Board 8 > Mercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 4: where is results

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ScareChan
04/07/17 3:44:59 PM
#251:


I... Think I believe Kanz's claim. He was prodding Oddity right away. Backup and extra protection isn't that likely, so it at least makes me okay with him right now
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:45:16 PM
#252:


MZero11 posted...
ScareChan posted...
htaeD posted...


1. I got the joke, I never thought PJ was on any safelist


Verbage thing but wouldnt it be "I knew PJ wasnt on any safelist" and not "I never though"


THE DAGGER

good catch


no really
I dont get it
all I get its that you are getting hyped over nothing, Mzero
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Corrik
04/07/17 3:46:05 PM
#253:


Corrik posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...

lying town, but still cop?


No, lying town period, probably vanilla or something like that. A fake claim in other words. Cop claiming to have a scan he actually doesn't have is too stupid for words.

Lol

In full disclosure, I did not scan Kanz. I scanned someone else. I wanted to see if Kanz, a scum suspevt of mine would dig himself a hole today if I claimed it was on him, and he did. Cool measured response. Backup doctor claim instead of fake claiming and outright claiming what he thinks is an unlynchable role. Claiming I could be shot before him when he is claiming I am a farce. Claiming as a doctor claim he could live multiple nights. Yeah no.
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:46:51 PM
#254:


....

well okay...

now I am hoping you scanned me
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:47:19 PM
#255:


that was a joke
for the slower among us
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KanzarisKelshen
04/07/17 3:47:36 PM
#256:


htaeD posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...

lying town, but still cop?


No, lying town period, probably vanilla or something like that. A fake claim in other words. Cop claiming to have a scan he actually doesn't have is too stupid for words.


okay so read your own future prediction again


This?

Pretty much got something between N2 and D4 left at max, yeah. I'm not making endgame unless the scum is straight up stupid, so I want to make the most of today.


What's exactly complicated about this. There's four possible situations I see: I get killed N2, I get lynched D3, killed N3, or lynched D4. That was a statement that I don't see a situation how I get further than that unless someone else steps forward to confirm me. You're gonna have to walk me through this death.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/07/17 3:48:36 PM
#257:


Oh, look

exactly what I was expecting

Corrik you dumbass

Why would you be so dense
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:48:46 PM
#258:


if Corrik is not a cop, scum would know that too and not do anything to him at all
leaving them 2 roles to attack 'you' with

course, thats thrown aside by Corriks recent revelation anyway
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Corrik
04/07/17 3:49:14 PM
#259:


So anyways we lynch kanz
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:49:37 PM
#260:


Mzero, tell me what this dagger is
I dont see the important distinction between the sentences
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:50:07 PM
#261:


I presume you scanned someone innocent then, Corrik
mind sharing?
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KanzarisKelshen
04/07/17 3:51:04 PM
#262:


htaeD posted...
if Corrik is not a cop, scum would know that too and not do anything to him at all
leaving them 2 roles to attack 'you' with

course, thats thrown aside by Corriks recent revelation anyway


I knew he was BSing. It's why I resisted claiming early and waited for everyone else, hoping people would understand Corrik does this all the fucking time, but apparently nope. On the plus side, It's basically guaranteed scum hopped on me because I hit a ton of votes, so we can glean something from these votals.
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ScareChan
04/07/17 3:51:50 PM
#263:


Made that last post before reading last page

now conflicted because it was obvious Alany was the extra vote

But Alany was Kanz's extra vote in game even while being a leader as well. So I'm torn on Mercs meta and flavor meta

I think Death is the more sure way to go with 2 slips. Kanz and Corrik resolves itself

##Vote: Death
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Corrik
04/07/17 3:51:58 PM
#264:


htaeD posted...
I presume you scanned someone innocent then, Corrik
mind sharing?

No thanks. The person I scanned knows. That is good enough for now.
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:52:25 PM
#265:


I barely count even the one slip what the hell?
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:52:56 PM
#266:


yeah Corrik
and what if you die?
what does it help town?
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Corrik
04/07/17 3:53:13 PM
#267:


htaeD posted...
yeah Corrik
and what if you die?
what does it help town?

I said the person knows I scanned them
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:53:41 PM
#268:


okay
BRACE YOURSEF GUYS, I AM GONNA ASK MERCS STUFF AGAIN OH NO
could any other player fit a backup role?
flavorwise?
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:54:23 PM
#269:


Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
yeah Corrik
and what if you die?
what does it help town?

I said the person knows I scanned them


yeah but what if scum will go all 'I am spartacus' and confuse the rest of town
we cannot be sure the person you scanned town.. is town
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:54:41 PM
#270:


also how do you know he knows?
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KanzarisKelshen
04/07/17 3:55:29 PM
#271:


Unofficial Votals as of post #269

[5] Kanz - Corrik, Oddity, (MZero), (Scare), Leo, Leo2, Tony
[1] Ben - eaed
[1] eaed - Kanz
[1] Corrik - IGCD
[3] Death: MZero, Lopen, Scare
[1] Johnbobb: Death

(content in next post)
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ChaosTonyV4
04/07/17 3:56:12 PM
#272:


Corrik posted...
Corrik posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...

lying town, but still cop?


No, lying town period, probably vanilla or something like that. A fake claim in other words. Cop claiming to have a scan he actually doesn't have is too stupid for words.

Lol

In full disclosure, I did not scan Kanz. I scanned someone else. I wanted to see if Kanz, a scum suspevt of mine would dig himself a hole today if I claimed it was on him, and he did. Cool measured response. Backup doctor claim instead of fake claiming and outright claiming what he thinks is an unlynchable role. Claiming I could be shot before him when he is claiming I am a farce. Claiming as a doctor claim he could live multiple nights. Yeah no.


L O L
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ScareChan
04/07/17 3:56:30 PM
#273:


htaeD posted...
I barely count even the one slip what the hell?


Ah, but barely counting is still counting. Thank you for acknowledging it was indeed a slip

Hang him
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Corrik
04/07/17 3:56:36 PM
#274:


htaeD posted...
Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
yeah Corrik
and what if you die?
what does it help town?

I said the person knows I scanned them


yeah but what if scum will go all 'I am spartacus' and confuse the rest of town
we cannot be sure the person you scanned town.. is town

No thanks, Death. Your line of reasoning looks very scummish. If death is scum, it may make Kanz look more town because Death seems to be trying to verify I really had a scan and who it was on as if he is unsure I am actually cop.

Thus

##unvote
##vote: death


Death has now made himself the best lynch for figuring out the game.
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MZero11
04/07/17 3:57:33 PM
#275:


htaeD posted...
Mzero, tell me what this dagger is
I dont see the important distinction between the sentences


"I never thought pjbasis was on the safelist" this implies a possibility that he is, even though it is your role. It lacks conviction at a time where you should have a lot more of it.
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Corrik
04/07/17 3:57:46 PM
#276:


htaeD posted...
also how do you know he knows?

Because my role sends him a message saying I scanned him ofc.
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ScareChan
04/07/17 3:58:12 PM
#277:


htaeD posted...
okay
BRACE YOURSEF GUYS, I AM GONNA ASK MERCS STUFF AGAIN OH NO
could any other player fit a backup role?
flavorwise?


I'll humor this

If you account for all of mercs, a few guys. Just M4, maybe Tom, but there is something much more obvious related to him flavor wise. I am having trouble figuring out the role but the flavor is definitely something that would be tied to him
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ScareChan
04/07/17 3:58:58 PM
#278:


Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
also how do you know he knows?

Because my role sends him a message saying I scanned him ofc.


Oh. Awesome.
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htaeD
04/07/17 3:59:25 PM
#279:


ScareChan posted...
htaeD posted...
I barely count even the one slip what the hell?


Ah, but barely counting is still counting. Thank you for acknowledging it was indeed a slip

Hang him


barely in the sense of 'I deliberately said something that wasnt true of myself' so yeah
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:00:16 PM
#280:


yeah fuck
god forbid I try to find out information that town needs
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ChaosTonyV4
04/07/17 4:01:00 PM
#281:


Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
also how do you know he knows?

Because my role sends him a message saying I scanned him ofc.


Can we get your full claim and role explanation please? Is this a Mercs thing turned into a bastard role or are you lying again? >_>

##unvote
##vote: Ben


Where you at Ben??
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Corrik
04/07/17 4:01:51 PM
#282:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
also how do you know he knows?

Because my role sends him a message saying I scanned him ofc.


Can we get your full claim and role explanation please? Is this a Mercs thing turned into a bastard role or are you lying again? >_>

##unvote
##vote: Ben


Where you at Ben??

Trdl Town Cop is my role. Thanks. I thought I stated this previously.
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:01:53 PM
#283:


MZero11 posted...
htaeD posted...
Mzero, tell me what this dagger is
I dont see the important distinction between the sentences


"I never thought pjbasis was on the safelist" this implies a possibility that he is, even though it is your role. It lacks conviction at a time where you should have a lot more of it.


yeah no
thats just arguing phrasing
you see it one way, I see it another
forgive me for not articulating myself gramatically well when I am giving rapidfire answers
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Corrik
04/07/17 4:02:55 PM
#284:


I am pretty sure Kanz is Scum Roleblocker btw. Still very likely lynching him over death. Mulling it over though.
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:02:57 PM
#285:


Corrik, cant you understand?
How was I supposed to know your role had that extra bonus?
and that still doesnt help US, the rest of town
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:04:10 PM
#286:


Corrik posted...
I am pretty sure Kanz is Scum Roleblocker btw. Still very likely lynching him over death. Mulling it over though.


I would look hard at Mzero and Lopen for starting this direction away from kanz in the first place
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KanzarisKelshen
04/07/17 4:04:18 PM
#287:


So looking at these, we have Oddity, Miz, Scare, Leo and Tony, aside from Corrik (who is not worth pursuing today). Oddity joined early, and said 'you're gonna live at least one more night' - which bugs me, because how could he know that when I was the one who received the Backup role? He just followed the cop 'scan' in spite of feeling town about me otherwise. Some scum points for that.

Miz was on me early, and had been for a while since D1, but his finding on Death was legit and he got off me with it, putting his vote where his mouth is. Looks town? ish?

Scare had a simple vote, based less on the scan and more on liking Corrik. Hard to say much, he's posting today and didn't say that much D1 (I think? Can someone go over the archives to confirm?) so it could go either way. Has anybody played with scum Scare before to say whether this fits his play pattern or not?

Leo is town until proven otherwise. Let's move on.

And lastly Tony. His explanation for his vote is brief. Hard to draw much from it and he hasn't been that present, but his activity's perked up since D1. No read on him yet, we should have better info by tomorrow.

So out of this group, I feel like Miz looks more or less town, Scare I'd want to hear more on from players who've played with him more, Tony is a neutral read and I buy Leo. If there's scum here, I think it's...

##Vote: Oddity

What's up with all that confidence in Corrik living a day longer, my man? I want an explanation.
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Corrik
04/07/17 4:04:31 PM
#288:


htaeD posted...
Corrik, cant you understand?
How was I supposed to know your role had that extra bonus?
and that still doesnt help US, the rest of town

Hey I just met you
And this is crazy
But here's my number
So call me maybe…
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:05:22 PM
#289:


I..
huh
..buh...
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ChaosTonyV4
04/07/17 4:06:00 PM
#290:


Corrik posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
also how do you know he knows?

Because my role sends him a message saying I scanned him ofc.


Can we get your full claim and role explanation please? Is this a Mercs thing turned into a bastard role or are you lying again? >_>

unvote
vote: Ben


Where you at Ben??

Trdl Town Cop is my role. Thanks. I thought I stated this previously.


I've been Cop before, I forgot about the message Town Cops definitely send to people they scan.
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Corrik
04/07/17 4:06:01 PM
#291:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
So looking at these, we have Oddity, Miz, Scare, Leo and Tony, aside from Corrik (who is not worth pursuing today). Oddity joined early, and said 'you're gonna live at least one more night' - which bugs me, because how could he know that when I was the one who received the Backup role? He just followed the cop 'scan' in spite of feeling town about me otherwise. Some scum points for that.

Miz was on me early, and had been for a while since D1, but his finding on Death was legit and he got off me with it, putting his vote where his mouth is. Looks town? ish?

Scare had a simple vote, based less on the scan and more on liking Corrik. Hard to say much, he's posting today and didn't say that much D1 (I think? Can someone go over the archives to confirm?) so it could go either way. Has anybody played with scum Scare before to say whether this fits his play pattern or not?

Leo is town until proven otherwise. Let's move on.

And lastly Tony. His explanation for his vote is brief. Hard to draw much from it and he hasn't been that present, but his activity's perked up since D1. No read on him yet, we should have better info by tomorrow.

So out of this group, I feel like Miz looks more or less town, Scare I'd want to hear more on from players who've played with him more, Tony is a neutral read and I buy Leo. If there's scum here, I think it's...

##Vote: Oddity

What's up with all that confidence in Corrik living a day longer, my man? I want an explanation.

Actually Oddity you should claim because if you are a protection role, Kanz is dead to rights. I do not understand your 1 more night thing either.

And, yes, I know Kanz is likely scum trying to draw out your protection claim, but at this point, your comment didn't go unnoticed by scum.
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Arti
04/07/17 4:06:17 PM
#292:


Votals (#288)

[4] Death: MZero, Lopen, Scare, Corrik
[3] Kanz: (Corrik), Oddity, (mzero), (scare), Leo, Leo2, (Tony)
[2] Ben: Eaed, Tony
[1] Johnbobb: Death
[1] Corrik: IGCD
[1] Oddity: Kanz
[0] Eaed: (Kanz)
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:06:51 PM
#293:


okay Corrik
pass it to you
what is wrong about telling town who town is?
are you worried scum will shoot whoever you scanned as town?
trying to understand your reasoning here
also technically we still have no reason to believe you are a cop
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:08:30 PM
#294:


I mean is it that hard to believe that I would want to hide that I am a vanilla?
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Corrik
04/07/17 4:09:54 PM
#295:


htaeD posted...
okay Corrik
pass it to you
what is wrong about telling town who town is?
are you worried scum will shoot whoever you scanned as town?
trying to understand your reasoning here
also technically we still have no reason to believe you are a cop

Maybe I didn't scan anyone, Death. Maybe I did. Doooodoooodoooodooo. The person got a pm saying they were scanned good enough.
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MZero11
04/07/17 4:13:04 PM
#296:


htaeD posted...
yeah no
thats just arguing phrasing
you see it one way, I see it another
forgive me for not articulating myself gramatically well when I am giving rapidfire answers


That's how you catch scum, when they don't have time to think about their answers and say something they wouldn't as town. You didn't have time to concoct a Town response.

It's a small thing but it's not like you're going to come out and say "I'm scum" so have to look deeper
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:13:14 PM
#297:


I would just feel a lot better having two sorta confirmed towns
yes even if I do end up lynched today

either way, you know damn well that this is a townconcern
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Corrik
04/07/17 4:15:04 PM
#298:


htaeD posted...
I would just feel a lot better having two sorta confirmed towns
yes even if I do end up lynched today

either way, you know damn well that this is a townconcern

No
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:15:12 PM
#299:


MZero11 posted...
htaeD posted...
yeah no
thats just arguing phrasing
you see it one way, I see it another
forgive me for not articulating myself gramatically well when I am giving rapidfire answers


That's how you catch scum, when they don't have time to think about their answers and say something they wouldn't as town. You didn't have time to concoct a Town response.

It's a small thing but it's not like you're going to come out and say "I'm scum" so have to look deeper


no thats anal retentive BS that gets townplayers mislynched by overzealous players
I didnt have time to think about my answers
true
but why couldnt I say it as town?
its not exactly a phrase that sounds wrong
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htaeD
04/07/17 4:15:23 PM
#300:


Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
I would just feel a lot better having two sorta confirmed towns
yes even if I do end up lynched today

either way, you know damn well that this is a townconcern

No


yes
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