Current Events > Is everyone still upset about the Final Fantasy VII Remake?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Or are we cool now?
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We stopped caring, but it's still a piece of shit. Oh, sorry, episodic pieces of shit.
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idk how I feel about it being divided into multiple parts, but that's my only issue; I'm looking forward to the changes in gameplay.
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There will be outrage when it's released in 2030
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It isn't what we envisioned, but I'm fine with it.
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REMercsChamp posted...

There will be outrage when it's released in 2030

>implying there won't be a delay
"Please be excite."
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BLAKUboy posted...

Oh, sorry, episodic pieces of shit.

FF7 was already very "episodic".

If FF7R is parted out as a $60 game + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 etc., I'll just wait out a "complete" one. It's already been twenty years - waiting another year or two is trivial.

I hope they have a setting that fixes the battle system

I always kinda hated the idea of an FF7 remake tbh but honestly I kinda like some of the stuff they're doing with it. The episodic thing could actually be a good thing if it means they're going to flesh out the depth of the world with more sidequests and whatnot.

I dunno how to feel about the real-time combat though. Seems like they'd have to lose a lot of depth that way.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

FF7 was already very "episodic".

No it wasn't.

Questionmarktarius posted...

If FF7R is parted out as a $60 game + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 etc.

They've been very adamant every part will be a "complete game". So it'll be more like $60 + $60 + $60 + $60 etc.
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No it wasn't.

Kinda was at times. Especially on disk 1. I mean when you go to a new town or whatever, there's usually a character side story that takes a large part of the focus, or else there's a major localized problem.
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BLAKUboy posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

FF7 was already very "episodic".

No it wasn't.

Sure it is. The first part of the game is the gang locked in Midgar, doing very linear things, with the rare occasion of being able to walk backwards to a prior area. There's several "episodes" in Midgar, then the "run from a snake!" episode, then the "bigass-gun-town" episode, etc.
Sure, it's nowhere near as "episodic" as Dragonquest 7, but it's still essentially a A-B-C-D progression clustered around "Town Problem #37", with not a whole hell of a lot of side paths until disc 3.

BLAKUboy posted...

So it'll be more like $60 + $60 + $60 + $60 etc.

...and out.

DevsBro posted...

The episodic thing could actually be a good thing if it means they're going to flesh out the depth of the world with more sidequests and whatnot.

We all know any new content like that is just going to be them shoving Compilation garbage into it.
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Episodic on three discs, in one jewel case for one price released together in 1997.> Episodic on four different discs/downloads, spread out over an indiscriminate time at $X each episode.
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VectorChaos posted...

DevsBro posted...

The episodic thing could actually be a good thing if it means they're going to flesh out the depth of the world with more sidequests and whatnot.

We all know any new content like that is just going to be them shoving Compilation garbage into it.

What happens if I decide I want to go to Costa Del Sol again for some reason, but I'm playing the "underwater reactor episode"?

Questionmarktarius posted...

VectorChaos posted...

DevsBro posted...

The episodic thing could actually be a good thing if it means they're going to flesh out the depth of the world with more sidequests and whatnot.

We all know any new content like that is just going to be them shoving Compilation garbage into it.

What happens if I decide I want to go to Costa Del Sol again for some reason, but I'm playing the "underwater reactor episode"?

Oh god

That's an idea so terrible I could see squeenix doing it. Not being able to revisit areas that aren't part of your current episode.

I'm having flashbacks to Hallway Simulator Autobattle Fantasy 13 now you monster
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What happens if I decide I want to go to Costa Del Sol again for some reason, but I'm playing the "underwater reactor episode"?

That's a good thought, actually. If they were to make, as they claim, each episode "like a full game" then they'd have to completely reorganize the narrative. Afterall, you visit most places at least twice, and if the overworld, environments, characters and gameplay are all identical between episodes, that doesn't really feel like multiple full games. They'd have to focus on different environments at a minimum, which means You'd have to do both Midgar portions at once, both Junon portions at once, etc.
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VectorChaos posted...

That's an idea so terrible I could see squeenix doing it. Not being able to revisit areas that aren't part of your current episode.

Seems inevitable really, if they're parting it out over "standalone" episodes.

lol ff7 wasn't episodic
if ff7 is episodic then every book, movie, and game ever made is episodic
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...

lol ff7 wasn't episodic
if ff7 is episodic then every book, movie, and game ever made is episodic

Are you suggesting the Honeybee Inn Saga was not episodic?

BLAKUboy posted...

We stopped caring, but it's still a piece of shit. Oh, sorry, episodic pieces of shit.

Agreed. Knowing Squenix, it won't be out for another decade anyway.

I'll wait for the Complete Edition that will come out in 2043.
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Tbh the episodes will probably span across multiple gens, seeing as how we're already half way into PS4 already.

Can you imagine having to switch between PS4 and PS5 for the entire experience? Lol
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Until I see Miss Cloud in HD, I will never be satisfied.
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anyone consider that there may be new areas to explore that wasn't in the orginal?
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Ubergeneral3 posted...

anyone consider that there may be new areas to explore that wasn't in the orginal?

Yes.

VectorChaos posted...

We all know any new content like that is just going to be them shoving Compilation garbage into it.

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DevsBro posted...

What happens if I decide I want to go to Costa Del Sol again for some reason, but I'm playing the "underwater reactor episode"?

That's a good thought, actually. If they were to make, as they claim, each episode "like a full game" then they'd have to completely reorganize the narrative. Afterall, you visit most places at least twice, and if the overworld, environments, characters and gameplay are all identical between episodes, that doesn't really feel like multiple full games. They'd have to focus on different environments at a minimum, which means You'd have to do both Midgar portions at once, both Junon portions at once, etc.

I find this kind of hilarious because the original FF7 closed off/reopened areas all the time and had to be spread across multiple disks just to make room for the increasing number of locations and FMVs. But while that can be forgiven due to technological limitations of the time, now Square will be doing it on purpose because "artistic vision" (or "more money" rather).

Anyway, I don't care about the remake because I didn't want/need it in the first place. I was never huge into FF7 like other people were to begin with (I thought it was decent enough except for the ending, but hardly the BEST GAME EVER), and the Compilation soured me on the world and its cast to the point I'm sick and tired of them now.
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BLAKUboy posted...

We stopped caring, but it's still a piece of shit. Oh, sorry, episodic pieces of shit.

Wait what. I hardly pay attention to gaming news and had no idea about this. Fuck that

Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

had to be spread across multiple disks just to make room for the increasing number of locations and FMVs.

It was only the FMVs. That and Supernova's animation only being on disc 3 are the only differences between the discs.
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I will never stop being upset about it. Especially since they got rid of the original gameplay. Also, I don't think you guys know what "episodic" means. It means that every episode, there was something different happening, and you didn't have to watch them in order to understand what's going on.

Ubergeneral3 posted...

anyone consider that there may be new areas to explore that wasn't in the orginal?

We're going to get less.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

Anyway, I don't care about the remake because I didn't want/need it in the first place. I was never huge into FF7 like other people were to begin with (I thought it was decent enough except for the ending, but hardly the BEST GAME EVER), and the Compilation soured me on the world and its cast to the point I'm sick and tired of them now.

I didn't think FF7 was all that and a bag of chips, but I guess I must like remakes because the idea of a current gen version of any of the psx FFs makes me excited
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I find this kind of hilarious because the original FF7 closed off/reopened areas all the time and had to be spread across multiple disks just to make room for the increasing number of locations and FMVs. But while that can be forgiven due to technological limitations of the time, now Square will be doing it on purpose because "artistic vision" (or "more money" rather).

What they did in 1997 isn't really comparable to what I said though. See, you start the game in Midgar, then you go back to Midgar near the end of the game. If they really want to make each episode feel like a "full game", this can't happen, because a new game needs new environments and such. Make sense?

Anyway, I don't care about the remake because I didn't want/need it in the first place. I was never huge into FF7 like other people were to begin with (I thought it was decent enough except for the ending, but hardly the BEST GAME EVER), and the Compilation soured me on the world and its cast to the point I'm sick and tired of them now.

I guess it's a good thing I never played/watched any of the other FF7 material. I've heard other people say this too.
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Has there been any new info released?
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FF7 was my first RPG. Before it, I didn't know there was such a genre of game. I instantly fell in love. It introduced me to the entire genre, and I love it for that. However, I don't think it is the best RPG ever; nor even the best FF game.

I've never been upset about the remake; I've always wanted one. Yes, I'll admit, I always imagined a more direct, turn-based remake with latest graphics, but I know I'm in the small minority of those who still love turn based battles.

So, not upset. I am, however, worried. If they don't handle it right, its going to be a huge disappointment. So, I want it to be good and to be a success.
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