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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 8:35:00 PM
#151:


SirDiemsma posted...
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Rondo guarded Wade and then James after playing 47 minutes

and now five more! Boston deserves to win this game


i don't know why this fact isn't more publicized, but lebron can be guarded very effectively by small guys who can stay in front of him. jason kidd had surprising success on him in last year's finals. everyone blamed lebron for disappearing but he legit has weird trouble with the smaller defenders.


rondo with the jump ball forced here... and of course we fail to protect the offensive glass

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Iamdead7
05/30/12 8:35:00 PM
#152:


Rondo can't do it alone

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transience
05/30/12 8:36:00 PM
#153:


James with two huge plays

I think Haslem is the most popular Heat player in Miami -- way moreso than Lebron or Wade

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MajinZidane
05/30/12 8:36:00 PM
#154:


this game is awesome but only because the heat are currently winning by a bit.

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TheConductorSix
05/30/12 8:36:00 PM
#155:


Miami gets easy baskets.

Boston does not.

Win or lose I have endless respect for the Celtics.

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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 8:36:00 PM
#156:


and rondo gets whacked in the face, no call

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AlphaRayAllen
05/30/12 8:37:00 PM
#157:


And here we go.

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MajinZidane
05/30/12 8:38:00 PM
#158:


wow.

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transience
05/30/12 8:38:00 PM
#159:


that could be game

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GaryOak151
05/30/12 8:38:00 PM
#160:


ball game

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Princess Anri
05/30/12 8:39:00 PM
#161:


F*** this.

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transience
05/30/12 8:39:00 PM
#162:


why don't Lebron/Wade set more picks for each other? I always wonder this. seemed to work great there.

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AlphaRayAllen
05/30/12 8:39:00 PM
#163:


Such a great game, ruined by refball.

Why?

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special_sauce
05/30/12 8:40:00 PM
#164:


flip table

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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 8:40:00 PM
#165:


JVG: that could have been called an offensive foul

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TheRock1525
05/30/12 8:40:00 PM
#166:


transience posted...
why don't Lebron/Wade set more picks for each other? I always wonder this. seemed to work great there.


Cause LeBron doesn't believe he's a power forward.

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transience
05/30/12 8:40:00 PM
#167:


ha, nice kick

Wade should have been called for the one on Rondo, but it didn't really affect the shot. and that one, who catches that? can't blame the refs for those calls.

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SpikeDragon
05/30/12 8:40:00 PM
#168:


Rondo gets smacked in the head and the refs don't call foul.

BULL MOTHERF***ING S***

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TheConductorSix
05/30/12 8:41:00 PM
#169:


Pierce sitting on the sideline for this says it all. He just can't do it anymore. Superstars don't foul out. Pierce is no longer that. Seeing the man whose carried the Celtics for a decade decline like this is sad. Kobe will be here soon and I'm not looking forward to it.

Dwayne Wade has a gift for getting to tue basket unlike anyone we've ever seen. Yes, better than Jordan. His body control and quickness is unparalleled.

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special_sauce
05/30/12 8:41:00 PM
#170:


they need to change the rules. basketball is not fun to watch when there are so many fouls
I don't even care about this game, it's just true. Watching some guys run around, waiting a minute, and then watching one guy shoot a ball from the free throw line does not make for exciting television

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AlphaRayAllen
05/30/12 8:43:00 PM
#171:


From: special_sauce | #170
they need to change the rules. basketball is not fun to watch when there are so many fouls

Depends on the team.

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transience
05/30/12 8:43:00 PM
#172:


feel for Boston here - they deserved this game. and not because of the refs, they just did everything they could.

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GaryOak151
05/30/12 8:45:00 PM
#173:


rondo is absurd.. i know it won't be enough but jesus christ. I don't like boston, at all but this is just an absurd performance. He did this to close out us too and I was wtfing, now i'm starting to think it wasnt a fluke

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voltch
05/30/12 8:45:00 PM
#174:


Man, Boston fans wanted to trade Rondo a few months ago, but he's kinda scary good at times.

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TheConductorSix
05/30/12 8:45:00 PM
#175:


Trust me when I say you must be a new basketball fan because I watched Basketball in the 90s when the Refs allowed fouls and hand checking.

Heat Knicks, Spurs Knicks, jazz bulls...ugly. Remember pistons spurs in the 2000s....woof.

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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 8:46:00 PM
#176:


i'd easily label this the best game of the postseason if it weren't for the abysmal taste it left in my mouth

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transience
05/30/12 8:47:00 PM
#177:


Rondo has games where he's amazing and games where he's just bafflingly bad. this was one of his amazing ones.

man. great game. I was sleeping on this series but now I'm checked in. have a hard time seeing Boston winning 4 of 5 though

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vcharon
05/30/12 8:47:00 PM
#178:


Blaming the refs has existed since basketball has existed. If you are a real NBA fan you know this, and you don't cry conspiracy or blame Stern for it.

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Princess Anri
05/30/12 8:47:00 PM
#179:


Yeah, SD.

Hard to call it the "best" while crying.

But it easily was.

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Iamdead7
05/30/12 8:47:00 PM
#180:


From: SirDiemsma | #176
i'd easily label this the best game of the postseason if it weren't for the abysmal taste it left in my mouth



This. I hate the Celtics, but holy crap that game. ugh.

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CherryCokes
05/30/12 8:51:00 PM
#182:


I think the Heat shot something like 31 free throws in the last 25 minutes of basketball.

The Celtics shot either 6 or 8.

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TheConductorSix
05/30/12 8:54:00 PM
#183:


Yeah. Pat Riley realized they couldn't stop Jordan with normal means so he bullied him and hacked him as hard as possible for 4 quarters.

The Pistons were the final nail in the coffin. After that Pistons/Spurs series the NBA realized they had to do something or ratings would die.

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special_sauce
05/30/12 8:55:00 PM
#184:


From: TheConductorSix | #175
Trust me when I say you must be a new basketball fan because I watched Basketball in the 90s when the Refs allowed fouls and hand checking.

Heat Knicks, Spurs Knicks, jazz bulls...ugly. Remember pistons spurs in the 2000s....woof.

Oh god no I'm not saying we go back to the days of the Bad Boy Pistons. I said change the rules, not eliminate them.

A proposal that Simmons made in his most recent column:

"There's a very easy fix — just tweak the rule so it's like the defensive three-second rule. If officials determine that a player who's not involved in the play was intentionally fouled for the specific reason to put him on the line, it's a technical foul and the player's team keeps possession. We'd never have to watch Hack-A-Shaq again."

EDIT: He also said this, and because I love Simmons I'll post it:
"Here's a good rule in general for all professional sports: If something sucks, you need to make the appropriate rule change so it doesn't suck anymore. This isn't rocket science."

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7988382/the-spurs-zombies-retro-diary

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TheRock1525
05/30/12 8:56:00 PM
#185:


Yep, Stern feared the Pistons so he had to change the rules.

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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 8:57:00 PM
#186:


i don't have a problem at all with the overall level of physicality the refs permitted and punished in this game - but i do have a big problem with the way it was slanted, especially on the two pivotal plays of the game (the no-call on rondo getting crushed, followed by the and-1 for wade)

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transience
05/30/12 9:00:00 PM
#187:


haha, Wally Szczerbiak is trending on twitter for calling KG a choker in the clutch

amazing

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Oranejo
05/30/12 9:02:00 PM
#188:


Rondo getting hit was definitely a foul, but he didn't get crushed. He really tried to oversell it when he got hit.

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StealThisSheen
05/30/12 9:02:00 PM
#189:


CherryCokes posted...
I think the Heat shot something like 31 free throws in the last 25 minutes of basketball.

The Celtics shot either 6 or 8.



It was around 30-14, give or take.

But it was only 13-12 in favor of Heat until the last minutes of the 4th and overtime.

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transience
05/30/12 9:04:00 PM
#190:


Boston's a jump shooting team. Miami is constantly attacking the hoop. Pierce, their main guy at attacking the hoop, had fouled out.

you can't just look at free throws and expect it to say anything. the call on Rondo is obvious a legit gripe, but you can't just look at the numbers like that.

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StealThisSheen
05/30/12 9:05:00 PM
#191:


transience posted...
Boston's a jump shooting team. Miami is constantly attacking the hoop. Pierce, their main guy at attacking the hoop, had fouled out.

you can't just look at free throws and expect it to say anything. the call on Rondo is obvious a legit gripe, but you can't just look at the numbers like that.



That's basically the point I'm making, yeah.

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Aecioo
05/30/12 9:05:00 PM
#192:


xfd people like this terrible sport

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CherryCokes
05/30/12 9:05:00 PM
#193:


This is the same Wally Szczerbiak who once seriously tried to get a max deal from the Timberwolves

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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 9:06:00 PM
#194:


is that account certified at all?

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SirDiemsma
05/30/12 9:07:00 PM
#195:


oh, and speaking of uncertified twitter

https://mobile.twitter.com/207934552163889153/about?user_id=Fake_Prokhorov

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CherryCokes
05/30/12 9:08:00 PM
#196:


From: transience | #190
Boston's a jump shooting team. Miami is constantly attacking the hoop. Pierce, their main guy at attacking the hoop, had fouled out.

you can't just look at free throws and expect it to say anything. the call on Rondo is obvious a legit gripe, but you can't just look at the numbers like that.


I'd like to see a shot chart in general, because I feel like the Heat shot far more from the perimeter than the Celtics did. And even so - 33 fouls to 18 is ridiculous, is it not?

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Iamdead7
05/30/12 9:09:00 PM
#197:


From: SirDiemsma | #195
oh, and speaking of uncertified twitter

https://mobile.twitter.com/207934552163889153/about?user_id=Fake_Prokhorov



So good

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CherryCokes
05/30/12 9:10:00 PM
#198:


From: SirDiemsma | #194
is that account certified at all?


think about what you are saying here

who would want to impersonate Wally Szczerbiak?

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StealThisSheen
05/30/12 9:11:00 PM
#199:


CherryCokes posted...
I'd like to see a shot chart in general, because I feel like the Heat shot far more from the perimeter than the Celtics did. And even so - 33 fouls to 18 is ridiculous, is it not?



http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320530014

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MZero11
05/30/12 9:15:00 PM
#200:


47-29 FT Differential. Pierce literally fouled out.

Rondo played a great game and it sucks he didn't get a W out of it. Oh well, going home let's pull what the Heat did in '06 against Dallas

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