Board 8 > Who here has tried out Project M? [Brawl][Melee][Smash]

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_stingers_
05/16/12 4:17:00 PM
#1:


They basically just changed Brawl to be more like Melee. The best part is, you don't even need to hack your wii, all you need is an SD card and you can run it without putting homebrew channel or anything on there. It's got new stages, music, all kinds of cool stuff.

Here's an example vid:
Aaand a download link if anyone is actually interested: http://projectm.dantarion.com/

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Weakupedia
05/16/12 4:30:00 PM
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i might have to look into this

how much did they mess with peach? because honestly i think i like her brawl incarnation much better than her melee one. it looks like they buffed her dsmash--i hope it's not stupid again!

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Emporer_Kazbar
05/16/12 4:36:00 PM
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From: _stingers_ | #001
They basically just changed Brawl to be more like Melee.


How different is it from Brawl+, Brawl- and that kind of ilk?

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Weakupedia
05/16/12 4:36:00 PM
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did dsmash just do 39 damage? lol
and they buffed her turnips? wtf

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_stingers_
05/16/12 6:19:00 PM
#5:


They made her more like melee, but shes got brawl utilt and (i think) dair. I don't like peach in this game, so I haven't used her much.

And Brawl+ and Brawl- are still brawl at heart, this is more Melee with brawl characters is the best way to put it.

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paperwarior
05/16/12 6:22:00 PM
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I'll definitely try this when it's complete.

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superange128
05/16/12 6:25:00 PM
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Im interseted in trying it

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superange128
05/16/12 6:29:00 PM
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oh guess I need an SD card

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ViviffTheMobile
05/16/12 6:54:00 PM
#9:


I actually tried it/won a tournament for it last week. It didn't seem to be hardcore Melee since I was the only Brawl-only player in the tourney. The skill transfer is confusing to me.

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_stingers_
05/16/12 7:03:00 PM
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From: ViviffTheMobile | #009
I actually tried it/won a tournament for it last week. It didn't seem to be hardcore Melee since I was the only Brawl-only player in the tourney. The skill transfer is confusing to me.


the top tiers from melee are pretty much 99% the same as melee. everyone else is decently changed. who did you use?

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_stingers_
05/16/12 7:03:00 PM
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From: paperwarior | #006
I'll definitely try this when it's complete.


it wont be complete for awhile, but it feels complete enough already. if you're interested, give it a shot now. unless you just want to use a character who's not in yet.

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ViviffTheMobile
05/16/12 7:19:00 PM
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I used Bowser because he seemed Brawl-like enough for me to get comfortable and just adjust to his kill moves/ frame changes. But Eggz (who is quite the filth-mongerer in Melee) was there and if it's supposed to be Melee then it should have been unsolicited butt-rape with his Fox present in the bracket.

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ViviffTheMobile
05/16/12 8:23:00 PM
#13:


Re-post with "appropriate" changes:

I used Bowser because he seemed Brawl-like enough for me to get comfortable and just adjust to his kill moves/ frame changes. But Eggz (who is quite the filth-mongerer in Melee) was there and if it's supposed to be Melee then it should have been unsolicited "destruction" with his Fox present in the bracket.

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HanOfTheNekos
05/16/12 8:38:00 PM
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ViviffTheMobile posted...
Re-post with "appropriate" changes:

I used Bowser because he seemed Brawl-like enough for me to get comfortable and just adjust to his kill moves/ frame changes. But Eggz (who is quite the filth-mongerer in Melee) was there and if it's supposed to be Melee then it should have been unsolicited "destruction" with his Fox present in the bracket.


Why did your other post get modded?

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ViviffTheMobile
05/16/12 9:19:00 PM
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I said butt-(forced sexual penetration). Fair enough.

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KommunistKoala
05/16/12 9:25:00 PM
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Sonic's really crazy/fun now imo

I played it at a friends place while taking shots. It was a good time

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superange128
05/16/12 9:30:00 PM
#17:


KommunistKoala posted...
Sonic's really crazy/fun now imo

I played it at a friends place while taking shots. It was a good time


And I thought he already was fun, this sounds cool

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_stingers_
05/17/12 12:01:00 AM
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its like sonic was always meant to be

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ViviffTheMobile
05/17/12 12:22:00 AM
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My guess would be not only new characters, but balance. I won a tournament with f***ing Bowser, so they've got that at least. But as a whole I agree, just play Melee, stop trying to live your unfulfilled dreams through all this hacking.

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Weakupedia
05/17/12 12:24:00 AM
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watching a marth video and seeing that they gave him his old B attack, I gotta wonder...if they're going to just make all the old characters pretty much exactly like they were in melee...why not just play melee?

It seems like they kept pretty much nothing from Brawl, save for a few buffs (Peach's utilt and sliding while throwing turnips) and changed everything back to the way it was in the previous game.

If it were me heading this project, I'd make the engine itself more like Melee (as they have), but keep specific changes to the characters' attacks as they were (barring the required adjustments for Melee's mechanics); Marth would still have his B stab, Sheik's fair would not be back to as good as it was before,Peach's second jump would still be low, etc. Hell, I'd probably even heavily consider leaving in Brawl's edge-latching mechanic!

The way things look, I wouldn't be surprised if they even got rid of all characters being able to grab the edge with their back turned!

I guess my point is if you're going to basically just make everyone pretty much EXACTLY like they were in Melee...what's the damn point? If that makes sense.

And don't say "new characters" because I will stomp on your nuts.

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Blairville
05/17/12 12:34:00 AM
#21:


It's mostly the high/top tier characters that are extremely similar to their Melee counterparts. Try the new Bowser, for example. And honestly, seeing what they did to the Brawl characters is pretty damn cool. Just look at ROB, or Lucario, or Snake, or hell, all of them.

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Weakupedia
05/17/12 12:37:00 AM
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That's true, I guess I didn't actually factor in the non-marth/peach/sheik/fox characters, heh.

Still, I dunno, the unwillingness to move on from beloved characters (i.e. characters that people actually cared to play) irks me in some weird way. Maybe I'm just a sourpuss.

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ViviffTheMobile
05/17/12 12:47:00 AM
#23:


New Snake is butthole and not fun to play at all.

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_stingers_
05/17/12 1:09:00 AM
#24:


what do you mean by brawls edge latching mechanic? ledge mechanics are largely unchanged from brawl AFAIK

and new snake isnt fun in a brawl sense. he's played very differently now. I played a very good one earlier today, he's mainly about pressuring with his up b for easy combos at low %s and then planting mines around the field and pressuring people onto them at higher percents. he can move during his grab like DK now which helps him a lot in that regard.

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KommunistKoala
05/17/12 1:17:00 AM
#25:


Also I dunno about getting rid of Wario's bike.

I wish I had played more characters, but we didn't have the time.

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TheRock1525
05/17/12 1:19:00 AM
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Just so I'm not crazy...

That's a FFVII Boss Battle remix, isn't it?

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KingOfTheKoopas
05/17/12 11:34:00 AM
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I presume the "edge-latching" refers to edge-snapping on UpBs, which as much as I love it doesn't fit in well with Melee physics, given the inability of most to grab the ledge behind them, and the overall worse recovery of most making trying to edge-guard like in Brawl a near suicide mission every time.

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_stingers_
05/17/12 4:28:00 PM
#28:


you don't auto edge snap anymore, but you do grab the ledge when your back is facing it (didnt happen in melee)

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