Board 8 > Mercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics

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I am going to have to do this fast, because I should actually already be sleeping (making goals to do less reading tomorrow and more posting, but this will have to do for tonight)

Leo: I agree that some more from Leo, and would not be averse to a Leo lynch if he does not provide. I have seen nothing of substance from him as of yet, just lots of jokes

Ben: The whole Benjamin PJbasis Miller thing has been really hard for me to pin down. When I first read his claim, I didn't initially read it as a joke, and then he said he didn't blame scare for thinking it was a legitimate claim because it was an "obvious joke" but IDK. Upon reading it again though (and reminding myself of the talk about PJ's habit of Miller claiming in CT mafia) I feel like it probably was genuinely just an off-the-cuff response to Ulti's Sir Chris claim right out of the gate. So that is what I am going with.

Oddity: Was wondering whether he was scum or not to begin with because I know he is good at reading town when he is scum but... as of right now, I feel like he has been asking good questions and helping to move discussion forward. Want to do some more analysis tomorrow but til then leaning town.

Also willing to accept Ulti's untargetable claim for now. Okay, done. Sleeping now. Will respond and expand tomorrow.
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Oddity posted...

Ulti... How confident are you in this read? You're one of my towniest reads, but I also read Corrik as town.

Hey. You said 100%. So how confident are you in your read.

...100%.

Lmfao
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Leo3L posted...

Ben really impressed me in whatever the last game I played was. This Ben is not impressing me.

Agreed, Ben has shown that he is very good as town. This game he just doesn't seem to have the same drive and his posts are very lackluster.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

No need when he's the type of player to annoy everyone and get himself lynched anyway.

Keeping my vote on VI, especially now that Leo went and confirmed himself and that was a guy VI was poking at.

Corrik is 100% scun. Gonna vote VI.

This is scum ulti 101.

##unvote:
##vote: Ulti
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So Ulti Scum Lopen IGCD. Not really worried about Leo with his claim so far. An all time doublevoter as scum is effectively 1.5 scum slots. It is possible but very unlikely due to balancing and mylo purposes.
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Scum should say chris.
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Leo3L posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Hey Ben, can you name your top 3 suspects?

Death
Chris
Shad

Leo is a possibly, but I feel like we're getting somewhere if the Flavor syncs up with doublevoter. He'd be pretty confirmable.

And then a lot of people here who I have no reason to beleive they're town yet. The ones I feel are Town are

Scare
Corrik
IGCD

This is what I'm talking about

You think Chris is top 3 scum but are always leaning hard on all his flavor meta bullshit?

Personally I don't let people I think are scum explain how flavour works to me

On that note please don't explain how flavour works to me

Dude, I didnt want Chris to tell me your alignment so I could follow his orders. I wanted Chris to comment on your flavor so I can see if he will try and justify some way to sneakily keep his vote on you or not. I'm trying to see what Chris' alignment is, and make sure he follows up on the new info you revealed.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Oddity posted...

Ulti... How confident are you in this read? You're one of my towniest reads, but I also read Corrik as town.

When Corrik is scum, he is only capable of tunneling obvious town players. He has no other play style, and it's why I 100% knew he was scum in puns' game. He's outright telling everyone who town is with that hilariously bad scum list of his.

And then VI, my other main suspect, voted for him out of boredom. I'm positive if I go back and look at old VI scum games, he'll have voted for teammates while pretending to be bored.

This is factually incorrect. Known a lot for bussing and for giving out accurate fake scans as scum.

Ulti is honestly so obvious scum at this point that its wild.
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Tbf Ben, I went to sleep after voting Corrik and decided in the morning it was still a good vote. Literally slept on it.
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So I pointed out Ultis scumtell last game, he did it, and you all mislynched.

Now the very next game it is going to happen again and you all again are gonna ignore it again and probably mislynch again?
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Corrik posted...

So I pointed out Ultis scumtell last game, he did it, and you all mislynched.

Now the very next game it is going to happen again and you all again are gonna ignore it again and probably mislynch again?

Where did he do it last game? Just to compare.
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VeryInsane posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't like the idea of Corrik actively not participating again.

Actually can you explain what you mean by this

? You were the host of Chrono Trigger! He was a waste of a player spot in Chrono Trigger with his play and from what I have read in this topic it isn't much a difference but he's a claimed cop.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik posted...

This is factually incorrect. Known a lot for bussing and for giving out accurate fake scans as scum.

Ulti is honestly so obvious scum at this point that its wild.

K, Corrik claims scum. Good to know.

Thankfully I don't need to convince scum they're scum and my play is vastly better than yours in this game =)

Well. Batting 1000 on day 1 again. If town can't vote you out at this point then i don't care.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't like the idea of Corrik actively not participating again.

Actually can you explain what you mean by this

? You were the host of Chrono Trigger! He was a waste of a player spot in Chrono Trigger with his play and from what I have read in this topic it isn't much a difference but he's a claimed cop.

Does this guy every game just barely play and try to call me out every game when I have done more than him in every game he complains about me in? Starting to look like a vendetta and you are not rly here to play
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eaedwards6400 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't like the idea of Corrik actively not participating again.

Actually can you explain what you mean by this

? You were the host of Chrono Trigger! He was a waste of a player spot in Chrono Trigger with his play and from what I have read in this topic it isn't much a difference but he's a claimed cop.

Well I didn't really know what you meant by this

Do you think he's town? Do you think he's scum?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I don't like the idea of Corrik actively not participating again.

Actually can you explain what you mean by this

? You were the host of Chrono Trigger! He was a waste of a player spot in Chrono Trigger with his play and from what I have read in this topic it isn't much a difference but he's a claimed cop.

Corrik has been night and day from d1 Corrik in CT.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik posted...

So I pointed out Ultis scumtell last game, he did it, and you all mislynched.

Now the very next game it is going to happen again and you all again are gonna ignore it again and probably mislynch again?

VeryInsane is a much better player than you are, which is why killing him first is more important. You will always be useless to any team you're on until you fix your attitude problem.

What in the literal hell are you even talking about? Like 8 ppl don't ever want to play in a game ever with you again.

Holy hell.

Can anyone go back to last game and reread what I said Scum ulti does? Can anyone go back to the mylo of the one game Ulti did the same thing and I hounded for 8 hours to have him lynched? I have never understood why Ulti literally plays the exact same way as Scum literally every game and everyone is afraid to lynch him.
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##unvote: Leo

Yeah I forgot about Kanz's minion for a moment there.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik posted...

Does this guy every game just barely play and try to call me out every game when I have done more than him in every game he complains about me in? Starting to look like a vendetta and you are not rly here to play

Nah you're just an easy scum read for anyone with a pulse.

Literally the best Scum player on this board and any unbiased mind will readily vouch for that. I have lost 2 scum games ever. 1 of which was a game you hosted that was broken. And been lynched 3 times ever as scum.
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To be fair, I have only read topic 2 and the first couple of pages of topic 1. Corrik, I would hardly call me doing it in this game and CT every game. Those are the only 2 I remember playing with you in.

And Shad if he is night and day from CT isn't that a tell? Because he was actually town despite the way he acted.
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Well, I will see you all day 2 (obvs cop saving me). Ulti is scum and if his own play has not made that obvious by now than I cannot help you anymore, as clearly you will not listen nor just verify through the literal last game.
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Doc*
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I'm actually hoping that I'm reading Ulti wrong and both him and Corrik are scum.
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Ulti you're like quadruple posting.
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Not as good as your meltdown last game.
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Shaduln posted...

I'm actually hoping that I'm reading Ulti wrong and both him and Corrik are scum.

I absolutely think they are both scum, this feels like an elaborate distraction in an attempt to either waste all of our time and energy, have one of them flip therefore clearing the other in a sense, or just hope that everyone ignores it and stops looking at them.
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##Unvote: Leo

Probably good guy double voter then
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I dunno, @UltimaterializerX

Usually when Ulti regurgitates that kind of annoyance it happens to be scum Ulti, as, to quote from a PM I read a year ago from you


I didn't think I was breaking any rules, but sure no problem.

(the strategy here is town hates tunnel-fights and usually doesn't lynch either guy crapping on one another, but you're the host so I'll listen! <3)

Ulti was scum that game, one which I hosted.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Shaduln posted...

I'm actually hoping that I'm reading Ulti wrong and both him and Corrik are scum.

I absolutely think they are both scum, this feels like an elaborate distraction in an attempt to either waste all of our time and energy, have one of them flip therefore clearing the other in a sense, or just hope that everyone ignores it and stops looking at them.

If it means we get scum d1 fine by me. The other one would be in no way clear.
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VeryInsane posted...

I dunno, @UltimaterializerX

Usually when Ulti regurgitates that kind of annoyance it happens to be scum Ulti, as, to quote from a PM I read a year ago from you


I didn't think I was breaking any rules, but sure no problem.

(the strategy here is town hates tunnel-fights and usually doesn't lynch either guy crapping on one another, but you're the host so I'll listen! <3)

Ulti was scum that game, one which I hosted.

Well that fits quite well with...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

just hope that everyone ignores it and stops looking at them.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Shaduln posted...

Ulti you're like quadruple posting.

Catching scum is fun man =(

It's the best part of mafia. I can't help it. Being scum just ain't the same, because nothing compares to being town and scumhunting people.

But I can take a hint and post less if you really want. I don't need to convince scum they're scum anyway.

The posting itself is fine, it was just literally the same post. >_>
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I can't wait for one of Corrik or Ulti to flip town, and then the other immediately go "HA I actually knew they were town the whole time!"
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Shaduln posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Shaduln posted...

I'm actually hoping that I'm reading Ulti wrong and both him and Corrik are scum.

I absolutely think they are both scum, this feels like an elaborate distraction in an attempt to either waste all of our time and energy, have one of them flip therefore clearing the other in a sense, or just hope that everyone ignores it and stops looking at them.

If it means we get scum d1 fine by me. The other one would be in no way clear.

Yea, I know that the point was that if they are both scum they would be banking on people thinking there is no way they would bus each other that hard.
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Shaduln posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Shaduln posted...

Ulti you're like quadruple posting.

Catching scum is fun man =(

It's the best part of mafia. I can't help it. Being scum just ain't the same, because nothing compares to being town and scumhunting people.

But I can take a hint and post less if you really want. I don't need to convince scum they're scum anyway.

The posting itself is fine, it was just literally the same post. >_>

@UltimaterializerX did this in Hearthstone with Han as scum, IIRC.
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