Current Events > damn, it's going to suck when i fail this class and i'm 1 class short of a math

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degree

maybe in grad school i'll take one more math class so i can apply for my bachelors

ugh, why am i such a lazy piece of shit student
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What class?
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You should study harder
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teepan95 posted...

What class?

Linear/nonlinear programming



scar the 1 posted...

You should study harder

Yeah
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organicbamf posted...

programming

ewww
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What other classes did you take towards the degree? I'm working towards a math degree too :)
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Cheese_Crackers posted...

What other classes did you take towards the degree? I'm working towards a math degree too :)

Numerical methods
Complex variable calculus
Combinatorics
Interest theory

And then the standard calc series, diff eq, linear algebra, modern algebra, and real analysis

I don't remember if my physical chemistry classes counted toward anything or not
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organicbamf posted...

Cheese_Crackers posted...

What other classes did you take towards the degree? I'm working towards a math degree too :)

Numerical methods
Complex variable calculus
Combinatorics
Interest theory

And then the standard calc series, diff eq, linear algebra, modern algebra, and real analysis

I don't remember if my physical chemistry classes counted toward anything or not

Interest theory sounds neat. Did you like complex? It was one of my favourite classes by far
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Not really, but the professor was bad.

Interest theory is okay. It's a lot of the same thing over and over again. I think I could be an actuary for awhile tho if I didn't have other plans.

combinatorics and modern have been my favorite classes. I'd like to take some group theory class, and continue with quantum chemistry. Also should probably take partial diff eq for good measure
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Linear programming isn't too bad. It can be rough though.
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Complex calculus gets to a whole new level of awesome once you start going into signal processing and realize how immensely useful it is.
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JSancton posted...

Linear programming isn't too bad. It can be rough though.

i don't understand how to set this up. the 2 examples she did were a polynomial and a cube

like do i evalute at those points as x1 - 1, x2 - sqrt(3) ? do i just leave it as a single variable like:

f(x) = [x - 1, x - sqrt(3)]^T and then proceed using lagrange multipliers?

bleh, i'm tired of school

scar the 1 posted...

Complex calculus gets to a whole new level of awesome once you start going into signal processing and realize how immensely useful it is.

i remember we used a fair amount in quantum, but they always wound up being real-valued because we'd always multiply by the complex conjugate to do something something (it's been a minute since that class)

doubt i'll ever get into signal processing, but maybe? right now i'm interested in computational organic chem, but idk if that's what i'll actually be working on when i start next fall. like i know it'll be in organic chem, but i don't really want to do pure synthetic or anything. i'd really like to learn about computational methods and actually put my math background to use (because it's p rare for most chemists, but especially organic ones)
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organicbamf posted...

doubt i'll ever get into signal processing, but maybe? right now i'm interested in computational organic chem, but idk if that's what i'll actually be working on when i start next fall. like i know it'll be in organic chem, but i don't really want to do pure synthetic or anything. i'd really like to learn about computational methods and actually put my math background to use (because it's p rare for most chemists, but especially organic ones)

A lot of DSP is actually just applied statistics, which IMO can turn out useful in a variety of fields. After all, most anything can be regarded as signals - images, audio, any sort of time series, any data collected from the real world, etc. So while not always crucial, it's rarely if ever completely useless or inapplicable.
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Nerd
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yeah, and i know there's a ton of that in chemistry because of the numerous spectroscopy techniques. but most of my experience there has been in qualitative analysis

i really should've taken more stats class. i took one for social science majors like 6 years ago when i didn't know what i wanted to do.

also word up praise jebus for a gf i can actually ask for help on these things
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organicbamf posted...

right now i'm interested in computational organic chem, but idk if that's what i'll actually be working on when i start next fall. like i know it'll be in organic chem, but i don't really want to do pure synthetic or anything. i'd really like to learn about computational methods and actually put my math background to use (because it's p rare for most chemists, but especially organic ones)

Here in Germany, a lot of computational chemistry groups tend to focus on biochemistry more than organic chemistry.

I think computational org is more prevalent in industry (eg drug screening) (although, that's still a fair bit of biochem too)
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you won't fail you are a smart man
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Ugh, math is so dull and boring.
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teepan95 posted...

Here in Germany, a lot of computational chemistry groups tend to focus on biochemistry more than organic chemistry.

I think computational org is more prevalent in industry (eg drug screening) (although, that's still a fair bit of biochem too)

i'm okay with that as well, i've done a couple years of biophysics/biochemistry research (x-ray crystallography), so i'm at least a little familiar with that area. i'm like 2 classes away from a biochem minor, but fuck that noise. i'm not taking metabolism because i'm not going to spend that much time memorizing so much shit.

just gimme that sweet, sweet industry job so i can have a 9-5 and then be a real adult finally

drunkmuggle posted...

you won't fail you are a smart man

thanks, hopefully not. i have my moments, but i kind of gave up on school for the last year. i do everything last minute and don't study for exams, which has had very mixed results. this class tho, i've missed quite a few more points than any other, so i'm hoping she gives me a pity pass. i get the feeling not tho.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Ugh, math is so dull and boring.

i mean i don't really think so, but to each their own ya dig
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When does it stop being plug and chug? Learning the processes and formulas, then just going through the motions? Because nothing is more dull.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

When does it stop being plug and chug? Learning the processes and formulas, then just going through the motions? Because nothing is more dull.

everything in calc, linear algebra, and diff eq was so idk

modern algebra, real analysis, and combinatorics haven't been. as i mentioned above, those were my favorite (less so for analysis, but it was still interesting).
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organicbamf posted...

i'm like 2 classes away from a biochem minor, but fuck that noise. i'm not taking metabolism because i'm not going to spend that much time memorizing so much shit.

Back when I was a chem major, I had two mandatory biochem modules: intro to biochem (enzymes, proteins, amino acids) and intro to metabolism (fats, sugars, Krebs cycle etc).

That stuff was just about tolerable, any more and I would have def gone insane lol
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bruh why are you doing a math degree if you hate math
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organicbamf posted...

bruh why are you doing a math degree if you hate math

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organicbamf posted...

bruh why are you doing a math degree if you hate math

because I like programming lol..and computers in general.

That's not what CS is though :)
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yeh, i'd say just get certs or something if that's what you're into. i had some friends who took a java cert class at a votech and had pretty decent jobs straight out of high school

off to turn in my F hw
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

When does it stop being plug and chug? Learning the processes and formulas, then just going through the motions? Because nothing is more dull.

In my experience, the second semester of second year is when things became more about arguments, logic, and proofs than computation.

Up until then, even us math majors had to take calculus, linear algebra, and differential equations, which are all very computational and thus pretty boring (IMO).

In winter semester second year, at least at my school, we had to take real analysis, which on the surface is like calculus but has a very different flavour; calculus does "proofs by intuition" ("take the limit as the width of the rectangles gets small" or whatever) so you could apply the results to solve word problems, whereas nothing is left to intuition in analysis. Most analysis classes don't even assume the existence of real numbers; they show how to construct them from the rationals and set theory. The trade-off is that there isn't much time in the class for applications, but after building up all the theory, the applications you learned in first year are completely doable anyway.

I think this is the point when people in other majors (CS, physics) are likely to take discrete math, too. The computations in that class, from my understanding, are pretty standard, but it's very logic-based and this makes it challenging for non-math students, I think.

From there, we basically had to choose between applied and pure (theoretical) math. I went the theoretical route, so my math classes were, again, very proof-based and didn't worry about applications for the most part, although most of them did have applications if you cared to look for them. I think applied math also does a lot of proofs, but obviously spends more time on applications to the sciences.

Anyway, looking back, I agree that computational math is extremely boring and uninspired. It's unfortunate because most high school math curricula don't emphasize the other, more representative aspects of math at all. I thought math was basically like high school calculus forever, and I only majored in it because I was good at computing stuff. I even have some friends that I think would have really enjoyed my proof-based classes, but high school math turned them off from it.
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damn, going back through the test's relevant homeworks is frustrating. i should have put just a bit more effort into them... :(

if i hadn't tried doing the hw the morning it was due, i'm confident i'd have gotten A's. like linear least square and quadritic minimizers are incredibly easy.

my only worry is if she asks any proof-based questions, because my knowledge of linear alg and vector calc is now p garbage. sigh, i just want this shit to be over

and our final project looks to be quite a bit of work
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haha i lied, i have no idea how to do the SOSC and i have the solutions from the hw in front of me

what the fuck fam
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def failed

fuck

i wrote a note on the last problem tho and she said to talk to her before i decide to drop (which i thought was last friday, not this one)
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Maybe she'll let you pass

In return for a backside attack ;)
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She p cute actually so
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How you going to grad school if you don't get a degree?
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i have a degree in chemistry already
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talked to her this morning

i think she's going to pity pass me

yay
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