Board 8 > **Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Character XIV** -- Day 84 Aftermath [smfffc]

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:26:00 PM
#151:


Charon has never really been insufferable-- he's just really really easy to poke fun at and so it's kinda fun to do that if you want to create some quick and easy drama.

Like this isn't really a jp thing this is just "people goad him for reactions because he's so think skinned" thing. And I say that as someone who routinely used to do that. I'm not gonna say I'm a better person now I just got bored of it.

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Haguile
04/19/12 9:26:00 PM
#153:


From: Achromatic | #149
If it makes you guys feel any better I am writing a steiner fanfic.


Does it involve pro wrestling and/or Dr Doom? Because if you say yes, that will be wonderful.
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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:26:00 PM
#154:


From: saveus_Maria | #147
hell, as much as Jeff is trying to get on the high horse here, he was the only person who actually believed the screenshot was real and was giving charon any real trouble over it.


I've already mentioned the fact that I wasn't paying much attention and apologized not only in the topic but to vcharon directly.

Do we really need to go all detective story on this? There's not much to it. I'm just asking people to leave the dude alone.

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th3l3fty
04/19/12 9:27:00 PM
#155:


fyi charon I don't actually dislike you

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_Regaro_
04/19/12 9:27:00 PM
#156:


detective stories are fun yes

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:28:00 PM
#157:


From: _Regaro_ | #156
detective stories are fun yes


Alright, fine.

If we must go all detective story, Maria, then I volunteer myself for the role of the widower baker with a smile who feeds homeless people whatever he can but secretly kills successful bankers on weekends.

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Haguile
04/19/12 9:28:00 PM
#158:


From: Jeff Zero | #154
Do we really need to go all detective story on this?


The answer to that question is always yes.
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KamikazePotato
04/19/12 9:28:00 PM
#159:


Leave him alone? vcharon literally created his own drama here. No one did anything to him today. But you seem to be paying as much attention to the actual contents of people's posts as the content of the MSpaint pic so hey.

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saveus_Maria
04/19/12 9:29:00 PM
#160:


From: Jeff Zero | #154
I've already mentioned the fact that I wasn't paying much attention and apologized not only in the topic but to vcharon directly.

Do we really need to go all detective story on this? There's not much to it. I'm just asking people to leave the dude alone.


I'm not going 'detective story' on anything but it seems like you're clearly ignoring the fact that one of the main reasons charon probably got upset is because of your words and actions toward him. no one else was being even remotely serious.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:29:00 PM
#162:


From: saveus_Maria | #160
I'm not going 'detective story' on anything but it seems like you're clearly ignoring the fact that one of the main reasons charon probably got upset is because of your words and actions toward him. no one else was being even remotely serious.


If that is the case, vcharon (bolded to draw his attention obv.) then I apologize again.

:)

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pjbasis
04/19/12 9:30:00 PM
#163:


And he already apologized!

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:30:00 PM
#164:


From: NioraptH | #161
..I'm sorry..... but..... it had to be done... and I feel bad for being an ass in advance


Apology accepted, Nio. Yours actually made me laugh!

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:30:00 PM
#165:


Just for the record I'm not personally saying "leave him alone" I'm just saying that trying to act like antagonizing him is some sort of righteous act like you are KP is a bit misleading.

Paint a spade a spade, or something.

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:31:00 PM
#166:


(And I know you weren't talking to me)

(But I'm talking to you)

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saveus_Maria
04/19/12 9:32:00 PM
#167:


Lopen you may want to sit this topic out you've clearly already come into this fiasco totally unbalanced and made a joke of yourself by falsely accusing me of posting that hilarious fanfiction (which I would have posted on my main account if it was me)

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XIII_rocks
04/19/12 9:32:00 PM
#168:


This is a cute and pop genocide of love

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:32:00 PM
#169:


I don't even know what's going on!

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KamikazePotato
04/19/12 9:34:00 PM
#170:


I don't think antagonizing vcharon is 'righteous'. I think that there are extremely obvious reasons for why someone would antagonize vcharon, that no one even antagonized him today, and that someone getting on their high horse for vcharon when no one did anything to him after he was the one that probably even caused the outburst was ridiculous. It's that simple.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/19/12 9:35:00 PM
#171:


Dissidia shouldve been a 2D fighter by Arcsys instead of some ****ed up Lovechild of Budokai and Flash Hiders.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:35:00 PM
#172:


From: KamikazePotato | #159
Leave him alone? vcharon literally created his own drama here. No one did anything to him today. But you seem to be paying as much attention to the actual contents of people's posts as the content of the MSpaint pic so hey.


Well anything I've done wrong here tonight I take the blame for through and through. As it stands I'm looking at one thing though -- something I've already apologized for -- which was making the mistake of clicking on something I would have realized was obviously made-up if I'd looked at it for more than two seconds in between a game of Risk with four of my good friends over beer.

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Xuxon
04/19/12 9:36:00 PM
#173:


From: Jeff Zero | #172
Well anything I've done wrong here tonight I take the blame for through and through. As it stands I'm looking at one thing though -- something I've already apologized for -- which was making the mistake of clicking on something I would have realized was obviously made-up if I'd looked at it for more than two seconds in between a game of Risk with four of my good friends over beer.


how drunk do you have to be not to recognize that as fake in 1 second, wow

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XIII_rocks
04/19/12 9:36:00 PM
#174:


Can we just declare this a no-contest since there are no good characters left in this thing

Except for Sephiroth. Who is passable.

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The Mana Sword
04/19/12 9:37:00 PM
#176:


true story if you jerkwads had saved Cissnei last round none of this would have happened

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LeonhartFour
04/19/12 9:37:00 PM
#177:


XIII_rocks posted...
Can we just declare this a no-contest since there are no good characters left in this thing

Except for Sephiroth. Who is passable.


Hey look it's the one guy who is less qualified to speak about the quality of FF than Regaro!

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:37:00 PM
#178:


From: KamikazePotato | #140
People troll vcharon because he has been, in the past, absolutely insufferable.


That to me sounds like you're trying to make it seem like a righteous or justified thing to do. Like he "earned it" or something. It's not, really.

It's a funny thing to do if you haven't seen it like 30 times though.

It's also practically unavoidable given how sensitive the guy is but that's another point entirely.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:38:00 PM
#179:


From: Xuxon | #173
how drunk do you have to be not to recognize that as fake in 1 second, wow


I've had a few. And it was a very fast open-and-close-the-link session, that.

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Haguile
04/19/12 9:38:00 PM
#180:


Nobody even trolled vcharon today. KP just made a joke picture that was not even close to trolling somebody. Why is this even an argument?
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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:39:00 PM
#181:


From: KamikazePotato | #170
I don't think antagonizing vcharon is 'righteous'. I think that there are extremely obvious reasons for why someone would antagonize vcharon, that no one even antagonized him today, and that someone getting on their high horse for vcharon when no one did anything to him after he was the one that probably even caused the outburst was ridiculous. It's that simple.


Tell you what, I'll drop it. Sound good to you?

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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/19/12 9:39:00 PM
#182:


If SNK did it it should use Last Blade, instead of Shamslow.

4 of Shamslow was pretty good at least.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:40:00 PM
#183:


From: Haguile | #180
Nobody even trolled vcharon today. KP just made a joke picture that was not even close to trolling somebody. Why is this even an argument?


Trolling was definitely not the right word for it. I latched onto that word when others mentioned it -- here, on AIM, all over the place. It wasn't trolling, but there's just this weird anti-vcharon in-joke going on round after round and I just don't 'get' it.

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XIII_rocks
04/19/12 9:40:00 PM
#184:


From: LeonhartFour | #177
XIII_rocks posted...
Can we just declare this a no-contest since there are no good characters left in this thing

Except for Sephiroth. Who is passable.


Hey look it's the one guy who is less qualified to speak about the quality of FF than Regaro!


Wait

I'm "less qualified" because I don't think it's any good? You do know I've actually played a good deal of the PS1/PS2-era games, right? (and FF5)

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Xuxon
04/19/12 9:40:00 PM
#185:


From: Haguile | #180
Nobody even trolled vcharon today. KP just made a joke picture that was not even close to trolling somebody. Why is this even an argument?


the fanfic is what upset him, obviously

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KamikazePotato
04/19/12 9:41:00 PM
#186:


I was just stating the truth. You can try to suger-coat it all you want by saying 'he's just thin-skinned', but really. People don't mess with thin-skinned people as badly as I've seen people mess with vcharon. I don't think it's 'righteous' or 'justified' or whatever but going 'I don't get why people are being so mean to vcharon' is just plain wrong.

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KamikazePotato
04/19/12 9:42:00 PM
#188:


And yeah Jeff, dropping it sounds good.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:44:00 PM
#189:


From: KamikazePotato | #186
I was just stating the truth. You can try to suger-coat it all you want by saying 'he's just thin-skinned', but really. People don't mess with thin-skinned people as badly as I've seen people mess with vcharon. I don't think it's 'righteous' or 'justified' or whatever but going 'I don't get why people are being so mean to vcharon' is just plain wrong.


Well let me put it another way.

l3fty's got people making jokes about him pretty often. He takes it like a champ though. I don't know the history there either. For as long as I've been around here I really don't know the histories behind a lot of users' weird circles and anti-circles and totally-joking stuff and... whatever. And I rarely care to... care, but tonight I wish I knew these things!

vcharon's the only other dude in the contest that people always seem to be takin' cracks at, and yeah, it's lighthearted enough, but it just seems weird to me how recurring it is. If he's the 'Kenny always dies on South Park' of this contest or something (really bad example but I'm pretty drunk, man) then it just seems like an odd choice.

You say he's been insufferable in the past (that was you, right? Don't feel like confirming) but I missed that, whatever that was, so I come in and yeah, I've got the kind of personality where I want to help people too much and I get involved in inane pseudo-arguments that shouldn't even be happening like this one, but I come in and it just seems just odd enough to make a comment about.

Poor word choice on my part maybe, but there's a cause for it and it isn't just 'he's being ridiculous'.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:45:00 PM
#190:


godf***

timing is everything

sorry for replying after you said that KP, but at least know all that stuff I just wrote isn't hostile or anything

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vcharon
04/19/12 9:45:00 PM
#191:


KamikazePotato posted...
I don't think antagonizing vcharon is 'righteous'. I think that there are extremely obvious reasons for why someone would antagonize vcharon, that no one even antagonized him today, and that someone getting on their high horse for vcharon when no one did anything to him after he was the one that probably even caused the outburst was ridiculous. It's that simple.

Maybe it was.

Again, you know my "history" here. I regret overreacting in some instances of things, but I am not a bad person. I have tried to "play nice" and be "cool" this contest. I don't feel I deserve the daily trolling session. And Lately that has been breaking down because I just don't weather trolling too well. Yeah you posted your thing, everyone had a laugh. But I'm the butt of the joke. As I said, I can take a joke, however I feel you generally do not like me or regard me positively at all. When that happens, yeah I don't like it nor does it make me feel too good you would carry this on and on tirelessly in a contest you don't even really participate in. It feels malicious and while it was a simple little thing at the end of the day, it is the underlying root of it all. I know several people here just don't like me, and I consider you one of those people honestly. I don't really regard you in the same way as others because you make quality posts elsewhere, but my general vibe from you is that you just don't like me. I don't deal well with it, so yeah. But this was unprovoked, I had not even said anything to warrant it. I was not being "insufferable".

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HeroicGammaRay
04/19/12 9:46:00 PM
#192:


wow and here i am just trying to save my favorite final fantasy characters
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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/19/12 9:46:00 PM
#193:


cant say I liked some of the inputs in some of the games <_<

Also besides Capcom being completely greedy dumbasses, they do make mechanically fine fighters for the most part.
Unless people still complain about Phoenix and Wesker.

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:47:00 PM
#194:


I get exactly why people are "being mean"

But it has nothing to do with him being "insufferable" is all I was saying. Unless you consider his off the wall reactions to slight changes in the direction of the wind insufferable. I don't really think insufferable is close to the right adjective, though, given that a lot of people fish for it. Not that it takes any sort of fine bait or anything.

And yeah I'm not saying charon was being trolled or anything-- I didn't even see the fanfic or pic or whatever. I was just arguing against what you said there, nothing else. Seemed to tint the situation in the wrong way.

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:47:00 PM
#195:


From: HeroicGammaRay | #192
wow and here i am just trying to save my favorite final fantasy characters


That's what I was doing up until about an hour ago, rest assured!

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Jeff Zero
04/19/12 9:47:00 PM
#196:


From: Lopen | #194
I get exactly why people are "being mean"

But it has nothing to do with him being "insufferable" is all I was saying. Unless you consider his off the wall reactions to slight changes in the direction of the wind insufferable. I don't really think insufferable is close to the right adjective, though, given that a lot of people fish for it. Not that it takes any sort of fine bait or anything.

And yeah I'm not saying charon was being trolled or anything-- I didn't even see the fanfic or pic or whatever. I was just arguing against what you said there, nothing else. Seemed to tint the situation in the wrong way.


The fanfic was just... weird

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GenesisSaga
04/19/12 9:50:00 PM
#197:


HeroicGammaRay posted...
wow and here i am just trying to save my favorite final fantasy characters

Aren't we all? >_>

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KamikazePotato
04/19/12 9:50:00 PM
#198:


I picked you for the pic because you've been the most staunchly anti-rallying person in the contest (from what I've seen from the few times I've been voted this time, and from the past) and it made a good contrast. That was it.

I can't comment on how you've acted the rest of the contest but it had nothing to do with that.

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Lopen
04/19/12 9:50:00 PM
#199:


If I was in it I kinda wish I did see it even if it was terribly written. I mean if I was in it how bad could it be.

Then again I sleep through half the rounds so maybe I'm not important enough anymore.

Then again Lisel_Testify wrote it and I know he loves me so.

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LeonhartFour
04/19/12 9:51:00 PM
#201:


You weren't in it.

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