34:08 PM #75:	meingott posted... decrease the burden on singles At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity? --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877501277] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>decrease the burden on singles </quote> At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 04/19/17 1:34:56 PM #77:	meingott posted... omg darkman teach me to be like you. mentor me max your 401k pretax, max your ROTH posttax, do more charity events in your social life and less commercial events (and track the deductable part of those), track all schedule C expenses religiously, try not to turn over holdings in CMA investment porfolios frequently, and when you are confident your employment is long-term, buy a property. then deduct your state income tax, real estate tax, and mortgage interest. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877501329] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> omg darkman teach me to be like you. mentor me</quote> max your 401k pretax, max your ROTH posttax, do more charity events in your social life and less commercial events (and track the deductable part of those), track all schedule C expenses religiously, try not to turn over holdings in CMA investment porfolios frequently, and when you are confident your employment is long-term, buy a property. then deduct your state income tax, real estate tax, and mortgage interest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/19/17 1:34:56 PM #78:	It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877501330] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:35:24 PM #79:	fenderbender321 posted... People would change so much if we switched to the (better) method I'm proposing. You all always underestimate how society changes and reacts when pushed into a corner. It's like you don't respect how great and capable humans are. people would kill and eat you The Admiral posted... It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes. because those people pay their share in state, excise, local, sales, and payroll taxes. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877501362] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>People would change so much if we switched to the (better) method I'm proposing. You all always underestimate how society changes and reacts when pushed into a corner. It's like you don't respect how great and capable humans are. </quote> people would kill and eat you <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes. </quote> because those people pay their share in state, excise, local, sales, and payroll taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/19/17 1:35:49 PM #80:	The Admiral posted... It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes. Is your stance that we should tax the incomes of children and the retired? --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877501383] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes. </quote> Is your stance that we should tax the incomes of children and the retired?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:35:55 PM #81:	Antifar posted... meingott posted... decrease the burden on singles At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity? "WAAAA think of the children!!!!!111!1" at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids. --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501393] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>decrease the burden on singles </quote> At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity?</quote> "WAAAA think of the children!!!!!111!1" at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:36:51 PM #83:	meingott posted... Antifar posted... meingott posted... decrease the burden on singles At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity? "WAAAA think of the children!!!!!111!1" at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids. and what is your solution for those people we're talking about you saving less for retirement in post-tax accounts vs them not being able to make rent --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877501460] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>decrease the burden on singles </quote> At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity?</quote> "WAAAA think of the children!!!!!111!1" at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids.</quote> and what is your solution for those people we're talking about you saving less for retirement in post-tax accounts vs them not being able to make rent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:36:56 PM #84:	Darkman124 posted... meingott posted... omg darkman teach me to be like you. mentor me max your 401k pretax, max your ROTH posttax, do more charity events in your social life and less commercial events (and track the deductable part of those), track all schedule C expenses religiously, try not to turn over holdings in CMA investment porfolios frequently, and when you are confident your employment is long-term, buy a property. then deduct your state income tax, real estate tax, and mortgage interest. gonna worship this writing as my new holy scripture --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501463] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> omg darkman teach me to be like you. mentor me</quote> max your 401k pretax, max your ROTH posttax, do more charity events in your social life and less commercial events (and track the deductable part of those), track all schedule C expenses religiously, try not to turn over holdings in CMA investment porfolios frequently, and when you are confident your employment is long-term, buy a property. then deduct your state income tax, real estate tax, and mortgage interest.</quote> gonna worship this writing as my new holy scripture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/19/17 1:37:11 PM #85:	Darkman124 posted... because those people pay their share in state, excise, local, sales, and payroll taxes. ... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs not specifically funded by FICA taxes, which does not seem "fair." --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877501478] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>because those people pay their share in state, excise, local, sales, and payroll taxes.</quote> ... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs not specifically funded by FICA taxes, which does not seem "fair."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:37:20 PM #86:	meingott posted... gonna worship this writing as my new holy scripture do NOT masturbate while reading it i do not approve of that form of worship. so speaketh THE LORD. amen. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877501488] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> gonna worship this writing as my new holy scripture</quote> do NOT masturbate while reading it i do not approve of that form of worship. so speaketh THE LORD. amen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/19/17 1:37:32 PM #87:	meingott posted... if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids. So what becomes of those kids? Does their childhood poverty turn them into productive members of society, or --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877501499] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids.</quote> So what becomes of those kids? Does their childhood poverty turn them into productive members of society, or</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/19/17 1:37:56 PM #88:	The Admiral posted... It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes. Webmaster4531 posted... https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/ --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877501519] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny that liberals love throwing around the term "pay their fair share," and yet never seem to take issue with the 130 million Americans playing literally nothing in federal income taxes.</quote> <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:38:03 PM #89:	Darkman124 posted... meingott posted... Antifar posted... meingott posted... decrease the burden on singles At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity? "WAAAA think of the children!!!!!111!1" at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids. and what is your solution for those people we're talking about you saving less for retirement in post-tax accounts vs them not being able to make rent no, we're talking about me being able to support my parents when they cant work anymore vs having to pay to raise other peoples children --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501528] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>decrease the burden on singles </quote> At the expense of children? At the expense of productivity?</quote> "WAAAA think of the children!!!!!111!1" at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids.</quote> and what is your solution for those people we're talking about you saving less for retirement in post-tax accounts vs them not being able to make rent</quote> no, we're talking about me being able to support my parents when they cant work anymore vs having to pay to raise other peoples children</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:38:44 PM #90:	Darkman124 posted... meingott posted... gonna worship this writing as my new holy scripture do NOT masturbate while reading it i do not approve of that form of worship. so speaketh THE LORD. amen. fffffffff puts pants back on --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501573] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> gonna worship this writing as my new holy scripture</quote> do NOT masturbate while reading it i do not approve of that form of worship. so speaketh THE LORD. amen.</quote> fffffffff puts pants back on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:39:03 PM #91:	The Admiral posted... ... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs not specifically funded by FICA taxes, which does not seem "fair." the design of public services is that no one using them is 'freeloading' --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877501591] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs not specifically funded by FICA taxes, which does not seem "fair." </quote> the design of public services is that no one using them is 'freeloading'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:40:37 PM #92:	Antifar posted... meingott posted... if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids. So what becomes of those kids? Does their childhood poverty turn them into productive members of society, or we can still help people now while educating future generations on avoiding children if they cant afford to raise them --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501681] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids.</quote> So what becomes of those kids? Does their childhood poverty turn them into productive members of society, or</quote> we can still help people now while educating future generations on avoiding children if they cant afford to raise them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/19/17 1:40:42 PM #93:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913 1% from that first dollar, and the highest bracket was 7% <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:877501685] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913 1% from that first dollar, and the highest bracket was 7%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/19/17 1:41:10 PM #94:	The Admiral posted... ... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs, which does not seem "fair." What do you mean? Almost literally everything that state and local governments do are matched by federal dollars, so your state income and sales taxes do go towards your state's share of Medicaid, for instance, or prisons/LE money. Transit money is almost exclusively paid for through excise taxes (at all levels), so the burden is pretty equitable there, if not actually regressive. I guess you can argue that we're freeloading off of military and border security expenses but then I'm pretty liberals hate those things and want to get rid of them so how is that not ideologically consistent? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:877501712] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs, which does not seem "fair."</quote> What do you mean? Almost literally everything that state and local governments do are matched by federal dollars, so your state income and sales taxes do go towards your state's share of Medicaid, for instance, or prisons/LE money. Transit money is almost exclusively paid for through excise taxes (at all levels), so the burden is pretty equitable there, if not actually regressive. I guess you can argue that we're freeloading off of military and border security expenses but then I'm pretty liberals hate those things and want to get rid of them so how is that not ideologically consistent?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:41:38 PM #95:	Questionmarktarius posted... When the modern income tax started in 1916, the top bracket was 7%, and the lowest bracket didn't start until $20000 ($492674 in 2016). Hardly anyone paid federal income tax at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913 "BBbbbbbut think of the children!!!1111" - Antifar --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501739] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>When the modern income tax started in 1916, the top bracket was 7%, and the lowest bracket didn't start until $20000 ($492674 in 2016). Hardly anyone paid federal income tax at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913</quote> "BBbbbbbut think of the children!!!1111" - Antifar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/19/17 1:41:57 PM #96:	The Admiral posted... Darkman124 posted... because those people pay their share in state, excise, local, sales, and payroll taxes. ... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs not specifically funded by FICA taxes, which does not seem "fair." Fair does not mean equal. It also wouldn't be fair to increase the burden on the poor or penalize children for being born into that. Don't see how that would benefit society. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:877501760] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>because those people pay their share in state, excise, local, sales, and payroll taxes.</quote> ... which do not fund the same things as the federal government. Hence, they're freeloading off any federal programs not specifically funded by FICA taxes, which does not seem "fair."</quote> Fair does not mean equal. It also wouldn't be fair to increase the burden on the poor or penalize children for being born into that. Don't see how that would benefit society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/19/17 1:42:23 PM #97:	meingott posted... Questionmarktarius posted... When the modern income tax started in 1916, the top bracket was 7%, and the lowest bracket didn't start until $20000 ($492674 in 2016). Hardly anyone paid federal income tax at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913 "BBbbbbbut think of the children!!!1111" - Antifar ...actually, I screwed up. There was apparently a 1% tax at the $0-20000 bracket. [edit] ...and screwed that up. The 1% bracket started at $3000 ($73901 in 2016) <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:877501787] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>When the modern income tax started in 1916, the top bracket was 7%, and the lowest bracket didn't start until $20000 ($492674 in 2016). Hardly anyone paid federal income tax at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1913</quote> "BBbbbbbut think of the children!!!1111" - Antifar</quote> ...actually, I screwed up. There was apparently a 1% tax at the $0-20000 bracket. [edit] ...and screwed that up. The 1% bracket started at $3000 ($73901 in 2016)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/19/17 1:42:28 PM #98:	meingott posted... we can still help people now while educating future generations on avoiding children if they cant afford to raise them one great way to do that is to have a robust policy on birth control and teaching safe sex that does not produce pregnancy. it's an excellent use of tax resources which typically pays dividends. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877501791] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> we can still help people now while educating future generations on avoiding children if they cant afford to raise them </quote> one great way to do that is to have a robust policy on birth control and teaching safe sex that does not produce pregnancy. it's an excellent use of tax resources which typically pays dividends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/19/17 1:43:09 PM #99:	I'm frankly unconvinced that government tax policy is a significant contributing factor to whether people have children or not. Instead, it seems like the scourge of children is more or less an independent variable here and our tax policy is designed to help those who do have children. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877501836] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>I'm frankly unconvinced that government tax policy is a significant contributing factor to whether people have children or not. Instead, it seems like the scourge of children is more or less an independent variable here and our tax policy is designed to help those who do have children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 04/19/17 1:43:19 PM #100:	Darkman124 posted... fenderbender321 posted... People would change so much if we switched to the (better) method I'm proposing. You all always underestimate how society changes and reacts when pushed into a corner. It's like you don't respect how great and capable humans are. people would kill and eat you Underrated post. fenderbender is one of the board's dumber contrarians and all the shitposting he does has probably made him plump and delicious. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:877501846] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>People would change so much if we switched to the (better) method I'm proposing. You all always underestimate how society changes and reacts when pushed into a corner. It's like you don't respect how great and capable humans are. </quote> people would kill and eat you</quote> Underrated post. fenderbender is one of the board's dumber contrarians and all the shitposting he does has probably made him plump and delicious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/19/17 1:44:11 PM #101:	Antifar posted... I'm frankly unconvinced that government tax policy is a significant contributing factor to whether people have children or not. Instead, it seems like the scourge of children is more or less an independent variable here and our tax policy is designed to help those who do have children. the book i told you about addresses how welfare creates parasites because of how welfare traps people into remaining unemployed --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877501901] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I'm frankly unconvinced that government tax policy is a significant contributing factor to whether people have children or not. Instead, it seems like the scourge of children is more or less an independent variable here and our tax policy is designed to help those who do have children.</quote> the book i told you about addresses how welfare creates parasites because of how welfare traps people into remaining unemployed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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