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foolm0ron
05/08/12 5:47:00 PM
#51:


From: TheRock1525 | #048
Also, people should be less pissed at the North Carolina government and more pissed at the North Carolina population.


Isn't that what we're doing?

I was, at least

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vcharon
05/08/12 5:48:00 PM
#52:


I'm from the south, I'm well aware of who to dislike.

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JDTAY
05/08/12 5:48:00 PM
#53:


I don't believe in the majority suppressing the minority either, guys.

Which is why the 99% should back off lol
99 to 1 is hardly a fair fight

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GenesisTwilight
05/08/12 5:48:00 PM
#54:


I'm pissed at the government for putting forth something like this in the first place.

I'm also pissed at the population for supporting it.

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red sox 777
05/08/12 5:50:00 PM
#55:


The real comedy is going to be when non-married straight couples get screwed over by this.

That's part of the intent. No illicit relationships outside marriage.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:54:00 PM
#56:


That's part of the intent. No illicit relationships outside marriage.

I'm confused. Illicit usually means illegal. So what is illegal?

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JDTAY
05/08/12 5:56:00 PM
#57:


Co-habitation actually is still on the books as illegal in some states.

Now stop your co-habitationin', sinner!

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red sox 777
05/08/12 5:57:00 PM
#58:


Sorry, I wasn't clear. By illicit, I mean any relationship outside of marriage that involves sex, living together, or any other act that is traditionally the domain of married couples.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:57:00 PM
#59:


So, you can't live together unless you're a married man and woman.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 5:57:00 PM
#60:


From: JDTAY | #057
Co-habitation actually is still on the books as illegal in some states.

Now stop your co-habitationin', sinner!


Can you have a platonic roommate of the opposite sex?

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:58:00 PM
#61:


So, if I'm getting this clear, if you and your buddy lived together, you'd have to prove to the government that you weren't boinking each other.

Am I getting this right?

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red sox 777
05/08/12 5:59:00 PM
#62:


if I'm getting this clear, if you and your buddy lived together, you'd have to prove to the government that you weren't boinking each other.

Am I getting this right?


The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.

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JaKyL25
05/08/12 6:02:00 PM
#63:


What is the penalty if you are convicted?

Cohabitation with MORE men in prison?

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red sox 777
05/08/12 6:03:00 PM
#64:


Wait, there are states with cohabitation statutes that thought of gay couples? I thought cohabitation statutes required a man and a woman.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 6:04:00 PM
#65:


From: red sox 777 | #062
if I'm getting this clear, if you and your buddy lived together, you'd have to prove to the government that you weren't boinking each other.

Am I getting this right?


The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.


This should be the plot of Phoenix Wright 4. Armstrong could come back!

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red sox 777
05/08/12 6:09:00 PM
#66:


Oh man, just imagine a national ban on extramarital sex. With the penalty being revocation of voting rights. We could get rid of the Democratic Party's power in one fell swoop!

Or, we could try the old rule. If a man and a woman have sex outside of marriage, and they are caught, the man must offer to marry the woman. If she accepts they will be wed, and if not, he will be treated as a rapist.

Santorum 2016

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LordoftheMorons
05/08/12 6:09:00 PM
#67:


disgusting

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RySenkari
05/08/12 6:13:00 PM
#68:


The President needs to grow a pair and issue an executive order making gay marriage legal everywhere. If some state doesn't like it, do what Eisenhower did and send in the National Guard. It's time we stop oppressing minorities in this country once and for all.

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masterplum
05/08/12 6:14:00 PM
#69:


From: RySenkari | #068
The President needs to grow a pair and issue an executive order making gay marriage legal everywhere. If some state doesn't like it, do what Eisenhower did and send in the National Guard. It's time we stop oppressing minorities in this country once and for all.


Not sure if serious

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JaKyL25
05/08/12 6:14:00 PM
#70:


In an election year? Fat chance!

Next year maybe. <_<

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red sox 777
05/08/12 6:15:00 PM
#71:


The President needs to grow a pair and issue an executive order making gay marriage legal everywhere. If some state doesn't like it, do what Eisenhower did and send in the National Guard. It's time we stop oppressing minorities in this country once and for all.

That's highly unconstitutional. Unlike Eisenhower, Obama does not have either judicial or legislative authority to do that.

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vcharon
05/08/12 6:15:00 PM
#72:


Remember that time some states wanted to keep things their way and left the Union? Yeah, sure glad they were allowed to get their way!

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masterplum
05/08/12 6:16:00 PM
#73:


From: vcharon | #072
Remember that time some states wanted to keep things their way and left the Union? Yeah, sure glad they were allowed to get their way!


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That's a terrible example. North Carolina didn't rebel against Federal law. There was nothing federally illegal about what they did.

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red sox 777
05/08/12 6:17:00 PM
#74:


Under the proposal, the president would be the one doing something illegal.

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JDTAY
05/08/12 6:17:00 PM
#75:


masterplum posted...
From: RySenkari | #068
The President needs to grow a pair and issue an executive order making gay marriage legal everywhere. If some state doesn't like it, do what Eisenhower did and send in the National Guard. It's time we stop oppressing minorities in this country once and for all.

Not sure if serious


Mods are always serious. >_>

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VincentLauw
05/08/12 6:17:00 PM
#76:


are there any rational people still in here

no?

cool

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Jeff Zero
05/08/12 6:18:00 PM
#77:


It's perfectly constitutional and I respect its right to exist. But needless to say I'm quite upset that it will pass.

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masterplum
05/08/12 6:18:00 PM
#78:


From: JDTAY | #075
Mods are always serious. >_>


I could have explained clearly why that would be a terrible idea no matter what ideological view you take but I didn't know if I should even bother.

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masterplum
05/08/12 6:18:00 PM
#79:


From: Jeff Zero | #077
It's perfectly constitutional and I respect its right to exist. But needless to say I'm quite upset that it will pass.


^5

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RySenkari
05/08/12 6:20:00 PM
#80:


I'm sick of the oppression of gays in this country. If it takes something dramatic like the president forcing people to come into the 21st century via an executive order, then so be it.

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GuessMyUserName
05/08/12 6:21:00 PM
#81:


From: JDTAY | Posted: 5/8/2012 9:17:31 PM | #075
Mods are always serious. >_>


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Pacmantis
05/08/12 6:21:00 PM
#82:


15_and_counting posted...
Ainoxi posted...
From: masterplum | #019
I don't agree with it, but I do agree that North Carolina has the right to decide what North Carolina feels about it.
Not when how they "feel about it" is taking away the rights of people.

Shut your ****ing mouth. You want to live in a state that allows that kinda thing, go right ahead. But don't you dare tell other stares what they should or should not do because of your "morals". I HATE gay marriage, but each state has the right to decide their own on it. The people of Maine and other ultra liberal states wanted to legalize it, and they should have been able too. No federal should have any right to tell any state what it can or cant do with it's own people.



You're the worst

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DSAutoResponder
05/08/12 6:23:00 PM
#83:


screw this garbage state forever
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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 6:25:00 PM
#84:


Conservatives should allow gays to marry. Think of it this way, maybe the "gay gene" is dominant, and it's only still around because gay dudes get into straight marriages in order to have some kind of companionship in their lives. Sure they're not banging the dude they want to bang, but they have kids, who they pass the gay genes onto. If we just allow them to get married, they would stop reproducing and just adopt. Within a few generations, gayness would be purged from the genepool anyway. Conservatives have to support gays now to get rid of them for their grandchildren. It's the noble thing to do!

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red sox 777
05/08/12 6:29:00 PM
#85:


What if conservatives don't mind gay people at all and just want to save them from themselves so they can have happy, productive, marriages that produce children?

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 6:33:00 PM
#86:


Or maybe they don't want to put gays through the hell that is marriage.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 6:33:00 PM
#87:


From: red sox 777 | #085
What if conservatives don't mind gay people at all and just want to save them from themselves so they can have happy, productive, marriages that produce children?


See, now you're making the mistake that conservative politicians want anyone to be happy.

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SmartMuffin
05/08/12 6:34:00 PM
#88:


why are you involving me in this?

I don't care about this crap.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 6:36:00 PM
#89:


MarvelousGerbil posted...
From: red sox 777 | #085
What if conservatives don't mind gay people at all and just want to save them from themselves so they can have happy, productive, marriages that produce children?
See, now you're making the mistake that conservative politicians want anyone to be happy.


That's not true.

They want all the billionaires happy!

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 6:38:00 PM
#90:


And how many gay billionaires do you know?

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Naomi_Diamond
05/08/12 6:40:00 PM
#91:


3.5

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 6:46:00 PM
#92:


MarvelousGerbil posted...
And how many gay billionaires do you know?

All of them.

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Pacmantis
05/08/12 6:48:00 PM
#93:


Rock is a high-end gay prostitute

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Sceptilesolar
05/08/12 6:49:00 PM
#94:


From: red sox 777 | #085
What if conservatives don't mind gay people at all and just want to save them from themselves so they can have happy, productive, marriages that produce children?


Somehow it would be more comforting to think that they were only maliciously evil.

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foolm0ron
05/08/12 6:50:00 PM
#95:


From: MarvelousGerbil | #090
And how many gay billionaires do you know?


Well the trick is that if you're rich and powerful enough, you can be straight no matter how many men you sleep with!

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 6:51:00 PM
#96:


Pacmantis posted...
Rock is a high-end gay prostitute

It's true, I like it in the bum.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 6:53:00 PM
#97:


From: TheRock1525 | #096
It's true, I like it in the bum.


But, just the tip, right?

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GenesisTwilight
05/08/12 6:54:00 PM
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Pacmantis
05/08/12 6:55:00 PM
#99:


foolm0ron posted...
From: MarvelousGerbil | #090
And how many gay billionaires do you know?
Well the trick is that if you're rich and powerful enough, you can be straight no matter how many men you sleep with!


pay away the gay

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Suprak the Stud
05/08/12 6:55:00 PM
#100:


Tu quoque

I'm not taking a side here, just pointing out the logical fallacy.


I also refuse to take a side in an internetz argument, but this isn't an example of tu quoque.

If person A went "Gay marriage is ruining marriage" and person B went "but you were just divorced!", then that counts. If person A goes "gay marriage is ruining the sanctity of marriage" and person B goes "marriage has no inherent sanctity, and here are some examples of that" that is not an example of tu quoque.

A subtle distinction, but that is how I learned it.

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