Board 8 > I'm so confused by European Soccer

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Iamdead7
05/19/12 9:57:00 AM
#1:


Why is Chelsea getting to play Bayern Munich to be crowned champion of Europe when they didn't actually win their own league?

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/19/12 9:57:00 AM
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because who cares

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Sir Cobain
05/19/12 9:58:00 AM
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actually neither of them did

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/19/12 10:00:00 AM
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Sir Cobain posted...
actually neither of them did

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Iamdead7
05/19/12 10:28:00 AM
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more like just ignorance

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Kotetsu534
05/19/12 10:36:00 AM
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There are about 20 leagues in Europe (probably more) so having all the winners play each other at the end of each season would be pretty unrealistic (in fact, two weeks after this match, the European Championships, an international tournament played between countries, will begin, and will run for around a month). Instead, qualification for the Champions League (fancy name for "European Cup") is based on league performance in the preceeding year, and the competition takes place throughout the next season. The best leagues, as decided by club performance over the previous five years, get to have multiple teams entered (England, Spain and Germany, currently the best three leagues, get 4 teams in, while my country's league, Scotland, gets two teams into the qualifying rounds).

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Iamdead7
05/19/12 10:38:00 AM
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Ahhh so its the previous year. So do these teams still compete in their respective leagues or did Chelsea only play in the Champions for example

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Kotetsu534
05/19/12 10:50:00 AM
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They still compete in their own leagues.

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XIII_rocks
05/19/12 11:51:00 AM
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From: Iamdead7 | #007
Ahhh so its the previous year. So do these teams still compete in their respective leagues or did Chelsea only play in the Champions for example


Champions League isn't really a league, it's a knockout tournament with a mini-league as the first round.

But yeah if Chelsea don't win this game they won't be in the CL next season. They came sixth, so.

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Ryo8889
05/19/12 11:57:00 AM
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The way you describe it Iamdead is the way it was originally played.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956%E2%80%9357_European_Cup

This was the second European Cup, where champions of each competition played. Athletic Bilbao was champion of Spain so they got to play, but Real Madrid also got to play as they won the European Cup the year before.


A lot of people of the smaller countries (Denmark, Belgium, Serbia, Scotland, Netherlands etc.) are kind of upset with the new system as their clubs now almost always have to play preliminaries to get in the CL even though they are champions, while clubs like Chelsea or Tottenham can end fourth and still get to play.
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XIII_rocks
05/19/12 12:12:00 PM
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That's because they're crap.

If anything England, Spain, Italy and Germany don't get enough places.

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Ryo8889
05/19/12 12:15:00 PM
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The only reason they're crap is because all of the CL millions stay with those countries, so the strong stay strong and the weak stay weak. Ajax won plenty of CL titles before, but where are they now?
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Luis_Sera89
05/19/12 12:17:00 PM
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The strength of teams and leagues ebb and flow over the years. They've all had periods with a lack of success in European competition.

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XIII_rocks
05/19/12 12:33:00 PM
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Don't care.
They're crap. If you're letting 4 teams in from the Prem you might as well just let in 6.

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