Board 8 > Just finished A Storm of Swords.... amazing (SPOILERS)

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Menji76 04/24/12 11:48:00 PM #1:	Definitely the best book so far, might start Feast tonight. But damn, they killed everyone: Robb, Cat, Ygritte, Joffrey, Tywin and Lysa. And maybe Shae, did Tyrion tighten that chain around her neck so she couldn't breathe? It was just a sentence. And then the Hound might also be dead, probably. Anyone I missed? I'm not sure how I feel about Joffrey's death, I was hoping Arya would do it or it would be in some battle, did the boy ever leave the castle? The Wall stuff was great, can't believe Stannis came up and there was FINALLY some meetings between characters. Just hearing Melisandre say Jon Snow brought a smile to my face. I was hoping Arya and the Hound would make it to the Eyrie. But it looks like she might be able to meet up with Daenarys. Definitely a lot of promise with her story and this secret society that knows that phrase. Also a little disappointed Tywin went out like that, was hoping he'd go down bigger. Lysa probably had the greatest death in the series. I was freaking out thinking Sansa might be next but Littlefinger saying he only loved Cat, the push and then telling Sansa to let the guards in and tell them that the singer did the deed. Brilliant. Really interested to see more of the Others vs Melisandre and the Maestor telling Sam that the sword might be a fake because it wasn't burning the sheath. And Jon the new Lord Commander, Stannis won't like that! I was disappointed Theon's chapters stopped so early, I really want to know what happened with him, how his dad died and what Asha is doing. Also I hope Osha and Rickon get some story as well. I've been waiting so long for Barriston to make his appearance again, that was great too. It looks like Dany might be settling down or at least until the Dragons grow. Also, is there a complete map of the world? I can't seem to figure out where she is in relation to everything else. OH and WTF at ZOMBIE CATELYN? Did they bring her back like that lightning lord(?) the Hound killed? Lastly, ** the Freys. Can't believe they got Grey Wind as well. <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074520] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Definitely the best book so far, might start Feast tonight. But damn, they killed everyone: Robb, Cat, Ygritte, Joffrey, Tywin and Lysa. And maybe Shae, did Tyrion tighten that chain around her neck so she couldn't breathe? It was just a sentence. And then the Hound might also be dead, probably. Anyone I missed?I'm not sure how I feel about Joffrey's death, I was hoping Arya would do it or it would be in some battle, did the boy ever leave the castle? The Wall stuff was great, can't believe Stannis came up and there was FINALLY some meetings between characters. Just hearing Melisandre say Jon Snow brought a smile to my face. I was hoping Arya and the Hound would make it to the Eyrie. But it looks like she might be able to meet up with Daenarys. Definitely a lot of promise with her story and this secret society that knows that phrase. Also a little disappointed Tywin went out like that, was hoping he'd go down bigger. Lysa probably had the greatest death in the series. I was freaking out thinking Sansa might be next but Littlefinger saying he only loved Cat, the push and then telling Sansa to let the guards in and tell them that the singer did the deed. Brilliant. Really interested to see more of the Others vs Melisandre and the Maestor telling Sam that the sword might be a fake because it wasn't burning the sheath. And Jon the new Lord Commander, Stannis won't like that! I was disappointed Theon's chapters stopped so early, I really want to know what happened with him, how his dad died and what Asha is doing. Also I hope Osha and Rickon get some story as well.I've been waiting so long for Barriston to make his appearance again, that was great too. It looks like Dany might be settling down or at least until the Dragons grow. Also, is there a complete map of the world? I can't seem to figure out where she is in relation to everything else.OH and WTF at ZOMBIE CATELYN? Did they bring her back like that lightning lord(?) the Hound killed? Lastly, ** the Freys. Can't believe they got Grey Wind as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captaincanadian 04/24/12 11:54:00 PM #2:	SoS so good. If you're interested in the Greyjoy plots you'll probably like Feast more than some people do. -- . <cite>captaincanadian posted [p:1074521] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> SoS so good. If you're interested in the Greyjoy plots you'll probably like Feast more than some people do. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrinceKaro 04/25/12 12:06:00 AM #3:	*Menji76 posted...* Also, is there a complete map of the world? I can't seem to figure out where she is in relation to everything else. The most detailed map of the world can be found on HBO's website for the TV series: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/ The only complete full-world map is this one, however it lacks detail and is a bit off scale: -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. <cite>PrinceKaro posted [p:1074522] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Menji76 posted...Also, is there a complete map of the world? I can't seem to figure out where she is in relation to everything else.The most detailed map of the world can be found on HBO's website for the TV series: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/The only complete full-world map is this one, however it lacks detail and is a bit off scale: -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 12:08:00 AM #4:	holy crap they're a lot farther away than I thought. Dany's in Asshai at the end, correct? How close is that corner to the opposite corner, the wall I guess. -- Menji+ http://backloggery.com/menji/sig.gif http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/24/nb-menji.png <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074523] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> holy crap they're a lot farther away than I thought. Dany's in Asshai at the end, correct?How close is that corner to the opposite corner, the wall I guess. -- Menji+ http://backloggery.com/menji/sig.gifhttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/24/nb-menji.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 12:10:00 AM #5:	SoS is the best book I've ever read. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074524] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> SoS is the best book I've ever read. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrinceKaro 04/25/12 12:11:00 AM #6:	*Menji76 posted...* holy crap they're a lot farther away than I thought. Dany's in Asshai at the end, correct? How close is that corner to the opposite corner, the wall I guess. Asshai is where the Red Priests are from. Dany never went there. >_> -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. <cite>PrinceKaro posted [p:1074525] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Menji76 posted...holy crap they're a lot farther away than I thought. Dany's in Asshai at the end, correct?How close is that corner to the opposite corner, the wall I guess.Asshai is where the Red Priests are from. Dany never went there. >_> -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 12:11:00 AM #7:	From: Menji76 \| #004 holy crap they're a lot farther away than I thought. Dany's in Asshai at the end, correct? I think Dany's in Mereen at the end of SoS. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074526] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: Menji76 \| #004holy crap they're a lot farther away than I thought. Dany's in Asshai at the end, correct?I think Dany's in Mereen at the end of SoS. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 12:12:00 AM #8:	Oops, I meant Astapor. But Mereen? Got it. -- Menji+ http://backloggery.com/menji/sig.gif http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/24/nb-menji.png <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074527] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Oops, I meant Astapor. But Mereen? Got it. -- Menji+ http://backloggery.com/menji/sig.gifhttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/24/nb-menji.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 12:15:00 AM #9:	From: Menji76 \| #001 Really interested to see more of the Others vs Melisandre and the Maestor telling Sam that the sword might be a fake because it wasn't burning the sheath. And Jon the new Lord Commander, Stannis won't like that! Yeah, Stannis's "Lightbringer" is obviously fake - it was cool how easily Maester Aemon saw through it. But as the readers we already know who Azor Ahai reborn (probably) is - we saw the replay of his story happen to one of the characters in book 1. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074528] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: Menji76 \| #001Really interested to see more of the Others vs Melisandre and the Maestor telling Sam that the sword might be a fake because it wasn't burning the sheath. And Jon the new Lord Commander, Stannis won't like that!Yeah, Stannis's "Lightbringer" is obviously fake - it was cool how easily Maester Aemon saw through it. But as the readers we already know who Azor Ahai reborn (probably) is - we saw the replay of his story happen to one of the characters in book 1. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 12:17:00 AM #10:	uhhhh, I vaguely remember something, give me a hint. -- House Eltharion http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/MenjiShieldpngan.png <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074529] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> uhhhh, I vaguely remember something, give me a hint. -- House Eltharionhttp://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/MenjiShieldpngan.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 12:31:00 AM #11:	Azor Ahai, dude who tried three times to forge a magic sword, the first two times it broke, finally he quenched the sword by stabbing his wife with it and killing her. "It is written in prophecy as well. When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone." Seems pretty obvious it's supposed to Daenerys, although Martin could be tricking us of course. She was born on Dragonstone, she hatched dragons out of stone, trying three times and sacrificing her husband on the final try to do it. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074530] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Azor Ahai, dude who tried three times to forge a magic sword, the first two times it broke, finally he quenched the sword by stabbing his wife with it and killing her."It is written in prophecy as well. When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone."Seems pretty obvious it's supposed to Daenerys, although Martin could be tricking us of course. She was born on Dragonstone, she hatched dragons out of stone, trying three times and sacrificing her husband on the final try to do it. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Furious Fura 04/25/12 12:33:00 AM #12:	*PrinceKaro posted...* Menji76 posted... Also, is there a complete map of the world? I can't seem to figure out where she is in relation to everything else. The most detailed map of the world can be found on HBO's website for the TV series: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/ The only complete full-world map is this one, however it lacks detail and is a bit off scale: ibben is sooooo much further away than i thought everything else looks like i imagined pretty much but lol ibben -- */ssbsb/* <cite>Furious Fura posted [p:1074531] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> PrinceKaro posted...Menji76 posted...Also, is there a complete map of the world? I can't seem to figure out where she is in relation to everything else.The most detailed map of the world can be found on HBO's website for the TV series: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/The only complete full-world map is this one, however it lacks detail and is a bit off scale:ibben is sooooo much further away than i thoughteverything else looks like i imagined pretty much but lol ibben -- /ssbsb/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 12:37:00 AM #13:	Man, I don't even remember Ibben being mentioned. lol ibben indeed. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074532] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Man, I don't even remember Ibben being mentioned. lol ibben indeed. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Furious Fura 04/25/12 12:39:00 AM #14:	and obviously i mean the HBO map when i say that a complete official map guide to the asoiaf world is coming later this year though http://www.randomhouse.com/book/221316/the-lands-of-ice-and-fire-a-game-of-thrones-by-george-rr-martin gonna be awesome i love maps -- */ssbsb/* <cite>Furious Fura posted [p:1074533] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> and obviously i mean the HBO map when i say thata complete official map guide to the asoiaf world is coming later this year thoughhttp://www.randomhouse.com/book/221316/the-lands-of-ice-and-fire-a-game-of-thrones-by-george-rr-martingonna be awesomei love maps -- /ssbsb/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 12:40:00 AM #15:	I don't remember Ibben, was that mentioned in this book? Also, answer to this plz :) From: Menji76 \| #001 And maybe Shae, did Tyrion tighten that chain around her neck so she couldn't breathe? -- Menji~ and you could write a Bad Romance http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/508/badk.gif <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074534] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> I don't remember Ibben, was that mentioned in this book?Also, answer to this plz :)From: Menji76 \| #001And maybe Shae, did Tyrion tighten that chain around her neck so she couldn't breathe? -- Menji~ and you could write a Bad Romancehttp://img686.imageshack.us/img686/508/badk.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Harmonica_ 04/25/12 12:41:00 AM #16:	congrats for finishing the best book in the series, it's all downhill from here -- SuperNiceDog did a SuperNiceJob <cite>_Harmonica_ posted [p:1074535] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> congrats for finishing the best book in the series, it's all downhill from here -- SuperNiceDog did a SuperNiceJob </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fortybelowsummer 04/25/12 12:47:00 AM #17:	did Tyrion tighten that chain around her neck so she couldn't breathe? He did. She dead. -- Well played, SuperNiceDog. Well played. <cite>fortybelowsummer posted [p:1074536] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> did Tyrion tighten that chain around her neck so she couldn't breathe?He did. She dead. -- Well played, SuperNiceDog. Well played. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solfadore 04/25/12 12:55:00 AM #18:	Kaxon, I don't agree about Dany being Azor Ahai, btw, I think there's another character that fits the bill much more closely, though I won't say whom because of spoilers. I will only give you one hint: it's not Hodor. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore <cite>Solfadore posted [p:1074537] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Kaxon, I don't agree about Dany being Azor Ahai, btw, I think there's another character that fits the bill much more closely, though I won't say whom because of spoilers. I will only give you one hint: it's not Hodor. -- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 1:38:00 PM #19:	too many new povs in Feast! -- Menji~ by Ctrl-Alt-Del http://img.imgcake.com/menjipngre.png <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074538] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> too many new povs in Feast! -- Menji~ by Ctrl-Alt-Delhttp://img.imgcake.com/menjipngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
linkhatesganon 04/25/12 2:59:00 PM #20:	Actually, I thought Tywin death was the best one. And don't forget about Oberyn! I have a feeling everyone will like him in the TV show. However, I'm sorry to say this, but prepare to be disappointed. Feast and Dance just can't compare with SoS. Yes, probably because of the expectations Storm raises, but... IIRC, 75% or so of chapters in Feast were either of Jaime, Brienne or Cersei (definitely the best ones). -- Dr Football > Dr Soccer <cite>linkhatesganon posted [p:1074539] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Actually, I thought Tywin death was the best one. And don't forget about Oberyn! I have a feeling everyone will like him in the TV show.However, I'm sorry to say this, but prepare to be disappointed. Feast and Dance just can't compare with SoS. Yes, probably because of the expectations Storm raises, but... IIRC, 75% or so of chapters in Feast were either of Jaime, Brienne or Cersei (definitely the best ones). -- Dr Football > Dr Soccer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 3:18:00 PM #21:	Feast and Dance are still pretty good though. BTW you NEED to read the short stories before you start Dance. The Hedge Knight, The Sworn Sword, and The Mystery Knight. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074540] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Feast and Dance are still pretty good though.BTW you NEED to read the short stories before you start Dance. The Hedge Knight, The Sworn Sword, and The Mystery Knight. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saveus_Maria 04/25/12 3:25:00 PM #22:	one thing you may want to try doing is reading Feast and Dance at the same time. there's a chapter guide out there that tells you which order all of the stuff happens in chronologically. there's nothing wrong with reading Feast and then Dance, but just know that the events of the books happen out of order and overlap to a pretty large extent (especially through the first half of Dance). I didn't get the chance to do this myself since I got into the series long ago and have been reading them as they came out, but it might be an interesting experience to try and read them in chronological order. -- http://img.imgcake.com/theusersaveusmariajpgeg.jpg <cite>saveus_Maria posted [p:1074541] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> one thing you may want to try doing is reading Feast and Dance at the same time. there's a chapter guide out there that tells you which order all of the stuff happens in chronologically.there's nothing wrong with reading Feast and then Dance, but just know that the events of the books happen out of order and overlap to a pretty large extent (especially through the first half of Dance). I didn't get the chance to do this myself since I got into the series long ago and have been reading them as they came out, but it might be an interesting experience to try and read them in chronological order. -- http://img.imgcake.com/theusersaveusmariajpgeg.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Theon_Greyjoy 04/25/12 3:28:00 PM #23:	Actually, I thought Tywin death was the best one. This. Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, s* gold. -- EndOfDiscOne http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/350/normallost6x010065.jpg <cite>Theon_Greyjoy posted [p:1074542] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Actually, I thought Tywin death was the best one.This. Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, s* gold. -- EndOfDiscOnehttp://img43.imageshack.us/img43/350/normallost6x010065.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/25/12 3:43:00 PM #24:	If Oberyn Martell isn't played by Oded Fehr (the guy from The Mummy who led the ancient society) I will be very unhappy. From: PrinceKaro \| #003 The only complete full-world map is this one, however it lacks detail and is a bit off scale: That's not actually a real map I believe. It was made when we had a lot less information. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/51alecpngpa.png -Nio <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074543] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> If Oberyn Martell isn't played by Oded Fehr (the guy from The Mummy who led the ancient society) I will be very unhappy.From: PrinceKaro \| #003The only complete full-world map is this one, however it lacks detail and is a bit off scale:That's not actually a real map I believe. It was made when we had a lot less information. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/51alecpngpa.png -Nio </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/25/12 3:49:00 PM #25:	As to the chronological reading, they do have a chronological chapter guide mostly worked out, but I wouldn't suggest doing that the first time, as it apparently does not read as well. It takes away what suspense there is, it makes for an uneven distribution of chapters... it's a fun way to get more out of it as a veteran, but as a rookie it's a bit much. And as much as I wanted to see certain people kill Joffrey, ultimately his death was very satisfying and fitting: helpless and terrified, never looking more like the child he is, dying in his family's moment of triumph. Tywin's is likewise suitable. I have a lot more stuff that I'd go into, but I don't want to be tempted to be drawn into spoilers, so I won't talk at all about overall themes, I'll just comment on stuff that you read. From: Kaxon \| #021 BTW you NEED to read the short stories before you start Dance. The Hedge Knight, The Sworn Sword, and The Mystery Knight. This is very true. -- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2012 <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074544] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> As to the chronological reading, they do have a chronological chapter guide mostly worked out, but I wouldn't suggest doing that the first time, as it apparently does not read as well. It takes away what suspense there is, it makes for an uneven distribution of chapters... it's a fun way to get more out of it as a veteran, but as a rookie it's a bit much. And as much as I wanted to see certain people kill Joffrey, ultimately his death was very satisfying and fitting: helpless and terrified, never looking more like the child he is, dying in his family's moment of triumph. Tywin's is likewise suitable. I have a lot more stuff that I'd go into, but I don't want to be tempted to be drawn into spoilers, so I won't talk at all about overall themes, I'll just comment on stuff that you read.From: Kaxon \| #021BTW you NEED to read the short stories before you start Dance. The Hedge Knight, The Sworn Sword, and The Mystery Knight.This is very true. -- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2012 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 04/25/12 4:00:00 PM #26:	this topic reminds me that I still have to start reading A Feast For Crows. Never got past page 60 or something. I need to get on that before I forget basically everything (it's been almost a year since I finished A Storm Of Swords) -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler1gifuh.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:1074545] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> this topic reminds me that I still have to start reading A Feast For Crows. Never got past page 60 or something. I need to get on that before I forget basically everything (it's been almost a year since I finished A Storm Of Swords) -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler1gifuh.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 8:55:00 PM #27:	Will definitely read those short stories before Dance. -- Menji~ and you could write a Bad Romance http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/508/badk.gif <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074546] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Will definitely read those short stories before Dance. -- Menji~ and you could write a Bad Romancehttp://img686.imageshack.us/img686/508/badk.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ness26 04/25/12 9:11:00 PM #28:	From: Menji76 \| #019 too many new povs in Feast! Same with Dance. I'm a bit confused as to why there are so many one-shot PoV characters. Doesn't really seem necessary to spend all that time introducing them if you never really use them. Apparently there are condensed versions of Feast and Dance that make the pace of the books more tolerable. And I never read the short stories... didn't realize they were at all relevant. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. <cite>Ness26 posted [p:1074547] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: Menji76 \| #019too many new povs in Feast!Same with Dance. I'm a bit confused as to why there are so many one-shot PoV characters. Doesn't really seem necessary to spend all that time introducing them if you never really use them. Apparently there are condensed versions of Feast and Dance that make the pace of the books more tolerable.And I never read the short stories... didn't realize they were at all relevant. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 10:11:00 PM #29:	There are some fun references to the stories in the first four books but they're not that important. But knowing the backstory makes part of the fifth book a lot better. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074548] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> There are some fun references to the stories in the first four books but they're not that important. But knowing the backstory makes part of the fifth book a lot better. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/25/12 10:15:00 PM #30:	Yeah, short stories are fun on their own. They're not ESSENTIAL, as in stuff will still make sense without them, but you'll get a lot more out of certain parts if you read them. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/51alecpngpa.png -Nio <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074549] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, short stories are fun on their own. They're not ESSENTIAL, as in stuff will still make sense without them, but you'll get a lot more out of certain parts if you read them. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/51alecpngpa.png -Nio </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/25/12 10:19:00 PM #31:	Is there any news on when the 6th book might be released? I assume there's a chapter at the end of Dance like in the other books. Do those ever change? Seems like if he's taking 5 years there might be things he'd want to. I never read them since I had the books already. -- Menji - www.last.fm/user/menjii You got to put me on. Come on! Come on! <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074550] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Is there any news on when the 6th book might be released? I assume there's a chapter at the end of Dance like in the other books. Do those ever change? Seems like if he's taking 5 years there might be things he'd want to. I never read them since I had the books already. -- Menji - www.last.fm/user/menjiiYou got to put me on. Come on! Come on! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/25/12 10:37:00 PM #32:	From: Menji76 \| #031 Is there any news on when the 6th book might be released? I assume there's a chapter at the end of Dance like in the other books. Do those ever change? Seems like if he's taking 5 years there might be things he'd want to. I never read them since I had the books already. Unclear. At the end of Feast he had a note saying "Check bookstores next fall!" and then it took 5 years. Basically, he was originally going to do a time skip after Storm, with some flashbacks or something. Then he realized he couldn't get it to work. Then the book got too huge so he split it based on characters. He originally thought he'd be able to get Dance out quick, but he ended up trashing everything and rewriting it. He was having a lot of trouble with a certain part, he'd kinda written himself into a corner, and that slowed him down a lot. So... on the bright side, he has gotten through the "middle books" and he is now getting down to the stuff he's wanted to do and which he has had figured out from the beginning. Feast/Dance were books he never meant to write. "Winds of Winter" and "Dream of Spring" are what he started the entire series to get to and which he has been building towards all along. So... he should be more motivated and have this planned out better. On the not-so-bright side, he thought he was in good shape when Feast got published and we saw how that turned out. Also, some people think HBO might be on his ass to finish, but I doubt HBO execs expect this show goes 7-8 seasons. I dunno how long it'll go after season 4 (second half of Storm). -- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tiroalecjpgap.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpgyt.jpg <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074551] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: Menji76 \| #031Is there any news on when the 6th book might be released? I assume there's a chapter at the end of Dance like in the other books. Do those ever change? Seems like if he's taking 5 years there might be things he'd want to. I never read them since I had the books already.Unclear. At the end of Feast he had a note saying "Check bookstores next fall!" and then it took 5 years. Basically, he was originally going to do a time skip after Storm, with some flashbacks or something. Then he realized he couldn't get it to work. Then the book got too huge so he split it based on characters. He originally thought he'd be able to get Dance out quick, but he ended up trashing everything and rewriting it. He was having a lot of trouble with a certain part, he'd kinda written himself into a corner, and that slowed him down a lot. So... on the bright side, he has gotten through the "middle books" and he is now getting down to the stuff he's wanted to do and which he has had figured out from the beginning. Feast/Dance were books he never meant to write. "Winds of Winter" and "Dream of Spring" are what he started the entire series to get to and which he has been building towards all along. So... he should be more motivated and have this planned out better. On the not-so-bright side, he thought he was in good shape when Feast got published and we saw how that turned out. Also, some people think HBO might be on his ass to finish, but I doubt HBO execs expect this show goes 7-8 seasons. I dunno how long it'll go after season 4 (second half of Storm). -- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tiroalecjpgap.jpghttp://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpgyt.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 10:38:00 PM #33:	No chapter at the end of the hardcovers. There might be one at the end of the paperback when it comes out. I think he's read some samples at appearances he's had. But basically, no one knows how long it'll take, including GRRM. The guy takes on way too many non-soiaf projects and he's slow in general, so I assume it'll be another 5 years if we get it at all. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074552] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> No chapter at the end of the hardcovers. There might be one at the end of the paperback when it comes out. I think he's read some samples at appearances he's had. But basically, no one knows how long it'll take, including GRRM. The guy takes on way too many non-soiaf projects and he's slow in general, so I assume it'll be another 5 years if we get it at all. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/25/12 10:40:00 PM #34:	From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #032 So... on the bright side, he has gotten through the "middle books" and he is now getting down to the stuff he's wanted to do and which he has had figured out from the beginning. Feast/Dance were books he never meant to write. "Winds of Winter" and "Dream of Spring" are what he started the entire series to get to and which he has been building towards all along. So... he should be more motivated and have this planned out better. Hmm, where'd you hear that part? I hope that makes it go more quickly but I'm not going to hold my breath. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074553] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #032So... on the bright side, he has gotten through the "middle books" and he is now getting down to the stuff he's wanted to do and which he has had figured out from the beginning. Feast/Dance were books he never meant to write. "Winds of Winter" and "Dream of Spring" are what he started the entire series to get to and which he has been building towards all along. So... he should be more motivated and have this planned out better.Hmm, where'd you hear that part? I hope that makes it go more quickly but I'm not going to hold my breath. -- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/25/12 11:39:00 PM #35:	From: Kaxon \| #034 Hmm, where'd you hear that part? I hope that makes it go more quickly but I'm not going to hold my breath. I mean, it's mostly just drawing stuff from what he's said over the last 5 years. How he had it all figured out for a 3 book series or whatever and it grew in the telling, his using-then-abandoning of the timejump, all of his trouble with needing to get people where they needed to be... almost all the reasons he gave for why Dance was taking so long should NOT apply to Winds. But I don't trust him at this point, and I'm expecting 5 years and/or his death. -- http://i41.tinypic.com/xq0ro.png -XIIIiscool's Advent Calendar <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074554] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: Kaxon \| #034Hmm, where'd you hear that part? I hope that makes it go more quickly but I'm not going to hold my breath.I mean, it's mostly just drawing stuff from what he's said over the last 5 years. How he had it all figured out for a 3 book series or whatever and it grew in the telling, his using-then-abandoning of the timejump, all of his trouble with needing to get people where they needed to be... almost all the reasons he gave for why Dance was taking so long should NOT apply to Winds. But I don't trust him at this point, and I'm expecting 5 years and/or his death. -- http://i41.tinypic.com/xq0ro.png -XIIIiscool's Advent Calendar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/26/12 12:04:00 PM #36:	From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #035 I mean, it's mostly just drawing stuff from what he's said over the last 5 years. How he had it all figured out for a 3 book series or whatever and it grew in the telling, his using-then-abandoning of the timejump, all of his trouble with needing to get people where they needed to be... almost all the reasons he gave for why Dance was taking so long should NOT apply to Winds. I've heard him say most of those things, just not the part about having the last two books all figured out, or that it was the stuff he wanted to do from the beginning. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074555] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #035I mean, it's mostly just drawing stuff from what he's said over the last 5 years. How he had it all figured out for a 3 book series or whatever and it grew in the telling, his using-then-abandoning of the timejump, all of his trouble with needing to get people where they needed to be... almost all the reasons he gave for why Dance was taking so long should NOT apply to Winds.I've heard him say most of those things, just not the part about having the last two books all figured out, or that it was the stuff he wanted to do from the beginning. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 04/26/12 12:15:00 PM #37:	He already has at least five chapters done of multiple characters in Dance... so... fingers crossed -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:1074556] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> He already has at least five chapters done of multiple characters in Dance... so...fingers crossed -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gifhttp://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eeeevil Overlord 04/26/12 12:24:00 PM #38:	"I've heard him say most of those things, just not the part about having the last two books all figured out, or that it was the stuff he wanted to do from the beginning." Well there's stuff foreshadowed in book 1 that's not realised yet, and multiple plotlines started in book 1 that are nowhere near concluded yet, so you've got to kind of assume he has a plan for the last couple of books. I'm going in with mindless "Winds will be out Summer 2013" optimism. I'm sure I'll regret that in said Summer, but still! -- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism <cite>Eeeevil Overlord posted [p:1074557] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> "I've heard him say most of those things, just not the part about having the last two books all figured out, or that it was the stuff he wanted to do from the beginning."Well there's stuff foreshadowed in book 1 that's not realised yet, and multiple plotlines started in book 1 that are nowhere near concluded yet, so you've got to kind of assume he has a plan for the last couple of books.I'm going in with mindless "Winds will be out Summer 2013" optimism. I'm sure I'll regret that in said Summer, but still! -- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User& The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 04/26/12 12:24:00 PM #39:	From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #032 Also, some people think HBO might be on his ass to finish, but I doubt HBO execs expect this show goes 7-8 seasons. I dunno how long it'll go after season 4 (second half of Storm). Given their ratings, HBO will milk this series for all it's worth. They're actually beating some network television shows now, not even counting the CW. That's insane for a premium channel. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:1074558] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #032Also, some people think HBO might be on his ass to finish, but I doubt HBO execs expect this show goes 7-8 seasons. I dunno how long it'll go after season 4 (second half of Storm).Given their ratings, HBO will milk this series for all it's worth. They're actually beating some network television shows now, not even counting the CW. That's insane for a premium channel. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/26/12 1:24:00 PM #40:	From: kevwaffles \| #039 Given their ratings, HBO will milk this series for all it's worth. They're actually beating some network television shows now, not even counting the CW. That's insane for a premium channel. Yes. Right now. I expect them to lose viewers after the Red Wedding. And more when Feast/Dance don't match up to Storm. -- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2012 <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074559] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: kevwaffles \| #039Given their ratings, HBO will milk this series for all it's worth. They're actually beating some network television shows now, not even counting the CW. That's insane for a premium channel.Yes. Right now. I expect them to lose viewers after the Red Wedding. And more when Feast/Dance don't match up to Storm. -- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2012 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ness26 04/26/12 1:27:00 PM #41:	Pretty sure they're going to change things significantly by Feast/Dance. Those two books do not translate well to TV. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. <cite>Ness26 posted [p:1074560] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Pretty sure they're going to change things significantly by Feast/Dance. Those two books do not translate well to TV. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/26/12 1:30:00 PM #42:	From: Eeeevil Overlord \| #038 I'm going in with mindless "Winds will be out Summer 2013" optimism. I'm sure I'll regret that in said Summer, but still! Summer 2013? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Yeah, that ain't happening. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074561] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: Eeeevil Overlord \| #038I'm going in with mindless "Winds will be out Summer 2013" optimism. I'm sure I'll regret that in said Summer, but still!Summer 2013? HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaYeah, that ain't happening. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaxon 04/26/12 1:33:00 PM #43:	On the bright side, the next Dunk and Egg story should be out before that, so that's something. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." <cite>Kaxon posted [p:1074562] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> On the bright side, the next Dunk and Egg story should be out before that, so that's something. -- "Congratulations Thomas and Sylvia! But their happiness does not continue long..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 04/26/12 1:40:00 PM #44:	I fully expect this show to make it to the end. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:1074563] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> I fully expect this show to make it to the end. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 04/26/12 1:44:00 PM #45:	From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #040 Yes. Right now. I expect them to lose viewers after the Red Wedding. And more when Feast/Dance don't match up to Storm. They could lose half of their viewers and still be their most successful show right now, I'm pretty sure. It's hard to find a collection of HBO show ratings all in one place, but Veep's series premiere was only 1.4 million, for comparison. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:1074564] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #040Yes. Right now. I expect them to lose viewers after the Red Wedding. And more when Feast/Dance don't match up to Storm.They could lose half of their viewers and still be their most successful show right now, I'm pretty sure. It's hard to find a collection of HBO show ratings all in one place, but Veep's series premiere was only 1.4 million, for comparison. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/26/12 2:27:00 PM #46:	From: kevwaffles \| #045 They could lose half of their viewers and still be their most successful show right now, I'm pretty sure. It's hard to find a collection of HBO show ratings all in one place, but Veep's series premiere was only 1.4 million, for comparison. True Blood. -- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.png http://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074565] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: kevwaffles \| #045They could lose half of their viewers and still be their most successful show right now, I'm pretty sure. It's hard to find a collection of HBO show ratings all in one place, but Veep's series premiere was only 1.4 million, for comparison.True Blood. -- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.pnghttp://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 04/26/12 2:29:00 PM #47:	Also, I'm really psyched for the new Dunk and Egg. Which Martin said is coming out before the next book. So, that's another thing that will stall Winds. -- "Shut up and put your tinfoil hat back on." - Ulti <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:1074566] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Also, I'm really psyched for the new Dunk and Egg. Which Martin said is coming out before the next book. So, that's another thing that will stall Winds. -- "Shut up and put your tinfoil hat back on." - Ulti </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 04/26/12 3:24:00 PM #48:	From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #046 True Blood. I forgot that was HBO. Thought it was Showtime for whatever reason. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:1074567] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From: AlecTrevelyan006 \| #046True Blood.I forgot that was HBO. Thought it was Showtime for whatever reason. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 04/27/12 11:05:00 PM #49:	From a brief glimpse through the Feast, it looks like there's no Tyrion chapters. I'd imagine once they got here during the season they will definitely start moving things around. One of the last seasons of True Blood had Bill still staring despite the book it's adapted from has him playing no role at all in. -- Menji~ by Ctrl-Alt-Del http://img.imgcake.com/menjipngre.png <cite>Menji76 posted [p:1074568] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> From a brief glimpse through the Feast, it looks like there's no Tyrion chapters. I'd imagine once they got here during the season they will definitely start moving things around.One of the last seasons of True Blood had Bill still staring despite the book it's adapted from has him playing no role at all in. -- Menji~ by Ctrl-Alt-Delhttp://img.imgcake.com/menjipngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 04/28/12 12:02:00 AM #50:	Feast and Dance kind of occur simultaneously, they are practically just one big book. I imagine that once the Storm of Swords seasons finish, the next couple seasons will be both books combined in the proper time line. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:1074569] in Just finis... [t:62637751]...</cite> <quote> Feast and Dance kind of occur simultaneously, they are practically just one big book.I imagine that once the Storm of Swords seasons finish, the next couple seasons will be both books combined in the proper time line. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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