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baron von toast 03/11/12 1:00:00 AM #401:	Just finished the game. Heard we can talk about the "ending" in here. Haven't read through too much of the previous discussion so pardon my intrusion. Just the most recent page or so. Is making a proper end to a story really that hard without delving into the metaphysical deus ex bull**? I guess so. I mean, this thing the simplest ending possible: Shepard destroys the Reapers and everyone lives happily ever after. But no. This is why we can't have nice things. Also I wasn't to use the final persuasion options on TIM. What gives? My reputation was maxed and then some. Not paragon enough? -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877005] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Just finished the game. Heard we can talk about the "ending" in here. Haven't read through too much of the previous discussion so pardon my intrusion. Just the most recent page or so.Is making a proper end to a story really that hard without delving into the metaphysical deus ex bull**? I guess so. I mean, this thing the simplest ending possible: Shepard destroys the Reapers and everyone lives happily ever after. But no. This is why we can't have nice things.Also I wasn't to use the final persuasion options on TIM. What gives? My reputation was maxed and then some. Not paragon enough? -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 03/11/12 3:09:00 AM #402:	Also I was getting rocked on that last bit with INFINITE BANSHEES until I realized that if I just stood behind the phone booth they'd walk right into the Destroyer's beam and I didn't even have to shoot anything. -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877006] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Also I was getting rocked on that last bit with INFINITE BANSHEES until I realized that if I just stood behind the phone booth they'd walk right into the Destroyer's beam and I didn't even have to shoot anything. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 10:09:00 AM #403:	Know what pissed me off this time around? I accidentally romanced Liara and couldn't go back to Tali because they introduced Tali too goddamn late in the game. And I would have wanted to fight Harbinger. I wanted to pretend he was the Reaper that I stared down on Rannoch. After that fight I was hoping I would be killing Harbinger with the Crucible at the end :( Would have loved an ending where I was reunited with my crew, maybe right after the Reapers were destroyed and my two team members helping me stand up, me with my smashed helmet exposing my face, staring down on the Earth as the Reapers plunge down on the planet as great fireballs. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877007] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Know what pissed me off this time around? I accidentally romanced Liara and couldn't go back to Tali because they introduced Tali too goddamn late in the game.And I would have wanted to fight Harbinger. I wanted to pretend he was the Reaper that I stared down on Rannoch. After that fight I was hoping I would be killing Harbinger with the Crucible at the end :(Would have loved an ending where I was reunited with my crew, maybe right after the Reapers were destroyed and my two team members helping me stand up, me with my smashed helmet exposing my face, staring down on the Earth as the Reapers plunge down on the planet as great fireballs. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/11/12 10:10:00 AM #404:	From: baron von toast \| #401 Also I wasn't able to use the final persuasion options on TIM. What gives? My reputation was maxed and then some. Not paragon enough? My girlfriend had this problem and I heard a lot of other people did as well. You probably either didn't do enough sidequests or didn't talk to your squadmates enough...or something else that affects Reputation. You definitely don't need to be 100% Paragon or Renegade. I was at something like 1/3 Renegade 2/3 Paragon and I was able to do it fine. You just need max Reputation. If you really wan tto know what happens, not much changes. TIM pulls a Saren and there's a nice scene with Anderson before he dies anyways. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:877008] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: baron von toast \| #401Also I wasn't able to use the final persuasion options on TIM. What gives? My reputation was maxed and then some. Not paragon enough?My girlfriend had this problem and I heard a lot of other people did as well. You probably either didn't do enough sidequests or didn't talk to your squadmates enough...or something else that affects Reputation. You definitely don't need to be 100% Paragon or Renegade. I was at something like 1/3 Renegade 2/3 Paragon and I was able to do it fine. You just need max Reputation.If you really wan tto know what happens, not much changes. TIM pulls a Saren and there's a nice scene with Anderson before he dies anyways. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 03/11/12 10:18:00 AM #405:	I definitely had max rep. I spent what I felt to be an inordinate amount of time talking to my squadmates and did every sidequest I could find. I think I missed the item for one and it lapsed after the coup, but I certainly did everything else. Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that? -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877009] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I definitely had max rep. I spent what I felt to be an inordinate amount of time talking to my squadmates and did every sidequest I could find. I think I missed the item for one and it lapsed after the coup, but I certainly did everything else.Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that? -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 10:19:00 AM #406:	I couldn't do it because I couldn't finish a few of the side quests before the Cerberus coup. -- caps <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877010] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I couldn't do it because I couldn't finish a few of the side quests before the Cerberus coup. -- caps </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/11/12 10:20:00 AM #407:	From: baron von toast \| #405 Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that? I also got this bug. No idea what causes it, and it doesn't seem to affect anything... Maybe it's indicative of some future DLC? I have no idea. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:877011] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: baron von toast \| #405Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that?I also got this bug. No idea what causes it, and it doesn't seem to affect anything...Maybe it's indicative of some future DLC? I have no idea. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/11/12 10:24:00 AM #408:	Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that? That happened to me too. It was bothering me for the longest time, because I had a sidequest sitting there for longer than I thought it should be, and it was the only one left (Cerberus Ciphers) and I was worried the game glitched and I needed to go there for it. I didn't, but that didn't fix anything with that planet. I have no idea what was going on there. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX <cite>xp1337 posted [p:877012] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that?That happened to me too. It was bothering me for the longest time, because I had a sidequest sitting there for longer than I thought it should be, and it was the only one left (Cerberus Ciphers) and I was worried the game glitched and I needed to go there for it. I didn't, but that didn't fix anything with that planet. I have no idea what was going on there. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 10:25:00 AM #409:	You buy the ciphers at the Spectre terminal. I couldn't find out how to get the Benning evidence, maybe I could have bought it at the Spectre terminal too >_> -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877013] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> You buy the ciphers at the Spectre terminal. I couldn't find out how to get the Benning evidence, maybe I could have bought it at the Spectre terminal too >_> -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/11/12 10:30:00 AM #410:	From: GranzonEx \| #409 You buy the ciphers at the Spectre terminal. I couldn't find out how to get the Benning evidence, maybe I could have bought it at the Spectre terminal too >_> Nah, you can get the Ciphers from this one planet that Traynor gives you, I think. It was the very last sidequest I got, between Rannoch and Cerberus HQ, AFAIK. I think the Spectre Terminal acts as a backup in case you miss something important on a planet, since you can't return there to pick it up. But I'm not 100% sure on that. I know right after Rannoch I went to the Terminal and it showed a Geth item of some sort, and if you read the description it says something like "Pretend you got this on Rannoch." and I got it so I could finish a sidequest. As for the Benning Evidence, when you actually land on Benning for a sidequest, you can find a Dog Tag on the ground there somewhere and pick it up, and it's the quest item. I know I had to reload and retry the mission for that because I realized after the first time I cleared the mission, "...Wait a second, I was supposed to get something here, wasn't I?" -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX <cite>xp1337 posted [p:877014] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: GranzonEx \| #409You buy the ciphers at the Spectre terminal. I couldn't find out how to get the Benning evidence, maybe I could have bought it at the Spectre terminal too >_>Nah, you can get the Ciphers from this one planet that Traynor gives you, I think. It was the very last sidequest I got, between Rannoch and Cerberus HQ, AFAIK.I think the Spectre Terminal acts as a backup in case you miss something important on a planet, since you can't return there to pick it up. But I'm not 100% sure on that. I know right after Rannoch I went to the Terminal and it showed a Geth item of some sort, and if you read the description it says something like "Pretend you got this on Rannoch." and I got it so I could finish a sidequest.As for the Benning Evidence, when you actually land on Benning for a sidequest, you can find a Dog Tag on the ground there somewhere and pick it up, and it's the quest item. I know I had to reload and retry the mission for that because I realized after the first time I cleared the mission, "...Wait a second, I was supposed to get something here, wasn't I?" -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 10:35:00 AM #411:	Ah I was running around Benning for like 30 minutes trying to pick up everything, and when I left I didn't get the evidence... -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877015] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Ah I was running around Benning for like 30 minutes trying to pick up everything, and when I left I didn't get the evidence... -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheKoolAidShoto 03/11/12 10:48:00 AM #412:	why did they cut this -- You know who's sexy? Black Turtle, the 2010 Games Contest Guru Winner, that's who! <cite>TheKoolAidShoto posted [p:877016] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> why did they cut this -- You know who's sexy? Black Turtle, the 2010 Games Contest Guru Winner, that's who! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 10:55:00 AM #413:	I wonder if the Charm/Intimidate options you choose with the Illusive Man during all your conversations up to that point have some effect on the last one. -- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877017] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I wonder if the Charm/Intimidate options you choose with the Illusive Man during all your conversations up to that point have some effect on the last one. -- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!""Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 03/11/12 10:59:00 AM #414:	That's another thing. I take the charm option every chance I get so I still don't know why I couldn't use the last one. He just Sarens himself so no biggie I guess. Renegade interrupt was nice. -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877018] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> That's another thing. I take the charm option every chance I get so I still don't know why I couldn't use the last one. He just Sarens himself so no biggie I guess. Renegade interrupt was nice. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:00:00 AM #415:	Yeah, I don't understand what would cause it not to happen. I picked the Charm option every time, had a full bar, and I got it. There must be some sort of in-game formula based on previous decisions that determines if you can do it or not. That's what determines if you can solve the quarian/geth conflict peacefully anyway. If you made the wrong decisions in ME2, you can't do it. -- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877019] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, I don't understand what would cause it not to happen. I picked the Charm option every time, had a full bar, and I got it.There must be some sort of in-game formula based on previous decisions that determines if you can do it or not. That's what determines if you can solve the quarian/geth conflict peacefully anyway. If you made the wrong decisions in ME2, you can't do it. -- "I can set you free, mate.""My freedom was forfeit long ago!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/11/12 11:02:00 AM #416:	why did they cut this ... ... ...there has to be a reason for this. but i just can't think of one. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX <cite>xp1337 posted [p:877020] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> why did they cut this.........there has to be a reason for this.but i just can't think of one. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 03/11/12 11:04:00 AM #417:	I guess I was kind of rude to him at the end of ME2 when I blew up the Collector base and told him off with the renegade option. -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877021] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I guess I was kind of rude to him at the end of ME2 when I blew up the Collector base and told him off with the renegade option. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeteorExF 03/11/12 11:08:00 AM #418:	From: TheKoolAidShoto \| #412 why did they cut this Ugh what the hell happened at Bioware, why would you ever cut this? -- If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. - Zapp Brannigan <cite>MeteorExF posted [p:877022] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: TheKoolAidShoto \| #412why did they cut thisUgh what the hell happened at Bioware, why would you ever cut this? -- If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. - Zapp Brannigan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:09:00 AM #419:	Also, started up my Tali/Vanguard file. Already noticing some small changes in dialogue, and I just got to the Citadel. -- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877023] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Also, started up my Tali/Vanguard file. Already noticing some small changes in dialogue, and I just got to the Citadel. -- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:16:00 AM #420:	Whoa, I had no idea you could get counter punched. That's great. -- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877024] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Whoa, I had no idea you could get counter punched. That's great. -- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/11/12 11:24:00 AM #421:	From: TheKoolAidShoto \| #412 why did they cut this WHY THE F* DID THEY CUT THAT They just really utterly dropped the ball with the whole ending. UGH. -- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:877025] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: TheKoolAidShoto \| #412why did they cut thisWHY THE F* DID THEY CUT THATThey just really utterly dropped the ball with the whole ending. UGH. -- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family.http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeteorExF 03/11/12 11:27:00 AM #422:	I'm flabbergasted, I'm starting to think they deliberately sabotaged the ending. -- If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. - Zapp Brannigan <cite>MeteorExF posted [p:877026] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I'm flabbergasted, I'm starting to think they deliberately sabotaged the ending. -- If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. - Zapp Brannigan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/11/12 11:34:00 AM #423:	From: TheKoolAidShoto \| #412 why did they cut this Most of that is in the game except for them talking about their families. What's left is still a very touching scene IMO. Game could have ended right there and I would have been fine. Still don't know why that part was cut. It's cheesy as hell but that obviously isn't a problem considering the scene immediately afterward involves a magic space god who is awful at his job. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:877027] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: TheKoolAidShoto \| #412why did they cut thisMost of that is in the game except for them talking about their families. What's left is still a very touching scene IMO. Game could have ended right there and I would have been fine.Still don't know why that part was cut. It's cheesy as hell but that obviously isn't a problem considering the scene immediately afterward involves a magic space god who is awful at his job. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/11/12 11:38:00 AM #424:	A magic space god that took the form of that stupid ass child. -- *~Halo* Give into the Night. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:877028] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> A magic space god that took the form of that stupid ass child. -- ~Halo Give into the Night.http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:40:00 AM #425:	Well, I assume it took the form of the child for the same reason the quarians took their present form instead of being suitless during the consensus dive. It was just adapting to Shepard's expectations or whatever. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877029] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Well, I assume it took the form of the child for the same reason the quarians took their present form instead of being suitless during the consensus dive. It was just adapting to Shepard's expectations or whatever. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please.""Not until the end. Always." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 11:44:00 AM #426:	I understood the ending, I just didn't like how it was executed. There is no closure. The Catalyst was fine until you couldn't talk him out of doing whatever the hell you wanted. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877030] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I understood the ending, I just didn't like how it was executed. There is no closure. The Catalyst was fine until you couldn't talk him out of doing whatever the hell you wanted. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:45:00 AM #427:	From: GranzonEx \| #426 There is no closure. Until the epilogue DLC...! But only if you choose to destroy the Reapers because it's implied Shepard survives. -- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877031] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: GranzonEx \| #426There is no closure.Until the epilogue DLC...!But only if you choose to destroy the Reapers because it's implied Shepard survives. -- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/11/12 11:48:00 AM #428:	Only if you have a high enough readiness rating too. But even so I just didn't like the whole Catalyst being a god controlling the Reapers thing. It was almost out of nowhere. And these games have always had a positive outlook on humans and synthetics working together, I mean s*, they even have a human and an AI hook up in this game. Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together? What? Stop contradicting everything I've come to know god dammit. -- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:877032] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Only if you have a high enough readiness rating too.But even so I just didn't like the whole Catalyst being a god controlling the Reapers thing. It was almost out of nowhere. And these games have always had a positive outlook on humans and synthetics working together, I mean s*, they even have a human and an AI hook up in this game. Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together? What? Stop contradicting everything I've come to know god dammit. -- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family.http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 03/11/12 11:50:00 AM #429:	I like the synthesis end because even the plants are hybrids. Gotta take refuge in absurdity when there's nothing else. -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877033] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I like the synthesis end because even the plants are hybrids. Gotta take refuge in absurdity when there's nothing else. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 11:51:00 AM #430:	I took the Catalyst to be an AI created by the first people, the ones that made the first Reaper. He's not a god, just something created by organics to ensure that the Galaxy doesn't go extinct because of a technological singularity. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877034] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I took the Catalyst to be an AI created by the first people, the ones that made the first Reaper. He's not a god, just something created by organics to ensure that the Galaxy doesn't go extinct because of a technological singularity. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:51:00 AM #431:	From: ShadowHalo17 \| #428 Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together? Well, that was the reason for the cycle from the Catalyst's point of view, for which Shepard wants an opportunity to prove wrong. Of course, the game doesn't give you that opportunity, but that's another story. -- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877035] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: ShadowHalo17 \| #428Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together?Well, that was the reason for the cycle from the Catalyst's point of view, for which Shepard wants an opportunity to prove wrong.Of course, the game doesn't give you that opportunity, but that's another story. -- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 11:52:00 AM #432:	From: GranzonEx \| #431 I took the Catalyst to be an AI created by the first people, the ones that made the first Reaper. He's not a god, just something created by organics to ensure that the Galaxy doesn't go extinct because of a technological singularity. The game doesn't really point to that though. The Catalyst seems to be in control of the Reapers rather than a failsafe against complete annihilation. -- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877036] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: GranzonEx \| #431I took the Catalyst to be an AI created by the first people, the ones that made the first Reaper. He's not a god, just something created by organics to ensure that the Galaxy doesn't go extinct because of a technological singularity.The game doesn't really point to that though. The Catalyst seems to be in control of the Reapers rather than a failsafe against complete annihilation. -- Guess who I am!http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 11:53:00 AM #433:	Would have loved it if the Citidel was the source of the Reapers' conscience and Shepard blew it up at the final scene and he dies in the explosion plunging into Earth. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877037] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Would have loved it if the Citidel was the source of the Reapers' conscience and Shepard blew it up at the final scene and he dies in the explosion plunging into Earth. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/11/12 11:56:00 AM #434:	From: ShadowHalo17 \| #428 Only if you have a high enough readiness rating too. But even so I just didn't like the whole Catalyst being a god controlling the Reapers thing. It was almost out of nowhere. And these games have always had a positive outlook on humans and synthetics working together, I mean s**, they even have a human and an AI hook up in this game. Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together? What? Stop contradicting everything I've come to know god dammit. Not only that, but he's this magic god of Reapers. He gives you these three options, but can't he just, you know, turn them off? And not only that, but I'm supposed to believe that the purpose of the Crucible wasn't a weapon, but a machine to wake up the magic god that lives inside the Citadel (or to take him literally - IS the Citadel)? Where does something like that even come from? What scientists discovered this crap? augh Of the three endings, I also like Synthesis the best (not to say it's good. Only because Control admits that the Illusive Man was right, and screw that. And Destroy means that you kill EDI and the geth, rendering Legion's sacrifice irrelevant (just like all the other choices in the game lololol). -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:877038] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: ShadowHalo17 \| #428Only if you have a high enough readiness rating too.But even so I just didn't like the whole Catalyst being a god controlling the Reapers thing. It was almost out of nowhere. And these games have always had a positive outlook on humans and synthetics working together, I mean s**, they even have a human and an AI hook up in this game. Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together? What? Stop contradicting everything I've come to know god dammit.Not only that, but he's this magic god of Reapers. He gives you these three options, but can't he just, you know, turn them off? And not only that, but I'm supposed to believe that the purpose of the Crucible wasn't a weapon, but a machine to wake up the magic god that lives inside the Citadel (or to take him literally - IS the Citadel)? Where does something like that even come from? What scientists discovered this crap? aughOf the three endings, I also like Synthesis the best (not to say it's good. Only because Control admits that the Illusive Man was right, and screw that. And Destroy means that you kill EDI and the geth, rendering Legion's sacrifice irrelevant (just like all the other choices in the game lololol). -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/11/12 11:56:00 AM #435:	It's dumb. This whole time it's been about getting rid of the Reaper threat once and for all so that the universe could continue to make its own choices and decisions. I wanted a big speech from Shepard about how it shouldn't be up to them, organics will survive on their own and deal with their own consequences and such. Another thing I'm mad about is the final battle. It was just a fight against a ton of enemies instead of having a showdown with Harbinger. That's what we were all waiting for. -- ~Halo Now you learn the mistake of challenging me. http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2734/hieis.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:877039] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> It's dumb. This whole time it's been about getting rid of the Reaper threat once and for all so that the universe could continue to make its own choices and decisions. I wanted a big speech from Shepard about how it shouldn't be up to them, organics will survive on their own and deal with their own consequences and such.Another thing I'm mad about is the final battle. It was just a fight against a ton of enemies instead of having a showdown with Harbinger. That's what we were all waiting for. -- ~Halo Now you learn the mistake of challenging me.http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2734/hieis.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 11:59:00 AM #436:	From: LeonhartFour \| #432 The game doesn't really point to that though. The Catalyst seems to be in control of the Reapers rather than a failsafe against complete annihilation. I think of him as the leader of the Reapers. He's part of the cycle, he doesn't really control them in the sense that he directed the Reapers to Earth etc, he in essence was a Reaper. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877040] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #432The game doesn't really point to that though. The Catalyst seems to be in control of the Reapers rather than a failsafe against complete annihilation.I think of him as the leader of the Reapers. He's part of the cycle, he doesn't really control them in the sense that he directed the Reapers to Earth etc, he in essence was a Reaper. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/11/12 11:59:00 AM #437:	From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #434 Of the three endings, I also like Synthesis the best (not to say it's good. Only because Control admits that the Illusive Man was right, and screw that. And Destroy means that you kill EDI and the geth, rendering Legion's sacrifice irrelevant (just like all the other choices in the game lololol). I only chose Synthesis because it was the shortest walk. -- ~Halo Everybody run! http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6195/furriese.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:877041] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #434Of the three endings, I also like Synthesis the best (not to say it's good. Only because Control admits that the Illusive Man was right, and screw that. And Destroy means that you kill EDI and the geth, rendering Legion's sacrifice irrelevant (just like all the other choices in the game lololol).I only chose Synthesis because it was the shortest walk. -- ~Halo Everybody run!http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6195/furriese.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 03/11/12 12:00:00 PM #438:	From: ShadowHalo17 \| #437 I only chose Synthesis because it was the shortest walk. A true American right here. -- Captain Tracy Mombaro and Agent Mirasuke Inhara: Two of the toughest, hottest furrs you'll ever meet. <cite>Inviso posted [p:877042] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: ShadowHalo17 \| #437I only chose Synthesis because it was the shortest walk.A true American right here. -- Captain Tracy Mombaro and Agent Mirasuke Inhara: Two of the toughest, hottest furrs you'll ever meet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 12:00:00 PM #439:	I'm mad we didn't fight Harbinger, or get a new Reaper overlord called Salvation or something to that effect! The codex did say Harbinger was the largest and oldest of the Reapers. -- caps <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877043] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> I'm mad we didn't fight Harbinger, or get a new Reaper overlord called Salvation or something to that effect!The codex did say Harbinger was the largest and oldest of the Reapers. -- caps </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/11/12 12:02:00 PM #440:	From: Inviso \| #438 A true American right here. Well Shep was already moving so slow and all of the options were stupid as f* so I was just like "whatever" and chose whatever was in front of me. I didn't even know it was actually Synthesis at the moment. -- ~Halo Now you learn the mistake of challenging me. http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2734/hieis.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:877044] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: Inviso \| #438A true American right here.Well Shep was already moving so slow and all of the options were stupid as f* so I was just like "whatever" and chose whatever was in front of me. I didn't even know it was actually Synthesis at the moment. -- ~Halo Now you learn the mistake of challenging me.http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2734/hieis.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/11/12 12:03:00 PM #441:	From: ShadowHalo17 \| #437 I only chose Synthesis because it was the shortest walk. I chose it because it seemed like it was the least bad option, by a slight margin. Destroy would be unequivocally the best, if not for the fact that it would kill the Geth and EDI, IMO. Honestly, I feel like you could make an argument for Control as it is, but that it was TIM's goal the entire time just kind of... makes it feel wrong. Synthesis has its own problems, IMO, but eh... They seem to be slightly less than the others, again, except for perhaps Control. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX <cite>xp1337 posted [p:877045] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: ShadowHalo17 \| #437I only chose Synthesis because it was the shortest walk.I chose it because it seemed like it was the least bad option, by a slight margin.Destroy would be unequivocally the best, if not for the fact that it would kill the Geth and EDI, IMO.Honestly, I feel like you could make an argument for Control as it is, but that it was TIM's goal the entire time just kind of... makes it feel wrong.Synthesis has its own problems, IMO, but eh... They seem to be slightly less than the others, again, except for perhaps Control. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/11/12 12:06:00 PM #442:	In my mind, it turns out that the Crucible was actually a way to turn the Citadel into a giant fighting robot, and the final boss fight is you wrestling Harbinger on Earth, which destroys most of it but looks super cool. Then you fly through the galaxy and pierce the reapers with your drill. Because why the hell not, they're already basically the anti-spirals. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:877046] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> In my mind, it turns out that the Crucible was actually a way to turn the Citadel into a giant fighting robot, and the final boss fight is you wrestling Harbinger on Earth, which destroys most of it but looks super cool. Then you fly through the galaxy and pierce the reapers with your drill. Because why the hell not, they're already basically the anti-spirals. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/11/12 12:09:00 PM #443:	From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #442 In my mind, it turns out that the Crucible was actually a way to turn the Citadel into a giant fighting robot, and the final boss fight is you wrestling Harbinger on Earth, which destroys most of it but looks super cool. Then you fly through the galaxy and pierce the reapers with your drill. Because why the hell not, they're already basically the anti-spirals. That immediately came to mind when I saw the Catalyst in child form. The Bioware crew must have watched TTGL before they finished ME3. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:877047] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #442In my mind, it turns out that the Crucible was actually a way to turn the Citadel into a giant fighting robot, and the final boss fight is you wrestling Harbinger on Earth, which destroys most of it but looks super cool. Then you fly through the galaxy and pierce the reapers with your drill. Because why the hell not, they're already basically the anti-spirals.That immediately came to mind when I saw the Catalyst in child form. The Bioware crew must have watched TTGL before they finished ME3. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RayDyn 03/11/12 4:00:00 PM #444:	Since I didn't feel like playing the end again to see the other endings, I watched them on youtube and saw this comment... "Yo dawg, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics". Pretty well sums up the situation. -- Raka's drawing based on my username... http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/Ray.png <cite>RayDyn posted [p:877048] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Since I didn't feel like playing the end again to see the other endings, I watched them on youtube and saw this comment..."Yo dawg, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".Pretty well sums up the situation. -- Raka's drawing based on my username...http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/Ray.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeteorExF 03/11/12 4:01:00 PM #445:	This is awesome. -- If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. - Zapp Brannigan <cite>MeteorExF posted [p:877049] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> This is awesome. -- If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. - Zapp Brannigan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 5:05:00 PM #446:	From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #434 but a machine to wake up the magic god that lives inside the Citadel (or to take him literally - IS the Citadel) No, he doesn't say that. Shepard asks him if he is the Citadel, and he says that's inaccurate. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877050] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: HeroDelTiempo17 \| #434but a machine to wake up the magic god that lives inside the Citadel (or to take him literally - IS the Citadel)No, he doesn't say that. Shepard asks him if he is the Citadel, and he says that's inaccurate. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please.""Not until the end. Always." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 5:12:00 PM #447:	-- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877051] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> -- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 03/11/12 5:15:00 PM #448:	Blue explosions! Blue explosions! -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:877052] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Blue explosions! Blue explosions! -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/11/12 5:41:00 PM #449:	From: LeonhartFour \| #446 No, he doesn't say that. Shepard asks him if he is the Citadel, and he says that's inaccurate. Well, he does say that the Citadel is part of him, which I guess is a subtle distinction. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:877053] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #446No, he doesn't say that. Shepard asks him if he is the Citadel, and he says that's inaccurate.Well, he does say that the Citadel is part of him, which I guess is a subtle distinction. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/11/12 7:42:00 PM #450:	Well, I don't claim to understand what happened there at the end, but I got the impression that he existed before the Citadel, and he could exist without it, although he wouldn't be as powerful or something, I dunno. It'd be nice if we could get some sort of explanation of what happened there. -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:877054] in Leonhart P... [t:62159187]...</cite> <quote> Well, I don't claim to understand what happened there at the end, but I got the impression that he existed before the Citadel, and he could exist without it, although he wouldn't be as powerful or something, I dunno. It'd be nice if we could get some sort of explanation of what happened there. -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gifhttp://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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