Current Events > Fallout 4 so forgettable

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Put over 100 hours in it and then put it down after beating it- never touching it again. Doesn't even linger in my thoughts anymore.

Plus It doesn't seem as popular as Skyrim even though it sold a lot more also.

Far Harbor and Nuka-World were both decent add-ons. I think the wonky dialogue (lack of relevant speech checks) is what annoyed me the most -- definitely wasn't expecting dumbed-down stuff like that after New Vegas. It's not a complete wash, though, and has plenty of great stuff. I hope they keep the buildable settlements for Fallout 5, just refining it a bit more.
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the town building was so bad i turned the game off and never put it on again
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I enjoyed it but i agree there was nothing that stood out to me. Like it felt like they just tried to do FO3 again

I really had fun with Nuka World though.
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Settlement building was extremely boring. The whole game just had a shit atmosphere and boring ass quests. Really just a shitty game.
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Fallout 4 is the Skyrim of Fallout. While it's not a bad game, it's very stripped down and "streamlined".

I've been enjoying my time playing F4, but of course it pales in comparison to New Vegas.
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I no lifed the game for a couple weeks and was ultimately disappointed. Mechanically it was much better than fallout 3/new vegas (shooting, junk collecting, etc) but the story was awful even for Bethesda standards and the town building was half assed. I didn't dislike the game but was super disappointed
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It's strange because it had almost everything I had ever wanted in a Fallout game, but it was still just OK. I think what turned me off the most was that almost every encounter turned into a shoot out.
Wandering the Fallout wasteland is fun and when you come across strangers, you never knew what was going to be in store for you. In this one you are better off just shooting anything that moves.
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PoopPotato posted...

It's strange because it had almost everything I had ever wanted in a Fallout game, but it was still just OK. I think what turned me off the most was that almost every encounter turned into a shoot out.
Wandering the Fallout wasteland is fun and when you come across strangers, you never knew what was going to be in store for you. In this one you are better off just shooting anything that moves.

Agreed
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The settlement stuff was by no means perfect, but it's definitely the most evergreen quality of the game. They even had the foresight to avoid tying settlement creation to most quests, so you can just start a new character and cut loose early on. I remember building a yao guai habitat at Tenpines Bluff or making a huge rooftop fort at Egret Tours Marina. Make-your-own-adventure fun like that is way more enjoyable than the middling campaign.
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It's the best post-apocalyptic game I've ever played, especially with the zombie mods.
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I couldn't get more than maybe 12 or so hours in. The more progress you make, the more and more clear it becomes that it is fucking AWFUL
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I kind of agree. When I first got it, I loved it. Played it as often as possible every day. And when I wasn't playing it, I was thinking about playing it.
Not sure what happened, but I just stopped playing one day and haven't picked it up since. Very strange. I just have no real desire to play it. Which really sucks. Maybe I'll give it a try again.
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To me, the map felt so big and empty, and exploration was very repetitive.
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FarFromFields posted...

To me, the map felt so big and empty, and exploration was very repetitive.

WTF? The map is densely packed with content. More content than any other open-world game I've ever played. You sure you're not confusing this with Metal Gear V? Now that game had a pointless open-world.
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FarFromFields posted...

To me, the map felt so big and empty, and exploration was very repetitive.

miles wide but inches deep
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Ammonitida posted...

FarFromFields posted...

To me, the map felt so big and empty, and exploration was very repetitive.

WTF? The map is densely packed with content. More content than any other open-world game I've ever played. You sure you're not confusing this with Metal Gear V? Now that game had a pointless open-world.

How are you defining "content" though? I felt like the city scape was just endless abandoned buildings, where the only variety was whether the inhabitants were Raiders or Mutants.
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You mean


Fallout 4gettable
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FarFromFields posted...

Ammonitida posted...

FarFromFields posted...

To me, the map felt so big and empty, and exploration was very repetitive.

WTF? The map is densely packed with content. More content than any other open-world game I've ever played. You sure you're not confusing this with Metal Gear V? Now that game had a pointless open-world.

How are you defining "content" though? I felt like the city scape was just endless abandoned buildings, where the only variety was whether the inhabitants were Raiders or Mutants.

You must be talking about the base game. I play with several mods that vastly increase the variety of enemies. The mods make raiders, mutants, etc more diverse in their looks and tactics. You'll face special Raiders like "juggernauts" that can be a real bitch to fight.
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There should've been only like 5 settlement areas. I wanted fallout, not minecraft. Hopefully they don't go too crazy for the next ES.
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Ammonitida posted...

You must be talking about the base game

Why would anything else matter when discussing the merits of a game?
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boring game, only played it for 100 hours.

Lmao!
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Twinmold posted...

boring game, only played it for 100 hours.

Lmao!

I'm perfectly fine with criticizing Bethesda for their laundry list of faults, but yeah, this line always cracks me up.

Also, I've said this before, but while I'm okay with the scope of settlement-building being reduced in future ES and FO games, I will throw a royal hissy if people's whining about it gets it removed completely. The sandbox has been the main draw of Beth games for as long as I've played them, and FO4 finally let me play with the damn sand.
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Couldn't get into it either. Too much "radiant" questing and settlement building shit.
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masterpug53 posted...

Twinmold posted...

boring game, only played it for 100 hours.

Lmao!

I'm perfectly fine with criticizing Bethesda for their laundry list of faults, but yeah, this line always cracks me up.

Also, I've said this before, but while I'm okay with the scope of settlement-building being reduced in future ES and FO games, I will throw a royal hissy if people's whining about it gets it removed completely. The sandbox has been the main draw of Beth games for as long as I've played them, and FO4 finally let me play with the damn sand.

I agree with this. I understand that people want more realized cities, but to me, building my own cities was so much more fun. There's a way to make both groups happy here.
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That's how I felt about three, haven't played four yet. I only ever got through the very beginning of New Vegas before I had to return it.
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I played a lot of New Vegas to prepare for its release...I shouldn't have done that. Man, Fallout 4 was a dull lump in comparison.
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The whole settlement thing falls flat because it really reminds you of how dumb the AI is.

Build a bar? Cool. When everyone is off, settlers go and chill around it... including the bartender smh.

Build a private room with a powered door and everything? Settlers magically poof inside when you're not looking.
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Yeah, the settler AI itself wasn't very good, and the fact that settlers can spawn all over when you revisit was actually very annoying. I remember building a sweet Sanctuary place where I made concrete shells over the ruined houses and populated it with robots. However, the robots would randomly spawn inside the shells, or get stuck on platforms, or not do their assigned work detail, or stand around idling in weird places (like one particular backyard). It's quite an immersion-breaker.

It's half the reason I liked building settler-less animal sanctuaries, but even those have their own troubles. IIRC, the monster AI had it so friendly (brainwashed) monsters in your settlement wouldn't attack enemies of the same type. So, if you ever caged up a yao guai and used it to attract enemies to your place for fun, your "guard dogs" wouldn't really bother with fighting 'em. Kind of a shame, but maybe that was fixed by mods or something.
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Am I the only one who thought New Vegas was crap garbage and Fallout 4 was pretty good?
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Hey, gotta give it credit.

Because of the voiced protagonist, Those Gamer Poop videos have gotten a WHOLE lot more hilarious.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

Am I the only one who thought New Vegas was crap garbage and Fallout 4 was pretty good?

Yeah, probably
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

Am I the only one who thought New Vegas was crap garbage and Fallout 4 was pretty good?

Sounds like something a no-good Powder Ganger varmint would say.
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Twinmold posted...

boring game, only played it for 100 hours.

Lmao!

Yeah investing so much into something and then and not having any more stray thoughts about anymore is pretty laughable. My point is that something has to be really souless and dull for someone to be invest so much time in and barely think about again.

Asherlee10 posted...

I wish someone would just give me a settlement building game and occasionally have raiders attack. I guess it's like the Clash of Clans, but way more in depth in the building.

You can have zombie attacks with the Walkers mod, or you can just install one of the spawner mods and just turn on raider spawns when you need to (turn them off when you're done).
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

Am I the only one who thought New Vegas was crap garbage and Fallout 4 was pretty good?

The only thing that gets my goat quicker than NV haters are people who play the 'Am I the only one who...' insta-sympathy card. So...yep, pretty much. ;-P

I thought FO4 was not only better than people gave it credit for, but a vast improvement in all but a couple areas over FO3. But both are steaming slag piles compared to NV. Hell, word of settlement-building is really the only thing that spurred me to play FO4 in the first place; if NV had had something like that (In my perfect fantasy world wherein such a feature could actually have existed on the 360), I'd probably never have even played FO4.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I wish someone would just give me a settlement building game and occasionally have raiders attack. I guess it's like the Clash of Clans, but way more in depth in the building.

You can have zombie attacks with the Walkers mod, or you can just install one of the spawner mods and just turn on raider spawns when you need to (turn them off when you're done).

I want a standalone game and a settlement/city building that actually works properly and has robust options.

Then try State of Decay or 7 Days to Die. The latter offers Minecraft style building (but much better looking), plus massive zombie attacks every seven days. It's gets harder and harder as you progress. You must set up barricades, spikes, etc to slow them down. Really intense.
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It not only lingered in your mind, but lingered so strongly you made a topic about it.
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Bethesda games have been forgettable since Oblivion
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Asherlee10 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I wish someone would just give me a settlement building game and occasionally have raiders attack. I guess it's like the Clash of Clans, but way more in depth in the building.

You can have zombie attacks with the Walkers mod, or you can just install one of the spawner mods and just turn on raider spawns when you need to (turn them off when you're done).

I want a standalone game and a settlement/city building that actually works properly and has robust options.

Then try State of Decay or 7 Days to Die. The latter offers Minecraft style building (but much better looking), plus massive zombie attacks every seven days. It's gets harder and harder as you progress. You must set up barricades, spikes, etc to slow them down. Really intense.

Sounds cool - I'll try that. I guess I also want to create luxury in the settlement, too. Not just a focus on the attacks and defenses. I liked setting up stores, housing, etc.

You can build a whole town, but it will just be you unless you play multiplayer. There are a lot of custom options too. You can turn off zombie attacks whenever you want.
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At least Todd acknowledged the dialogue system was crap, so hopefully we'll go back to something like the one seen F3/NV or Skyrim.

Settlements wouldn't have been so bad if there weren't so many and there was a better interface, like an aerial view. The snapping system could use some work as well.

Hopefully the next protagonist will be more of a blank slate. Forcing a military/law background, a marriage, and a son not only makes it hard to RP, but it also makes that classic game cliche of you goofing off when you're supposed to be rescuing someone you really care about. Also, I felt no motivation to rescue/avenge a family I spent all of 10 minutes with. The Elder Scrolls games always let you have blank backgrounds, why not Fallout? NV managed it.
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Twinmold posted...

boring game, only played it for 100 hours.

Lmao!

If he called it a boring game and only played it for 10 hours you would say he didn't give it a chance.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Just can't win.
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I actually had fun with it, but my expectations were low after Skyrim and FO3 (I don't really judge it against NV which also helps). Also it being a short reveal to release helped out a lot since I didn't have much time to hype it and get disappointed.

Far Harbor and Nuka World are fun too.

It's just fun to explore and shoot shit.
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Southernfatman posted...

Fallout 4 is the Skyrim of Fallout. While it's not a bad game, it's very stripped down and "streamlined".

I've been enjoying my time playing F4, but of course it pales in comparison to New Vegas.

This. Bethesda needs to hire Obsidian to make all their Fallout games.

If he called it a boring game and only played it for 10 hours you would say he didn't give it a chance.

I mean, people who play games, then go troll the fanbase looking for negative reactions don't deserve much respect period. Haters aren't looking for discussion. They're looking to aggravate the fans, and possibly in their small minds, convince the fans that they are wrong, and that the game is bad.
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SicSlayer posted...

Twinmold posted...

boring game, only played it for 100 hours.

Lmao!

If he called it a boring game and only played it for 10 hours you would say he didn't give it a chance.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Just can't win.

1) that's a huge assumption you're making. Where did you pull 10 hours from? Don't answer that, we all know. 2) if only there were reasonable amounts of time between 10 and a hundred hours...

garan posted...

This. Bethesda needs to hire Obsidian to make all their Fallout games.

New Vegas was a mess, FO3 was better. Bethesda doesn't need to listen to internet trolls, they're doing pretty well on their own.

ManSpread posted...

Bethesda games have been forgettable since Oblivion

Skyrim is better than Oblivion in every way and very memorable.
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