Board 8 > People who keep talking to you even if you clearly don't listen are the worst.

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KingButz
05/16/12 12:48:00 PM
#101:


From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #099
drastically reduce your posting.


The more you post, the more people will dislike you.

So stop it

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AlphaRayAllen
05/16/12 1:14:00 PM
#102:


From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #065
That said, at least 95% of the time they are terrible users. Make a list of the people who have been "ganged up on" over the last few years. Then ask yourself, who in there is a good poster?

No matter what "the hivemind" or "the clique" or whatver says, you'd never be able to get everyone to gang up on Chris or Ed or anyone. Because they're good posters and worthwhile human beings.


Are you even listening to yourself? "Worthwhile human beings?" Who the f*** do you think you are?

After I had my little episode where I more or less swore that I would change, people wouldn't stop giving me crap for any reason. On several different occasions, I posted an opinion or a thought. Not inflammatory in the least. And a choice few users stopped to say "I thought you promised to stop being so awful."

You guys don't read the post, you read the user name and then focus your energy on that. Ayuyu doesn't look good in this topic, but people have been on his back for the past month for more minor s***. And you're doing this because he's a bad poster? Who gives a rat's ass, if he's so bad, don't read his posts. Not a worthwhile person? Oh, I'm so sorry, your majesty, I didn't know that Ayuyu was a f***ing peasant.

See, people act like I'm nuts when I say that you guys have your heads shoved so far up your collective ass that you can't see daylight anymore, but then I read stuff like that and I realize just how right I am.

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_Carlemagne_
05/16/12 1:23:00 PM
#103:


Remember back during MPFC when the MLP was in the contest?

remember when he posted that guro picture to show that it had normal endurance?

He literally thought that was a good idea. This is the type of poster/person we are dealing with.

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AlecTrevelyan006
05/16/12 1:35:00 PM
#104:


From: AlphaRayAllen | #102
Are you even listening to yourself? "Worthwhile human beings?" Who the f*** do you think you are?

After I had my little episode where I more or less swore that I would change, people wouldn't stop giving me crap for any reason. On several different occasions, I posted an opinion or a thought. Not inflammatory in the least. And a choice few users stopped to say "I thought you promised to stop being so awful."

You guys don't read the post, you read the user name and then focus your energy on that. Ayuyu doesn't look good in this topic, but people have been on his back for the past month for more minor s***. And you're doing this because he's a bad poster? Who gives a rat's ass, if he's so bad, don't read his posts. Not a worthwhile person? Oh, I'm so sorry, your majesty, I didn't know that Ayuyu was a f***ing peasant.

See, people act like I'm nuts when I say that you guys have your heads shoved so far up your collective ass that you can't see daylight anymore, but then I read stuff like that and I realize just how right I am.


I can't speak for others regarding you, but I am fairly certain that I have not posted anything negative about you since your return. I've also not really noticed your posts for the most part. So definitely an improvement according to the 100% reliable mathematical principle posted on the previous page.

I was being somewhat facetious with the "worthwhile human beings" part. This should have been obvious, as I would never seriously call Ed Bellis a worthwhile human being.

Further, I came into this topic not having checked the TC. If I had seen it was an Ayuyu topic, I probably would not have entered and saved myself some time.

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KingButz
05/16/12 1:38:00 PM
#105:


I purposely ignored this topic for a while specifically because it was an Ayuyu topic!

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AlecTrevelyan006
05/16/12 1:40:00 PM
#106:


I don't like to ignore users because if it is in somebody else's topic (other than the ignored user), if the ignored user posts, other people respond to them and it all messes with the flow of conversation.

I should highlight Ayuyu posts though, then I won't accidentally go into his topics.

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MrGreenonion
05/16/12 1:47:00 PM
#109:


From: UltimaterializerX | #107
There would be no white knighting in this topic if the guy rambling were a random terminal bum on the street instead of a relative.


Yes, that's... kind of the point.

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KingButz
05/16/12 1:51:00 PM
#111:


oh Ulti

topic now derailed

(Thank God)

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CycloRaptor
05/16/12 1:53:00 PM
#112:


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VincentLauw
05/16/12 1:54:00 PM
#114:


From: AlphaRayAllen | #102
After I had my little episode where I more or less swore that I would change, people wouldn't stop giving me crap for any reason. On several different occasions, I posted an opinion or a thought. Not inflammatory in the least. And a choice few users stopped to say "I thought you promised to stop being so awful."


I've posted that like once or twice and it was because you were falling into old habits of attacking other users for no reason

it was not uncalled for. And if you really think it was you have not changed at all.

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MrGreenonion
05/16/12 2:18:00 PM
#115:


From: UltimaterializerX | #110
Not really. For the most part, people with cancer don't want to be treated special because it reminds them of their illness. Same goes for almost any mental disorder, handicap or whatever else. Treating them like you would anyone else, and acting like yourself, really isn't hard and they appreciate it a lot. I said nothing unfair there.


I didn't mean about the cancer, I just meant that in general you should treat your family better than random bums, which it sounded like you were arguing against. Maybe I misunderstood!

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Ayuyu
05/16/12 2:27:00 PM
#117:


My uncle is a pretty nice guy but his incessant talking is extremely insufferable and pretty much everybody in my family is aware of it.

In fact, my sister just gave a call and I answered and it pretty much went like this '' So you're spending some times at our parents place? '' '' Yeah, but they're gone atm so I'm alone with our uncle '' '' Oh boy! You're hanging on? ''

Pretty much nobody wants to be alone with him because of it, sad but that's how it is.

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OmarsComin
05/16/12 6:14:00 PM
#118:


You guys overreact too much. There is nothing wrong with ignoring someone who is rambling your ear off about things you don't care about, regardless of what may be wrong with them. I've dealt with a lot of terminal and handicapped people, and all any of them want is to be treated normally by everyone else.

Ignoring someone with verbal diarrhea is quite a normal reaction, and ganging up on someone for doing this just because you don't like them only proves you're a bunch of mob mentality 20-somethings still in high school who needed to grow up years ago. There would be no white knighting in this topic if the guy rambling were a random terminal bum on the street instead of a relative.

Ayuyu isn't the worst at all, though obviously he has his issues. A bunch of otherwise intelligent and insightful guys acting like children, however, is pretty goddamn pathetic. If you care so much about the stories of family members, try remembering the one your parents probably told you about ignoring the people you don't like.


This dude is saying that ignoring a dying family member is the right thing to do, because if he was actually nice to him he'd only remind him that he's dying. It really is not hard to be nice to people, even people you dislike. Doesn't Ayuyu work retail? I'm sure he listens to stories he doesn't care about every day. It's not hard to extend the same courtesy to family members. I would under any circumstance, like "oh we're visiting and they wanna talk about their life." They're family, you listen to their stories even if you don't care about them. Or when people are dying and just want to make a connection with someone, you listen to them even if you wouldn't normally. It's called "having empathy" and it seems to be something Ayuyu lacks completely. When I read this story I don't think "man that uncle sure does sound annoying" I think "I'm glad that such an uncaring self-entitled brat is not related to me."

There is no hive mind, Ayuyu is getting the reaction that is appropriate. Most people deserve the reaction they get here. There have been some who don't, but this isn't one of those situations. And for what it's worth you have been involved in more than your fair share of B8 bullying, probably more than anyone else here. And now you're lecturing us for thinking someone is an awful human being for doing awful human being stuff? Get that s*** out of here.

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Ayuyu
05/16/12 6:26:00 PM
#119:


From: OmarsComin | #118
Doesn't Ayuyu work retail? I'm sure he listens to stories he doesn't care about every day


Oh I actually care then, because work is boring so at least listening to them makes time pass faster.

When I'm not at work I want to do other things though, like relax, play video games, listen to music and work on my papers.

I don't have anything against talking to people and listening to them, I talked 1h over the phone with my sister and it was mostly her talking about making cakes and I enjoyed it because I don't talk to my sister often and I love her a ton.

I love my uncle too but after hours and hours of listening it's understandable to finally want to you know, not listen. I cared at the beginning, after the first few hours I stopped caring, but he didn't stop talking.

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WazzupGenius00
05/16/12 7:49:00 PM
#120:


Haven't read anything beyond the first post but wasn't Ayuyu the one who made a topic a little while back about not being able to understand people who have no interest in learning? And now he doesn't want to hear what other people have to say?

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Ayuyu
05/16/12 7:51:00 PM
#121:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #120
not being able to understand people who have no interest in learning?


I don't see the problem here! I still can't understand it and I find it so sad.

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Dark Young Link
05/16/12 7:53:00 PM
#122:


Ayuyu posted...
**** I wanted to spend my night listening to slow music while relaxing and now I'm stuck with my uncle talking about politics and WWII.

I wouldn't care if it wasn't the only things he ever talked about for the last 20 years.


And you haven't told him to shut up yet?

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Ayuyu
05/16/12 7:56:00 PM
#123:


I'm totally incapable of being rude to people IRL, and no I don't feel like there's a way to tell someone to shut up without sounding rude.

It annoys me to no end.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/17/12 4:03:00 AM
#124:


It really is not hard to be nice to people, even people you dislike.

But should you be nice to people you dislike?

Empathy is something people earn. It's not something everyone automatically deserves.
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GenesisSaga
05/17/12 4:53:00 AM
#125:


Ayuyu posted...
I'm totally incapable of being rude to people IRL, and no I don't feel like there's a way to tell someone to shut up without sounding rude.

It annoys me to no end.


(Please) Excuse me, [insert uncle's name here]. I need to work on this essay that's due very soon. I'll talk more with you later.

These things aren't difficult. It's also not difficult to come across as something other than a selfish jerk when posting- for most people that is.

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Vlado
05/17/12 4:56:00 AM
#126:


UltimaterializerX posted...
And yes I'm aware it's literally 100% impossible for Board 8 to ever ignore anything, which is why awful trolls like Vlado and joyrock still get people posting in their topics. Why this is the case, I have no idea.

Ulti, stop being all buddy-buddy to my face and badmouthing me behind my back. It's very inconsistent.

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Ayuyu
05/17/12 6:22:00 AM
#127:


From: GenesisSaga | #125
Ayuyu posted...
I'm totally incapable of being rude to people IRL, and no I don't feel like there's a way to tell someone to shut up without sounding rude.

It annoys me to no end.


(Please) Excuse me, [insert uncle's name here]. I need to work on this essay that's due very soon. I'll talk more with you later.

These things aren't difficult. It's also not difficult to come across as something other than a selfish jerk when posting- for most people that is.


This wouldn't work with my uncle, there's nothing to make him stop talking once he started, except leaving the room completely but then it wouldn't fix anything since he would start talking once I come back.

Anyway, finally left my parent's place and I'm free, kinda sad for them they'll have to continue suffer through this, my mom said she can't wait to start working to finally relax (my parents work needs for them to be away from home 9 days every 2 weeks).

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masterplum
05/17/12 6:49:00 AM
#128:


Put me onboard the "didn't understand ayuyu hate until this topic" train

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My Immortal
05/17/12 7:04:00 AM
#129:


*only read the first 50 posts thus far*

My god...

I used to stick up for you Ayuyu... but now... holy crap...

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MrGreenonion
05/17/12 1:17:00 PM
#130:


From: Mr Lasastryke | #124
But should you be nice to people you dislike?


Yes. It doesn't cost you anything to not be an *******.

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Hrezs
05/17/12 1:37:00 PM
#131:


My friend had the same issue with his aunt (she died recently to cancer, so it was literally the same issue). She would call him so often and just sputter nonsense for an hour+ every day. To the point where he was the only person in his family even answering her calls (and hed only answer like 30% of the time max).

This is a standard reaction.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/17/12 2:24:00 PM
#132:


Yes. It doesn't cost you anything to not be an *******.

This is a stupid outlook. I'm not going out of my way to be an ass, but there's no reason whatsoever to be nice to people who treat you like ****. Again, nobody automatically "deserves" to be treated nicely.

Also, I like how people here are saying you should be nice to others even if you dislike them (because it's "not hard" and "doesn't cost you anything") while they're simultaneously being rude and offensive to Ayuyu. The hypocrisy is amazing.
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KingButz
05/17/12 2:26:00 PM
#133:


oh sorry I forgot Ayuyu was my uncle with terminal cancer

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Mr Lasastryke
05/17/12 2:31:00 PM
#134:


Like I said, they were referring to people in general, not Ayuyu's uncle.
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OmarsComin
05/18/12 4:01:00 AM
#135:


I think you should be nice to normal people, and that you have an extra reason to be nice to family members or dying people.

I don't think you should be nice to people who out themselves as awful people who have no courtesy or empathy. when his uncle does that, I'll agree that listening to him might be too much of a burden.

that's not hypocrisy, it's pretty consistent really. his uncle isn't asking him to buy him things, or take him places, or do things for him, or kill someone for him. he's just talking and hoping he'll listen. Ayuyu hasn't said that his uncle says a bunch of offensive s*** either. as far as we know his uncle's list of sins includes "talking too much and his cancer being a burden on our family."

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Mr Lasastryke
05/18/12 4:08:00 AM
#136:


I can agree with that, except...

I think you should be nice to normal people, and that you have an extra reason to be nice to family members or dying people.

...that I think this is BS. I've seen too much, both in my own family and other people's families, to believe in a "family members automatically deserve your sympathy" philosophy.
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Ayuyu
05/18/12 4:43:00 AM
#137:


From: OmarsComin | #135
or take him places


He did asked me to take him places so he could buy alcohol to satisfy is addiction!

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