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Xbyte 03/25/12 10:34:00 AM #1: |
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JDTAY 03/25/12 10:36:00 AM #2: |
This better be a rickroll.
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Mik_Pick 03/25/12 10:50:00 AM #3: |
I'm so tired of this debate. :(
And her annoying lisp. -- XBL: Mik Pick PSN: Mik2Pick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westbrick 03/25/12 10:53:00 AM #4: |
"If you don't like it, go to college."
What a snarky, lispy *****. -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westbrick 03/25/12 10:56:00 AM #5: |
Oh, and here's another gem of a line from this vid:
"The ultimate reason that .999... equals 1 is because it works." Yes, because truth == practicality. This video is grossly oversimplified, and even if she's right, she's not the best teacher. Also her humor blows. -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tyder21 03/25/12 11:01:00 AM #6: |
From: Westbrick | #006 Not really. -- Pun's Rendition of Myself: http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/TYDERpngyr.png Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/tyder21 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_DK 03/25/12 11:02:00 AM #7: |
.999~ is = to 1, there is no damn debate about it.
Anyone who says otherwise needs to pay attention to a lecture about infinity and its properties. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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baron von toast 03/25/12 11:04:00 AM #8: |
I got ninety eight point nine repeating problems, but point nine repeating is one.
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Xbyte 03/25/12 11:05:00 AM #9: |
Metal_DK posted...
.999~ is = to 1, there is no damn debate about it. Anyone who says otherwise needs to pay attention to a lecture about infinity and its properties. Just deal with it. .999 = 1. Stop arguing. -- FEVER. PRESCRIPTION. COWBELL. http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/sig/newblack/chicken%20taco.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/25/12 11:05:00 AM #10: |
.999 =/= 1.
.999... = 1 And .999~ = 1 But just .999? No. Learn math before you post this. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westbrick 03/25/12 11:06:00 AM #11: |
.999~ is = to 1, there is no damn debate about it.
Anyone who says otherwise needs to pay attention to a lecture about infinity and its properties. Except that there's plenty of debate about it. When you treat .999 as a normal number susceptible to the rules of basic algebra, then you can perform those proofs we all learned in middle school about how .999 = 1. The real question boils down to whether or not such equations can be performed on an infinite. This doesn't bother me, though. What does bother me is that they're conceptually incompatible: .999 -> number infinitely close to 1 1 -> 1 They're not the same, and the saying "save the appearances" applies here. -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 03/25/12 11:08:00 AM #12: |
I thought it was always accepted that .999 isn't 1, because there's a number between them
but .9999~ is 1 because there isn't. >_> -- "My goal is to make this s*** cool again." - CM Punk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 03/25/12 11:09:00 AM #13: |
xbyte = just as awful as strahax
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LowCalorieH2O 03/25/12 11:09:00 AM #14: |
if i could only back hand the little hoe that posed this question in the first place
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OctilIery 03/25/12 11:09:00 AM #15: |
.999~ IS NOT 1, but it is EQUAL to 1.
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Westbrick 03/25/12 11:10:00 AM #16: |
I thought it was always accepted that .999 isn't 1, because there's a number between them
but .9999~ is 1 because there isn't. >_> Yeah, that's one of the proofs used in the video (I believe about halfway through?). Again, it comes into some conceptual difficulty: just because there isn't a number between .999 and 1 doesn't mean they're equal. This belief comes from our inclination to divide things into discrete parts, when- as the video itself emphasizes- this is the wrong way to approach things. -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 03/25/12 11:11:00 AM #17: |
From: Westbrick | #011 Those proofs aren't proofs for the reasons you stated. One property of real numbers is that for every two real numbers x and y, either x = y or there exists a real number z such that z is between x and y. Using this property you can show that 0.999~ and 1 are equal. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 03/25/12 11:12:00 AM #18: |
From: OctilIery | #015 This is just semantics in any normal conversation -- "With Harry, it's cool. We don't speak a lot and he doesn't care if I smile or if I know who the next team we play is." - Benoit Assou-Ekotto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westbrick 03/25/12 11:12:00 AM #19: |
.999~ IS NOT 1, but it is EQUAL to 1.
This is just a lexical ambiguity. When people say ".999 is 1," they almost always mean that they're equal. For comparison, your point can be rephrased in different numbers... 1/2 IS NOT .5, but it is EQUAL to .5. ...which isn't what we're talking about. -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 03/25/12 11:13:00 AM #20: |
NO.
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Westbrick 03/25/12 11:14:00 AM #21: |
Those proofs aren't proofs for the reasons you stated.
One property of real numbers is that for every two real numbers x and y, either x = y or there exists a real number z such that z is between x and y. Using this property you can show that 0.999~ and 1 are equal. Well-said. So I take if you'd say it follows from this that if the term in question doesn't fall into the realm of real numbers, then this type of proof can't necessarily be applied? -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 03/25/12 11:14:00 AM #22: |
From: XIII_rocks | #018 It's wrong anyway. They are two equivalent ways of expressing the same number. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 03/25/12 11:15:00 AM #23: |
This sure is a topic that needed to exist again
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Westbrick 03/25/12 11:17:00 AM #24: |
...This isn't actually a common B8 topic, is it? Someone fill me in.
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Ness26 03/25/12 11:18:00 AM #25: |
From: Westbrick | #021 0.999~ is real. It has no imaginary component. If you want something more rigorous (which I've been deliberately trying to avoid), check out things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_number#Completeness You can apply that directly to show that 0.999~ is real. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/25/12 11:18:00 AM #26: |
Ness26 posted...
From: XIII_rocks | #018 This is just semantics in any normal conversation It's wrong anyway. They are two equivalent ways of expressing the same number. Not really. They're two different numbers with the same value. They are not the same, but they are equal. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 03/25/12 11:19:00 AM #27: |
From: Westbrick | #024 we have been arguing over this for years -- ~Tommeri Uranius Bombaldi the Fourth, esq. If you can read this, I'm probably posting from my phone or something! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 03/25/12 11:19:00 AM #28: |
From: LordoftheMorons | #023 Yeah, considering it's Xbyte and Westbrick I'm aware that there's no hope of actually convincing anyone of anything. I stick with it until their argument breaks down to whining and refusal to accept basic principles. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xbyte 03/25/12 11:21:00 AM #29: |
Ness26 posted...
From: LordoftheMorons | #023 This sure is a topic that needed to exist again Yeah, considering it's Xbyte and Westbrick I'm aware that there's no hope of actually convincing anyone of anything. I stick with it until their argument breaks down to whining and refusal to accept basic principles. I'm barely posting in this topic, smart guy. -- FEVER. PRESCRIPTION. COWBELL. http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/sig/newblack/chicken%20taco.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 03/25/12 11:22:00 AM #30: |
From: OctilIery | #026 I'm pretty sure language like this causes nearly every uniqueness theorem to be broken open. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 03/25/12 11:23:00 AM #31: |
I'm barely posting in this topic, smart guy.
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Xbyte 03/25/12 11:24:00 AM #32: |
OmarsComin posted...
I'm barely posting in this topic, smart guy. it's probably for the best Who are you, again? -- FEVER. PRESCRIPTION. COWBELL. http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/sig/newblack/chicken%20taco.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ness26 03/25/12 11:24:00 AM #33: |
From: Xbyte | #029 What can I say, there was so much wrong information in this topic I just assumed you were the one posting it. Sorry. Your reputation preceded you, I suppose. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 03/25/12 11:25:00 AM #34: |
it doesn't matter, everyone on this board feels the same way
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Xbyte 03/25/12 11:25:00 AM #35: |
Ness26 posted...
From: Xbyte | #029 I'm barely posting in this topic, smart guy. What can I say, there was so much wrong information in this topic I just assumed you were the one posting it. Sorry. Your reputation preceded you, I suppose. hurrrr hurrrrr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr -- FEVER. PRESCRIPTION. COWBELL. http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/sig/newblack/chicken%20taco.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpeedYoshi 03/25/12 11:31:00 AM #36: |
thank god there's a troll on this board for this argument
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Takfloyd_mkII__ 03/25/12 11:39:00 AM #37: |
0.999~ isn't = 1 until someone counts all the 9s to see if there's room for another number between them.
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special_sauce 03/25/12 12:13:00 PM #38: |
In other news, I just fell in love with this chick in this video.
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tereziWright 03/25/12 12:17:00 PM #39: |
wait
Xbyte ISN'T Strahax? -- http://img.imgcake.com/1327084525516jpgra.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JDTAY 03/25/12 12:20:00 PM #40: |
Still disappointed that this wasn't a rickroll.
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Westbrick 03/25/12 12:34:00 PM #41: |
Yeah, considering it's Xbyte and Westbrick I'm aware that there's no hope of actually convincing anyone of anything. I stick with it until their argument breaks down to whining and refusal to accept basic principles.
Whoa now, do I have a reputation here already? Sweet. Clearly this is something that's going nowhere fast, and there are people better at and more studied in mathematics than I here, so I'll defer. The conceptual friction is troubling, but it's not worth getting riled up about. -- Tebow to Jests? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19b15IB731qzdb47o1_400.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnkboy907 03/25/12 12:38:00 PM #42: |
And here I thought B8 was above CE. Oh well.
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ViviffTheMobile 03/25/12 12:42:00 PM #43: |
I've always wondered then why .99~8 (9s repeating with an 8 on the end) isn't then equal to .999~ which is equal to 1, and then you work forward backward through all the numbers infinitely like that and then all numbers equal all other numbers.
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SpeedYoshi 03/25/12 12:44:00 PM #44: |
because .999~8 isn't a real number
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Ness26 03/25/12 12:45:00 PM #45: |
From: ViviffTheMobile | #043 Your number is ill-defined. You say you're putting an 8 on the end... but there is no end. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SovietOmega 03/25/12 12:47:00 PM #46: |
XD watching her fibonacci stuff. slug cats <3<3<3
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ViviffTheMobile 03/25/12 12:52:00 PM #47: |
Ah, very good. I see my liberal arts degree is showing, so I'll just show myself out.
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Forceful_Dragon 03/25/12 12:54:00 PM #48: |
I love Vihart videos. FD approves of this topic.
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Red Shifter 03/25/12 12:57:00 PM #49: |
999/1000 is not 1
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Forceful_Dragon 03/25/12 1:00:00 PM #50: |
From: Red Shifter | #049 but 999.999999999999999999~ / 1000 is 1. -- ~Ç~ http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/fdshieldpngyn.png Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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