Board 8 > EVO 2K12 Disc. pt. 5 - Day 2/Finals [FIGHTING GAMES] [UMvC3] [ST Legends] [more]

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A_FamiIy_Man
07/08/12 12:39:00 AM
#308:


From: OmarsComin | #302
haha all the stream monsters like "WHERE'S THE AUDIO"

So was I >_>

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 12:40:00 AM
#309:


Like I'm not nearly as hard on current Capcom as Omars is, but this is just a simple matter of Capcom's current games clearly trying to have a broad appeal while the Darkstalkers series has always been one of the more complex/difficult/niche/whatever Capcom fighting games. That's not a good combination for a sequel right now.

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:41:00 AM
#310:


sf4 best game ever

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/08/12 12:42:00 AM
#311:


Most people asking for a new Darkstalkers haven't even played any Darkstalkers games, they just know the characters from the vs games.

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 12:43:00 AM
#312:


From: SSJSephirothGokuX123 | #311
Most people asking for a new Darkstalkers haven't even played any Darkstalkers games, they just know the characters from the vs games.

Pretty much.

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 12:45:00 AM
#313:


I talk a lot of mess about the new games, but really I don't think SF4 is awful. at least not at the level I play it at (low). I'm struck with skepticism when I hear about how high level play revolves around OS though.

I never played much Marvel, I'm really not qualified to talk about it.

SFxT I don't like but that's not an uncommon feeling.

mostly I just like 3s and ST a lot. they're really fun. I've been playing more CvS2 and VSav over the last 6 months or so as well, those are good also. it seems like post 2008 Capcom and pre 2008 Capcom had some really different design philosophies in regards to FGs. personally the earlier stuff appeals to me more.

I do wish more people would try 3s now, but there's been so much written and so much misunderstanding about it it's tough to convince people these days. especially when most people still playing 3s have been playing forever and people just walk in and eat throws and supers all day, get all their zoning parried and are like "this game is awful." there's not a lot of opportunity to learn how the game's really supposed to be played unless you're already interested and wanna watch a lot of Japan and Denjin/FFA videos.

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KanzarisKelshen
07/08/12 12:45:00 AM
#314:


From: Rad Link 5 | #309
Like I'm not nearly as hard on current Capcom as Omars is, but this is just a simple matter of Capcom's current games clearly trying to have a broad appeal while the Darkstalkers series has always been one of the more complex/difficult/niche/whatever Capcom fighting games. That's not a good combination for a sequel right now.


To be fair, some of the stuff that happens in VSav is a pile of lol. See: the pushblock method. It could easily afford to have some casualization (read: making systems less dumb). Nothing says it has to be made super easy though.

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:48:00 AM
#315:


i think a major reason i am not too keen on getting into 3s is that none of the cast really interests me

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:48:00 AM
#316:


CAMMY ON STREAM

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KanzarisKelshen
07/08/12 12:49:00 AM
#317:


From: OmarsComin | #313
I talk a lot of mess about the new games, but really I don't think SF4 is awful. at least not at the level I play it at (low). I'm struck with skepticism when I hear about how high level play revolves around OS though.

I never played much Marvel, I'm really not qualified to talk about it.

SFxT I don't like but that's not an uncommon feeling.

mostly I just like 3s and ST a lot. they're really fun. I've been playing more CvS2 and VSav over the last 6 months or so as well, those are good also. it seems like post 2008 Capcom and pre 2008 Capcom had some really different design philosophies in regards to FGs. personally the earlier stuff appeals to me more.

I do wish more people would try 3s now, but there's been so much written and so much misunderstanding about it it's tough to convince people these days. especially when most people still playing 3s have been playing forever and people just walk in and eat throws and supers all day, get all their zoning parried and are like "this game is awful." there's not a lot of opportunity to learn how the game's really supposed to be played unless you're already interested and wanna watch a lot of Japan and Denjin/FFA videos.


Not really, at all. The people who worked on 3S passed taught their craft to new guys or are still there. Ono is a good example of this: in the same interview where he explained in no uncertain terms how sick of CapCom's practices he was, he said that there was absolutely no 'lucking into' 3S being as good as you think it is. He explicitly said the design team had gone 'we can't do better than this. This is an amazing game. There's nothing to improve'. You're not giving CapCom's designers enough credit. Their management is draconian and horrendous, but the guys who actually get stuff done really, really love making games and know how to do it.

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 12:49:00 AM
#318:


I hear ST has Cammy in it

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 12:49:00 AM
#319:


Taekura taking a game over Justin Wong in ST top 8.

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A_FamiIy_Man
07/08/12 12:49:00 AM
#320:


Ohh man ohh man ohh man it just hit me. Spooky is going to stop streaming after tomorrow. I'm really really really gonna miss the guys streams. He has an amazing personality and he does great commentary too.

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:50:00 AM
#321:


OmarsComin posted...
I hear ST has Cammy in it


in ST's case, i don't want to end up losing my sf4 cammy >_>

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 12:51:00 AM
#323:


SUUUUUPER STREEEET FIIIGHTER 2 TUUUURBOOOOOO

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Shoenin_Kakashi
07/08/12 12:51:00 AM
#324:


honestly ST cammy isnt that much different from SF4 Cammy.


Just no Divekick is all.

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 12:51:00 AM
#325:


That setup is fantastic

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 12:51:00 AM
#326:


10-4? wow

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 12:53:00 AM
#327:


nerf Vega

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:53:00 AM
#328:


CAMMY'S THEME ON STAGE

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KateWadman
07/08/12 12:53:00 AM
#329:


HYOOOOOO HYOOOOOOO

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 12:53:00 AM
#330:


GOD DAMMIT VEGA

GOD DAMMIT

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KateWadman
07/08/12 12:53:00 AM
#331:


Vega so sexy

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:54:00 AM
#332:


wow this looks like the first time i fought a vega online in sf4

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Shoenin_Kakashi
07/08/12 12:54:00 AM
#333:


THATS CAMMY'S STAGE


also **** claw

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 12:56:00 AM
#334:


This match is hype as f***. I love both these guys.

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 12:56:00 AM
#335:


friends don't let friends play Claw

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 12:56:00 AM
#336:


that stage should be in sf4

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skull_bonek23
07/08/12 12:56:00 AM
#337:


I've only played a little bit of Darkstalkers ( I mained Jedah when I was terrible at fighting games) and I would love a new game. Most of the fun for fighting games for me comes from learning about all of the new characters and finding one that fits for me. And then getting better with that character takes the rest of the fun. You might as well give the new game the benefit of the doubt because it's not like the old games stop existing just because a new game comes out.


Unless it's bad like 3S or something

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 12:57:00 AM
#338:


suck it tokido

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 12:58:00 AM
#339:


From: skull_bonek23 | #337
You might as well give the new game the benefit of the doubt because it's not like the old games stop existing just because a new game comes out.

That's not true at all.

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skull_bonek23
07/08/12 12:59:00 AM
#340:


Rad Link 5 posted...
From: skull_bonek23 | #337
You might as well give the new game the benefit of the doubt because it's not like the old games stop existing just because a new game comes out.

That's not true at all.


Unless it's bad like 3S or something

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 12:59:00 AM
#341:


Izuna drop madness over and over is so bad

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 1:00:00 AM
#342:


new games kill old games

there was so much backlash against SF4 when it first came out. it still killed 3s and CvS2 which had active scenes for a decade. at least 3s is still big in Japan. no one play CvS2 anywhere anymore.

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Weakupedia
07/08/12 1:01:00 AM
#343:


i wish i paid attention to the community when SF4 first came out. how bad was the reception?

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 1:01:00 AM
#344:


From: skull_bonek23 | #340
Rad Link 5 posted...
From: skull_bonek23 | #337
You might as well give the new game the benefit of the doubt because it's not like the old games stop existing just because a new game comes out.

That's not true at all.


Unless it's bad like 3S or something

No. It's just not true period.

In fact Street Fighter is like the only series where that's even a little true.

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 1:01:00 AM
#345:


Weakupedia posted...
i wish i paid attention to the community when SF4 first came out. how bad was the reception?




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skull_bonek23
07/08/12 1:02:00 AM
#346:


OmarsComin posted...
new games kill old games

there was so much backlash against SF4 when it first came out. it still killed 3s and CvS2 which had active scenes for a decade. at least 3s is still big in Japan. no one play CvS2 anywhere anymore.


Yeah and it revived a dead genre. Active scenes are great but not if there aren't any new players cycling into them.

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 1:03:00 AM
#347:


THAWK THAWK

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Shoenin_Kakashi
07/08/12 1:04:00 AM
#348:


Trolololol Hawk

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OmarsComin
07/08/12 1:04:00 AM
#349:


option select 360 T Hawk

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 1:04:00 AM
#350:


THAWK THAWK THAWK HYPE HYPE HYEOYEPIHrEFUW7

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Rad Link 5
07/08/12 1:05:00 AM
#351:


From: skull_bonek23 | #346
Yeah and it revived a dead genre. Active scenes are great but not if there aren't any new players cycling into them.

This is the stupidest argument.

The genre wasn't dead. It just wasn't mainstream anymore. Those are totally different things. There were still new people cycling in thanks to games like Guilty Gear; it just wasn't nearly the number of people Street Fighter IV brought in.

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 1:07:00 AM
#352:


down back time!

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TheKnightOfNee
07/08/12 1:08:00 AM
#353:


Oh my god this Honda

so good

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Shoenin_Kakashi
07/08/12 1:09:00 AM
#354:


MIKE KUSOMONDO ROSS

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KanzarisKelshen
07/08/12 1:09:00 AM
#355:


Which goes double considering right now we're seeing a game that got flat-out KILLED by a successor who was bad (ST and HDR, for those who are curious)...and yet here we are. It's super late and yet the hype is there. If the scene is dead, stop complaining and go revive it. If you want it hard enough you'll find the people who still want to play. If not, why are you complaining anyway? It's not a big deal to you.

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FFDragon
07/08/12 1:10:00 AM
#356:


what up troll hawk

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skull_bonek23
07/08/12 1:10:00 AM
#357:


Yeah and UltraDavid actually mentioned a player who is only here BECAUSE he started playing HDR. If anything a new Darkstalkers game would influence more people to play the old games.

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