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Antifar
03/19/17 6:26:58 PM
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http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-wont-charge-prison-guards-who-boiled-schizophrenic-black-man-darren-rainey-to-death-9213190

On June 23, 2012, Darren Rainey, a schizophrenic man serving time for cocaine possession, was thrown into a prison shower at the Dade Correctional Institution. The water was turned up top 180 degrees — hot enough to steep tea or cook Ramen noodles.

As punishment, four corrections officers — John Fan Fan, Cornelius Thompson, Ronald Clarke and Edwina Williams — kept Rainey in that shower for two full hours. Rainey was heard screaming "Please take me out! I can’t take it anymore!” and kicking the shower door. Inmates said prison guards laughed at Rainey and shouted "Is it hot enough?"

Rainey died inside that shower. He was found crumpled on the floor. When his body was pulled out, nurses said there were burns on 90 percent of his body. A nurse said his body temperature was too high to register with a thermometer. And his skin fell off at the touch.

But in an unconscionable decision, Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle's office announced Friday that the four guards who oversaw what amounted to a medieval-era boiling will not be charged with a crime.

“The shower was itself neither dangerous nor unsafe,’’ the report says. “The evidence does not show that Rainey’s well-being was grossly disregarded by the correctional staff.’’

Rundle's office announced the results of its investigation in a Friday afternoon news-dump, the kind that public officials typically only use to bury unflattering news or information. Rundle's office would clearly like this case to vanish over the weekend — but the facts of the case are so inhumanely grotesque that the decision should haunt the office for eternity.

Rundle took over as Miami-Dade's top prosecutor in the 1990s, after then-State Attorney Janet Reno left to join the Bill Clinton administration. She has remained the state attorney every since. In that time, she has never charged a Miami police officer for an on-duty shooting.

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ssj3vegeta
03/19/17 6:31:29 PM
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whitelytning
03/19/17 6:32:05 PM
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The article also says:

Fernandez Rundle's 72-page close-out memo leans heavily on an autopsy that has been roundly criticized by civil-rights advocates. The report claims Rainey was not found with burns when he died. Howard Simon, executive director of the Florida American Civil Liberties Association, has said in the past that the autopsy, which was leaked to the press during the investigation, showed that a federal investigation was needed.

Rundle's office, however, noted that one Miami-Dade County cop reported that nurses said Rainey's body had "red areas" on it, and that his skin was, indeed, "slipping off" after being removed from the shower. Rundle's memo said, however, that this could have instead been due to "body decomposition," rather than burns.

"In response to specific questions by Detective Sanchez regarding burns, Dr. [Emma] Lew advised that Rainey did not sustain any obvious external injuries, and, particularly, that there were no thermal injuries (burns) of any kind on his body," the report says. It then adds that from 2012 to 2014, no cause of death was determined.

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Paper_Okami
03/19/17 6:33:19 PM
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Fucking disgusting rundle should lose her position and law degree.
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WizardPowers
03/19/17 6:33:52 PM
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The American justice system folks
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Frolex
03/19/17 6:34:42 PM
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whitelytning
03/19/17 6:35:31 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Fucking disgusting rundle should lose her position and law degree.


For not wasting tax payer dollars on prosecuting a case she doesn't feel she can win?

Makes sense.
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Skye Reynolds
03/19/17 6:36:42 PM
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If you like doing illegal things, become a cop.
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Mystere
03/19/17 6:36:45 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Fucking disgusting rundle should lose her position and law degree.

They should lose their senses. Make them deaf and blind and then leave them alone.
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Axiom
03/19/17 6:38:12 PM
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Antifar posted...
As punishment, four corrections officers — John Fan Fan, Cornelius Thompson, Ronald Clarke and Edwina Williams — kept Rainey in that shower for two full hours. Rainey was heard screaming "Please take me out! I can’t take it anymore!” and kicking the shower door. Inmates said prison guards laughed at Rainey and shouted "Is it hot enough?"

Fucking monsters
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zombiexdeathx
03/19/17 6:38:13 PM
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thats just sickening
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Smashingpmkns
03/19/17 6:38:36 PM
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Antifar posted...
â€The shower was itself neither dangerous nor unsafe,’’ the report says. â€The evidence does not show that Rainey’s well-being was grossly disregarded by the correctional staff.’’


This makes my stomach turn
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Mystere
03/19/17 6:41:10 PM
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Those guards deserve ALS.
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Keith_Valentine
03/19/17 6:41:17 PM
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If this is true, they are all guilty or complicit in manslaughter, and should be prosecuted immediately
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Paper_Okami
03/19/17 6:43:40 PM
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http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2002-09-25/news/0209240579_1_rundle-s-pocket-justin-robert-rundle-marijuana

Rundle's son got a plea deal for weed.
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prince_leo
03/19/17 6:44:34 PM
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whitelytning
03/19/17 6:46:21 PM
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David Weinstein, a former federal prosecutor who reviewed the report for the Herald, said it’s clear that the evidence did not meet the legal standard required to charge any of the officers with a crime.

“If you want to buy the government-conspiracy theory that the state attorney never charges corrections officers because they are part of the conspiracy, you are going to say they twisted the facts to support their theory,” he said.

“But if you look at it objectively, I don’t disagree with the results that were released. The only person that says that Rainey was burned and scalded was one inmate — and when you compare that to the rest of the evidence, it’s not consistent.”


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article139206653.html

Its clearly not as cut and dry as the way the OP edited the article he cited. I'm admittedly picking and choosing the other end, but from reading both the entire New Times article and the one from the Herald its pretty clear that there are issues with what factually happened and the state doesn't feel they have enough to go forward with a homicide case. They would be doing more wrong by going forward on a case they know they can't win.
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Mystere
03/19/17 6:46:52 PM
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What the fuck is wrong with Florida?
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Freddie_Mercury
03/19/17 6:57:37 PM
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the important thing to remember here is that blue lives matter
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Mystere
03/19/17 7:01:11 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
the important thing to remember here is that blue lives matter

Couldn't help it.

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thronedfire2
03/19/17 7:07:56 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
the important thing to remember here is that blue lives matter


they should have used cold water, he would be blue
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HaVeNII7
03/19/17 7:09:54 PM
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Well, they ARE prison guards after all. Hopefully they're murdered soon.
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Mystere
03/19/17 7:13:11 PM
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HaVeNII7 posted...
Well, they ARE prison guards after all. Hopefully they're murdered soon.

You can bet on that. The lifers will put him down.
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Ving_Rhames
03/19/17 7:18:32 PM
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That's just horrible man, Rundle should lose everything she has.
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_RETS_
03/20/17 2:27:31 PM
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The ME said he did not suffer any burns of any kind.
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weapon_d00d816
03/20/17 2:38:36 PM
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There is definitely some conflicting information here.

Also, did the guards know how hot they turned it up? It's only natural (but careless) to assume the hottest setting on a shower won't literally maim and kill someone. It's still horrible what they intended to do but I don't think one could differentiate death screams from normal screams of burning pain.
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Mystere
03/22/17 12:24:22 AM
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They'll face inmates who don't care and have been studying their every move for months so they know the exact time and place to handle things.
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FurryPhilosifer
03/22/17 12:26:31 AM
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I remember reading about this when it happened. The guy's skin was sloughing off. Horrible horrible horrible.
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SK8T3R215
03/22/17 12:27:25 AM
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Why didn't he turn the cold knob or just move out of the stream of water?
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MARKINGRAM22
03/22/17 12:27:51 AM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
the important thing to remember here is that blue lives matter

The important thing is the idea that these scumbags are supposed to represent 100s of thousands of cops to you. When someone of a certain race or ethnicity does something does that make it fair to paint that entire group with a broad brush over various anecdotes? You realize your dumb generalizations don't help over policing and the effect our incarceration rate has on black markets and lowering of hiring standards based on need right?
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CruorComa
03/22/17 12:31:58 AM
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Frolex posted...
Just a few bad apples

Skye Reynolds posted...
If you like doing illegal things, become a cop.

Skye Reynolds posted...Freddie_Mercury posted...
the important thing to remember here is that blue lives matter


You guys are aware that Security and Police are different entities, yeah?
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CowboyDan
03/22/17 12:32:12 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
There is definitely some conflicting information here.

Also, did the guards know how hot they turned it up? It's only natural (but careless) to assume the hottest setting on a shower won't literally maim and kill someone. It's still horrible what they intended to do but I don't think one could differentiate death screams from normal screams of burning pain.


This is arguably the worst defense I've seen for anything, ever. Especially the last sentence.
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weapon_d00d816
03/22/17 12:40:41 AM
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CowboyDan posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
There is definitely some conflicting information here.

Also, did the guards know how hot they turned it up? It's only natural (but careless) to assume the hottest setting on a shower won't literally maim and kill someone. It's still horrible what they intended to do but I don't think one could differentiate death screams from normal screams of burning pain.


This is arguably the worst defense I've seen for anything, ever. Especially the last sentence.

I don't give a shit if it wasn't eloquent enough for you. It makes perfect sense when you take it for what it is.
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CowboyDan
03/22/17 12:42:01 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
CowboyDan posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
There is definitely some conflicting information here.

Also, did the guards know how hot they turned it up? It's only natural (but careless) to assume the hottest setting on a shower won't literally maim and kill someone. It's still horrible what they intended to do but I don't think one could differentiate death screams from normal screams of burning pain.


This is arguably the worst defense I've seen for anything, ever. Especially the last sentence.

I don't give a shit if it wasn't eloquent enough for you. It makes perfect sense when you take it for what it is.

No, no it really doesn't.
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action52
03/22/17 12:53:37 AM
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CowboyDan posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
CowboyDan posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
There is definitely some conflicting information here.

Also, did the guards know how hot they turned it up? It's only natural (but careless) to assume the hottest setting on a shower won't literally maim and kill someone. It's still horrible what they intended to do but I don't think one could differentiate death screams from normal screams of burning pain.


This is arguably the worst defense I've seen for anything, ever. Especially the last sentence.

I don't give a shit if it wasn't eloquent enough for you. It makes perfect sense when you take it for what it is.

No, no it really doesn't.

So I guess you're saying it's okay for prison guards to subject inmates to excruciating pain as long as they don't kill them?
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Tombawocxer
03/22/17 1:26:56 AM
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where's that gif of bugs bunny sawing off florida?
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Gamer99z
03/22/17 1:32:13 AM
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They all deserve the exact same thing, as well as the people letting them off.
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RickyTheBAWSE
03/28/17 4:12:42 AM
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yeah, it's hard to spin this into the defense of the guards without sounding like a complete clown.

thin blue line.
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ShutTheHellUp
03/28/17 5:34:02 PM
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Now that they're ruling his murder an accident, are they essentially saying they just meant to boil him BUT NOT kill him?

Great defense.
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daftpunk_mk5
03/28/17 5:44:05 PM
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No he wasnt boiled alive. Boiling point is 212 degrees.
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ScazarMeltex
03/28/17 6:03:30 PM
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Isolated incident #347
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Drasilor
04/03/17 4:05:55 AM
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Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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Delirious_Beard
04/03/17 4:11:53 AM
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holy shit
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Mystere
04/04/17 10:36:31 PM
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The inmates still haven't taken care of this?
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Trigg3rH4ppy
04/04/17 10:43:10 PM
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I'm just lol'ing at how many idiots think prison security guards are anywhere close to being cops. If you think cops have power trip issues, then imagine a guy who couldn't make it as a cop. that's usually what prison security guards are, people who failed at becoming a cop.
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WesternMedia
04/06/17 8:21:03 PM
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welp
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