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AlBundy33
04/17/17 6:31:48 AM
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And thrown in jail
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AltonBrownFan
04/17/17 6:36:47 AM
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So who takes care of the kids then?
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SomeLikeItHoth
04/17/17 7:00:19 AM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?

Not shit parents?
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Were_Wyrm
04/17/17 7:17:20 AM
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Why would you throw the kids in jail?
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ColdOne666
04/17/17 7:18:53 AM
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Agree 100%. Nobody that stupid deserves kids, they obviously cant look after them properly.
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04/17/17 7:19:21 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Why would you throw the kids in jail?

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NeuralLaxative
04/17/17 7:20:56 AM
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Alakazamtrainer
04/17/17 7:26:04 AM
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Let me ask this then; What about if you dont believe in them or its against what you believe?

I know for fact that some amish dont get an immunization shots because they dont believe in modern medicine
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gmanthebest
04/17/17 7:37:05 AM
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Alakazamtrainer posted...
Let me ask this then; What about if you dont believe in them or its against what you believe?

I know for fact that some amish dont get an immunization shots because they dont believe in modern medicine

Their beliefs being stupid isn't an excuse to not protect their kids.

Take the kids away and give them to parents who actually love them
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AltonBrownFan
04/17/17 7:44:25 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?

Not s*** parents?

And who would that be?
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GigaSPX
04/17/17 7:48:17 AM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?

Not s*** parents?

And who would that be?

The ones that are smart enough to not put the kids in danger of dying in the first place.
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AltonBrownFan
04/17/17 7:49:34 AM
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GigaSPX posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?

Not s*** parents?

And who would that be?

The ones that are smart enough to not put the kids in danger of dying in the first place.

And how many of those people are willing to take care of kids in our already overburdened foster care system? Do you think it's a wise idea to toss even more children into the state's care?
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markconigliaro
04/17/17 7:55:56 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Let me ask this then; What about if you dont believe in them or its against what you believe?

I know for fact that some amish dont get an immunization shots because they dont believe in modern medicine

Their beliefs being stupid isn't an excuse to not protect their kids.


*protect their kids and my hypothetical kids, and people who can't get a vaccine such as people allergic to them, pregnant people, children too young, and people with certain medical conditions.

The vaccine doesn't just protect the kid, it protects everyone else too.
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darksamus1992
04/17/17 7:57:05 AM
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Just make vaccines mandatory for people who can take them.
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GigaSPX
04/17/17 8:17:54 AM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
GigaSPX posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?

Not s*** parents?

And who would that be?

The ones that are smart enough to not put the kids in danger of dying in the first place.

And how many of those people are willing to take care of kids in our already overburdened foster care system? Do you think it's a wise idea to toss even more children into the state's care?


This would already become an argument that goes hand in hand with other arguments about whether having kids or not. Do you really want to bring them into a world where you are going to make them suffer from your own ignorance, or do you do the smart thing to help them and everyone else around them by getting vaccinated.
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AltonBrownFan
04/17/17 8:22:33 AM
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GigaSPX posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
GigaSPX posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?

Not s*** parents?

And who would that be?

The ones that are smart enough to not put the kids in danger of dying in the first place.

And how many of those people are willing to take care of kids in our already overburdened foster care system? Do you think it's a wise idea to toss even more children into the state's care?


This would already become an argument that goes hand in hand with other arguments about whether having kids or not. Do you really want to bring them into a world where you are going to make them suffer from your own ignorance, or do you do the smart thing to help them and everyone else around them by getting vaccinated.

You didn't answer my question. What happens to the children once you put them in an already overburdened system?
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_Near_
04/17/17 8:24:51 AM
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That's fucking dumb. I'm against the anti-vax movement as much as any other reasonable person but it's not in the best interest of the child to be taken away from their parents unless there is physical or emotional abuse.
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pinky0926
04/17/17 8:26:18 AM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?


TC hadn't really thought that far ahead, he just wanted to be outraged about something that's admittedly a shit situation
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DevsBro
04/17/17 9:00:48 AM
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Why would you throw the kids in jail?

To quarantine them, since they're not vaccinated.
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foreveraIone
04/17/17 9:06:45 AM
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I dunno. Raise taxes on those people?
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OpheliaAdenade
04/17/17 9:07:40 AM
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They already do. :o God takes them away.
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DevsBro
04/17/17 9:09:19 AM
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I dunno. Raise taxes on those people?

What would that accomplish? Anti-vaxers literally believe they're doing the best thing for their kids. They're not gonna sell their kids out to avoid higher taxes.
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Drasilor
04/17/17 9:17:35 AM
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The indoctrination is real.
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/17/17 9:22:10 AM
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But if I do vaccinate them then they could become whatever is the right term for a special needs kid!!!!

Nah, both mine have gotten all theirs and will continue getting whatever they need.
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treewojima
04/17/17 9:22:29 AM
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Drasilor posted...
The indoctrination is real.


I know right? Anti-vaxxers are a loony bunch.
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Howl
04/17/17 9:26:09 AM
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treewojima posted...
Drasilor posted...
The indoctrination is real.


I know right? Anti-vaxxers are a loony bunch.


I am not an anti-vaxxer, but your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.
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treewojima
04/17/17 9:32:06 AM
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Howl posted...
treewojima posted...
Drasilor posted...
The indoctrination is real.


I know right? Anti-vaxxers are a loony bunch.


I am not an anti-vaxxer, but your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.


Sounds like you need a trip to the camps.
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hockeybub89
04/17/17 10:10:22 AM
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gmanthebest
04/17/17 10:29:53 AM
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markconigliaro posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Let me ask this then; What about if you dont believe in them or its against what you believe?

I know for fact that some amish dont get an immunization shots because they dont believe in modern medicine

Their beliefs being stupid isn't an excuse to not protect their kids.


*protect their kids and my hypothetical kids, and people who can't get a vaccine such as people allergic to them, pregnant people, children too young, and people with certain medical conditions.

The vaccine doesn't just protect the kid, it protects everyone else too.

Yes, thank you.
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Alakazamtrainer
04/17/17 1:47:57 PM
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While i do agree that some immunization should be requires i dont think all should be.

Since there is conflicting evidence of whether or not that it causes Autism, there shold be alot more research first.

While i think the polio vaccine is a definate yes for mandatory and the MMR the same way... Booster shots and Chicken pox i think should be more optional
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_Near_
04/17/17 2:08:00 PM
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Alakazamtrainer posted...
Since there is conflicting evidence of whether or not that it causes Autism,


No there isn't.
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Alakazamtrainer
04/17/17 2:19:17 PM
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_Near_ posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Since there is conflicting evidence of whether or not that it causes Autism,


No there isn't.


Actually there is.. An Egyptian research team found evidence eairlier this year actually
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darkphoenix181
04/17/17 2:21:54 PM
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do you believe in abortion tc?
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AltonBrownFan
04/17/17 2:33:02 PM
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Alakazamtrainer posted...
_Near_ posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Since there is conflicting evidence of whether or not that it causes Autism,


No there isn't.


Actually there is.. An Egyptian research team found evidence eairlier this year actually

Post your source
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Liberals
04/17/17 2:37:31 PM
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Alakazamtrainer
04/17/17 2:38:18 PM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
_Near_ posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Since there is conflicting evidence of whether or not that it causes Autism,


No there isn't.


Actually there is.. An Egyptian research team found evidence eairlier this year actually

Post your source


http://newstarget.com/2017-02-01-egyptian-study-confirms-autism-is-caused-by-mercury-in-vaccines.html
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meingott
04/17/17 2:39:22 PM
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_Near_ posted...
That's fucking dumb. I'm against the anti-vax movement as much as any other reasonable person but it's not in the best interest of the child to be taken away from their parents unless there is physical or emotional abuse.

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scoobydoobydont
04/17/17 2:41:44 PM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
So who takes care of the kids then?


They are better off in a group home than with abusive parents.

Alakazamtrainer posted...
Let me ask this then; What about if you dont believe in them or its against what you believe?

I know for fact that some amish dont get an immunization shots because they dont believe in modern medicine


No excuse, no exceptions. Fuck the Amish and their "beliefs".
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meingott
04/17/17 2:50:48 PM
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scoobydoobydont posted...
They are better off in a group home than with abusive parents.


Do you believe the same thing about parents who teach their kids Islam?
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darkphoenix181
04/17/17 2:52:19 PM
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meingott posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...
They are better off in a group home than with abusive parents.


Do you believe the same thing about parents who teach their kids Islam?


keep in mind Islamic parents likely practice spanking their kids

do you think people who spank should have kids put in group home and parents in jail?
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hockeybub89
04/17/17 2:55:46 PM
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meingott posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...
They are better off in a group home than with abusive parents.


Do you believe the same thing about parents who teach their kids Islam?

Legislating what parents think is a bit trickier with regards to religion. I think children should be free of that, but how do you legislate that if there isn't clear mistreatment? Vaccines are easy. Kids get them or they don't. If they don't, their parents are piece of shit abusers. Their beliefs be damned.
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CableZL
04/17/17 2:56:24 PM
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You shouldn't vaccinate your kids.
You should have a medical professional do it.
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darkphoenix181
04/17/17 3:02:23 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
meingott posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...
They are better off in a group home than with abusive parents.


Do you believe the same thing about parents who teach their kids Islam?

Legislating what parents think is a bit trickier with regards to religion. I think children should be free of that, but how do you legislate that if there isn't clear mistreatment? Vaccines are easy. Kids get them or they don't. If they don't, their parents are piece of shit abusers. Their beliefs be damned.


spanking perhaps
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Drasilor
04/17/17 3:13:31 PM
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Alton got wrecked.
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hockeybub89
04/17/17 3:19:35 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
meingott posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...
They are better off in a group home than with abusive parents.


Do you believe the same thing about parents who teach their kids Islam?

Legislating what parents think is a bit trickier with regards to religion. I think children should be free of that, but how do you legislate that if there isn't clear mistreatment? Vaccines are easy. Kids get them or they don't. If they don't, their parents are piece of shit abusers. Their beliefs be damned.


spanking perhaps

Spanking isn't exclusively Islamic though. We could declare a specific action against children to be illegal regardless of what the parents believe, but preventing beliefs being passed down isn't so easy. Beliefs aren't illegal unless they cause tangible harm. Even then, those are the actions being punished.
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Polycosm
04/17/17 3:23:15 PM
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The anti-vaxx movement is stupid and dangerous, but at the same time I've got a problem with jackbooted government thugs forcibly sticking needles into children's arms.

Solution: no access to social services unless you're vaccinated. No public school, no public parks, no public polling places. Make it so costly that no one can afford to make the wrong choice.
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LightHawKnight
04/17/17 3:25:28 PM
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Better or worse than people trying to cure a disease through prayer or other alternative medicines?
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Ammonitida
04/17/17 3:27:43 PM
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The man behind the vaccine.

Genius Thomas Huckle Weller.

https://www.wired.com/2008/08/remembering-tho/

It took nearly five decades to develop the polio vaccine, and end-stage researchers like Jonas Salk get most of the glory — but it wouldn’t have happened without fundamental advances like Weller’s. That’s worth remembering as we wait impatiently for an AIDS vaccine and other therapies, and wonder why researchers spend so much time and money on basic research.

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meingott
04/17/17 3:28:39 PM
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Polycosm posted...
The anti-vaxx movement is stupid and dangerous, but at the same time I've got a problem with jackbooted government thugs forcibly sticking needles into children's arms.

Solution: no access to social services unless you're vaccinated. No public school, no public parks, no public polling places. Make it so costly that no one can afford to make the wrong choice.


then they shouldn't be expected to pay taxes if they don't get access to public services. they're either public or they're not.
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