Board 8 > Why don't all KH games just use the same combat system...

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The simplicity of the button mash system is what I miss most when playing CoM and 358/2. I hate having to build decks/panels. I've heard Birth by Sleep is more similar to KH and KH2 in this regard?

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Birth By Sleep is definitley much closer to KH/KH2, no needed cards or whatever to attack and stuff and the battle system is similar to KH2s

I would definitley recommend getting it

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That's what I've heard too but I've never played it. I agree with the dislike of CoM's battle system as well, it's too difficult to handle to be fun.

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Re:coded panels are amazing though.

And BBS still has a relatively complex deck system.

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Wait for KH3 to come out, lololol.

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Birth By Sleep's isn't THAT complex

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Because Japan + cards = yes.

At least that's what I'm assuming 'deck system' means.I haven't touched the series since KH1.

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I actually prefer Birth by Sleep's battle system to all other KH systems. It's not that much different but I just really, really like it.

Didn't really like mixing commands to get new commands, but oh well.

The changes are mostly for stats and commands, though IIRC, some of the spinoffs got rid of MP for a command reload type thing.

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From: SuperAngelo128 | #006
Birth By Sleep's isn't THAT complex

Hence relatively!

KH1 and KHII had no complexities at all!

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They called it a deck in CoM but it wasn't really anything like that and you could always reload to restore the deck outside of those removed by sleights. The reason people don't like CoM, in part at least, is that it required pre-meditated math to determine your deck order and some memorization so you could pull your sleights at will.

Or you can make the game really easy by stacking Zeros at the front and making every other card invariably result in the completely broken Sonic Rave!

The BBS battle system is pretty good, but all the surrounding fusion stuff is awfully complicated if I recall.
And the Monopoly game and ice cream flavors and auuugh.

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I don't mind complexity, but introducing it gradually and with adequate explanation helps.

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Not gonna lie, first time I played through CoM, I just smashed everybody with high-numbered (and a few zeros) keyblade cards with no thought put to sleights.

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Yeah, the board game was stupid. You aren't ever required to play it but it really wasn't something they should have spent any amount of time on.

Maybe it has more appeal in crowded cities where other people have the game (probably not...)

BBS's is probably the most mashy of all of them outside of the actually difficult fights. <_< They just made it really flashy if you build your deck right.

But BBS's fusion system is pretty much bulls*** if you want any of the actual good passive abilities.

And 358/2 had a battle system almost just like KH1, just with crappier controls. (also panels were awesome)

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Being in a crowded city does not mean random people with PSPs and the same game loaded will want to play Monopoly with you.

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Birth By Sleep didn't do much for me because the environments are just so flat and sterile. Maybe it's the graphics or the fact it's a portable, but the entire game seemed "off" and was nowhere near as engaging as the PS2 games were.

edit: yeah the fusion system sucks. It makes grinding mats more of a chore than it needs to be.

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Natwaf_akidna posted...
Not gonna lie, first time I played through CoM, I just smashed everybody with high-numbered (and a few zeros) keyblade cards with no thought put to sleights.

I think a lot of people did that until they hit Larxene II or Riku IV and gave up.

I think the only problem I had was against... Hook, of all people. Finished with little problem... for Sora. Riku's fight with Ansem was insanely annoying.

Then a few years later I decided to replay, and discovered the power sleights. AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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