Board 8 > Star Trek: The Next Character Ranking [TNCR] [Announcement Phase]

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"He's letting me know... he'll be back."
-Gul Dukat, DS9 "Call to Arms"

We always planned on a sequel. Let's make it happen before Discovery [finally] airs.

With a brand new Trek series presumably around the corner, this will be the last time the small-yet-dedicated B8 Trek crew can rank 'em all collaboratively without the rush of new faces. I figured that means we'd best get started sometime in the next month or two. I don't have an exact date in mind, but if KBM joins, I'd like to wait 'til she's finished with DS9 and Voyager. She's doing a chronological run through both shows for the very first time right now; she's on early Season 6 and early Season 4, respectively.

For now, I figured I'd just make the announcement. I don't know how many we'll rope in this time around but we had eight or nine last time. Anagram, Jesse, Cyril, Eddv, and myself offhand; I know there were more. SBell? Did he play? Sadly, I no longer have access to the old Google Doc, but maybe someone else does.

I'm thinking 50+ in the field again, including all main casts plus several recurring characters. (The lion's share of which will likely stem from DS9 and Enterprise again, I reckon. Just a matter of how the various shows tend to operate. But hey, maybe we'll get folks like Sarek in this time, too?)

Anyway, that's the gist. I don't expect much posting here in the interim, but I figured I'd toss up the announcement. If nothing else, it'll pique Anagram's interest or something. Maybe.
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Sounds good!

Maybe this time Broccoli will do better.

I am in.

Though i dont think my rankinz have changed much
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That's actually something I'm pondering. The "heart" of this topic series had a lot to do with the impassioned write-ups, but it may be tricky convincing folks to do a fresh batch of write-ups just a year and a half or so later. Might need to relax those rules or something. Hmm.
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I will definitely participate.

Jeff Zero is back!
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Did I do participate last time?

I can still only do TOS characters though. Making my slow way through the first six movies before I begin TNG
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pjbasis posted...

Making my slow way through the first six movies before I begin TNG

You could skip V and spare yourself the torture.

@Llarian has seen TOS and TNG I dunno if that helps

come to think of it so have I but she's the bigger Trekkie >_>
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I'd like to participate but I haven't seen enough of DS9 and Enterprise, so I'll just read!
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True that I've seen TOS and TNG, but only those two. Does this make me qualified to participate? This sounds like fun.
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Llarian posted...

True that I've seen TOS and TNG, but only those two. Does this make me qualified to participate? This sounds like fun.

The last time around people ranked as many characters as they wanted. Some people were only familiar with one series and just ranked those characters. I assume it'll be the same way again, which would be good because it's nice to have more people participating.

Ideally, I'd like a healthy number of folks who have seen more than just those two, but I don't think we said no to pj last time for having only seen TOS (without the movies, even) so I certainly won't say no to someone who's seen two shows, Llarian!

I'm leaning toward the beginning of July for this, btw. I know that's kind of a long time from now, but I want to give KBM plenty of time to finish the shows she's watching. She said she's actually thinking of hitting up Enterprise too once she's done with DS9.

Shad, you can spring for it, too, y'know! You should really watch DS9 to completion, though. Last few seasons are so good. At least you'll be adding some Voyager perspective, though!
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Jesse beat me to it!
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I've seen TNG and DS9 and I'm currently (very slowly) working my way through Voyager, so put me down as a solid "maybe"!
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Will do! I think I'll go ahead and formally announce that this will begin on 07.01.17. We'll discuss field size and whatnot from now until whenever.
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Jesse_Custer posted...

pjbasis posted...

Making my slow way through the first six movies before I begin TNG

You could skip V and spare yourself the torture.

So the first one is not the worst huh
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pjbasis posted...

Jesse_Custer posted...

pjbasis posted...

Making my slow way through the first six movies before I begin TNG

You could skip V and spare yourself the torture.

So the first one is not the worst huh

That one was tough to get through and it managed to make me tired of hearing the TNG theme song, but it's surprisingly a masterpiece next to V.

1 and 5 are the definite duds by any metric, though.

2-4 and 6 (especially 6, IMO) are all very good. 3 gets some flak, and I'll agree it's not as good as the rest, but it's still worth digging into.
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Do you still want people who did it last time?
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The one about humpback whales is good? I thought that was the one I was going to dread the most
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pjbasis posted...

The one about humpback whales is good?

how could it not be
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pjbasis posted...

The one about humpback whales is good? I thought that was the one I was going to dread the most

It's a good movie. The worst is debatable, but most people say the fifth movie. Personally I think the seventh is worse.
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Yeah, IV (the whale one) is really good. Not my favorite, but it's up there. I've found it's also the one Trek film that most everyone I know seems to like, including the people who aren't that into Trek.

Anagram posted...

Do you still want people who did it last time?

I always want you on my team, Anagram.

pjbasis posted...

The one about humpback whales is good? I thought that was the one I was going to dread the most

Surprisingly enough, it's a very good film. The humor is there in spades. Yes, the premise is absurd, but that's just it -- the film's a comedy. It gives the cast a more ensemble feel than TOS has ever really gotten outside the novelverse, too. Everyone has a moment or five.
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Up

Thanks, Jesse. :) I suppose we can keep this bumped for a little while. We'll probably go ahead and make a new topic a bit closer to July, though. Still a ways away!
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This open for a guy who will place Spot at #1?
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Wii would never Switch out a guy like U.
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Cool. Spoilers #1 - Spot. Last place - Porthos.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Cool. Spoilers #1 - Spot. Last place - Porthos.

Where do you rank Picard's pet fish Livingston?

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Livingston

Not enough notable appearances to warrant inclusion.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Not enough notable appearances to warrant inclusion.

He's more notable than Travis.

Jesse_Custer posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Not enough notable appearances to warrant inclusion.

He's more notable than Travis.

Do you mean MAYWEATHER?
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Oh nice!

I did some rankings last time too (unashamedly hijacked the threads lol). Would be up for getting involved again.

I remember my low Worf ranking causing some outrage.
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yellowwolley posted...

Oh nice!

I did some rankings last time too (unashamedly hijacked the threads lol). Would be up for getting involved again.

I remember my low Worf ranking causing some outrage.

Was yours the especially low Worf ranking? I think I remember that, too! Good times.
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yellowwolley posted...

I remember my low Worf ranking causing some outrage.

I guess that was me, lol. Must be that Klingon temper of mine.

I just finished The Undiscovered Country today! So I've officially watched all the original films now.
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Nice. What did you think of them?
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Jeff Zero posted...

Nice. What did you think of them?

I agree generally with the old adage that the even-numbered films are best. I really did enjoy 2, 4, and 6. ST:TMP still holds a special place in my heart, despite being boring to most. 3 was a weird movie despite the cool ending, and 5 was just a trainwreck.

Your thoughts?
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Not too far off, really. 6 is my favorite of the pack. I was quite possibly the only kid on earth back in the early-to-mid 90's who watched that movie religiously on VHS. In hindsight, I probably picked it so frequently because it was the only one we owned in official quality; the rest were all bootleg TV recordings. But whatever the reason, I sure did stick with it growing up. I love the vibe, the political tension. This no doubt prepared me to love Deep Space Nine, the most political and darkest of the Treks overall. But I've given you that rap before, so I'll spare you, ha.

2 and 4 are both really good, too. I think I like 3 more than you. It is a weird movie, there's no getting around that. I enjoy the Enterprise heist and the sorrows of Kirk losing his ship and his son in the same flick (although really, we don't get much payoff on David kicking the dirt 'til 6, but hey).

6>2>4>3>>>1>5.

The Final Frontier is a nightmare of a movie.
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