Board 8 > Okay so huh, I'm planning to read the Bible, but there's more than one version..

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WazzupGenius00 02/13/12 2:16:00 PM #51:	well there are websites that have the entire Bible in multiple translations, like http://biblegateway.com -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] If you can't slam with the best, then jam with the rest. <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:783620] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> well there are websites that have the entire Bible in multiple translations, like http://biblegateway.com -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]If you can't slam with the best, then jam with the rest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whatisurnameplz 02/13/12 2:19:00 PM #52:	King James Bible and even the Tanakh are missing a few books in the Old Testament. If you want to see absolutely everything possible from the Old Testament, you'll need to get a Catholic Bible. That has a few books that were originally written in Greek and weren't put into the Tanakh or the Protestant Bibles, which use the Hebrew translations of the Old Testament. New American is the most well-known Catholic Bible. You could also just use New American for the extra books and King James/Tanakh for the rest. edit: usccb.org also has the entire Catholic Bible -- SuperNiceDog has won. <cite>whatisurnameplz posted [p:783621] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> King James Bible and even the Tanakh are missing a few books in the Old Testament. If you want to see absolutely everything possible from the Old Testament, you'll need to get a Catholic Bible. That has a few books that were originally written in Greek and weren't put into the Tanakh or the Protestant Bibles, which use the Hebrew translations of the Old Testament. New American is the most well-known Catholic Bible. You could also just use New American for the extra books and King James/Tanakh for the rest.edit: usccb.org also has the entire Catholic Bible -- SuperNiceDog has won. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/13/12 2:20:00 PM #53:	From: Ayuyu \| #047 Oh and is the Tanakh the same as the Old Testament from beginning to end? There are more books in the Tanakh than the OT. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:783622] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: Ayuyu \| #047Oh and is the Tanakh the same as the Old Testament from beginning to end?There are more books in the Tanakh than the OT. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 02/13/12 2:32:00 PM #54:	From: Dauntless Hunter \| #049 Dante's Divine Comedy, or at least Inferno, are pretty important. They're not canonical but they shaped the common Christian view of the afterlife more strongly than anything in the Bible. THIS THIS THIS. The Divine Comedy is so imaginative and awesome, you should definitely check it out. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:783623] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: Dauntless Hunter \| #049Dante's Divine Comedy, or at least Inferno, are pretty important. They're not canonical but they shaped the common Christian view of the afterlife more strongly than anything in the Bible.THIS THIS THIS.The Divine Comedy is so imaginative and awesome, you should definitely check it out. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/13/12 2:50:00 PM #55:	While I do think the Divine Comedy is a great read, I wouldn't say that the common Christian beliefs these days are strongly based on its view of the afterlife. Though if we are talking about religious fiction than Paradise Lost by John Milton would be worth checking out as well. In fact, since you are focused on Genesis I would really recommend it. It's an interesting view of it. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:783624] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> While I do think the Divine Comedy is a great read, I wouldn't say that the common Christian beliefs these days are strongly based on its view of the afterlife.Though if we are talking about religious fiction than Paradise Lost by John Milton would be worth checking out as well. In fact, since you are focused on Genesis I would really recommend it. It's an interesting view of it. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/13/12 2:53:00 PM #56:	From: whatisurnameplz \| #052 King James Bible and even the Tanakh are missing a few books in the Old Testament. If you want to see absolutely everything possible from the Old Testament, you'll need to get a Catholic Bible. That has a few books that were originally written in Greek and weren't put into the Tanakh or the Protestant Bibles, which use the Hebrew translations of the Old Testament. New American is the most well-known Catholic Bible. You could also just use New American for the extra books and King James/Tanakh for the rest. edit: usccb.org also has the entire Catholic Bible I'll check this website out after I'm done with the Takakh. 1624 pages, might take a while. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:783625] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: whatisurnameplz \| #052King James Bible and even the Tanakh are missing a few books in the Old Testament. If you want to see absolutely everything possible from the Old Testament, you'll need to get a Catholic Bible. That has a few books that were originally written in Greek and weren't put into the Tanakh or the Protestant Bibles, which use the Hebrew translations of the Old Testament. New American is the most well-known Catholic Bible. You could also just use New American for the extra books and King James/Tanakh for the rest.edit: usccb.org also has the entire Catholic BibleI'll check this website out after I'm done with the Takakh.1624 pages, might take a while. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/13/12 5:59:00 PM #57:	Dat book marker was in the book, pretty interesting : -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:783626] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Dat book marker was in the book, pretty interesting : -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsClausRPG 02/13/12 6:38:00 PM #58:	From: Ayuyu \| #010 I've got a scenario for a story which is heavily based on christianity so huh, I want to know my **. If it's heavily based on Christianity, why are you more interested in the Old Testament? The Old Testament wasn't even supposed to be a part of Christianity -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D <cite>MrsClausRPG posted [p:783627] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: Ayuyu \| #010I've got a scenario for a story which is heavily based on christianity so huh, I want to know my **.If it's heavily based on Christianity, why are you more interested in the Old Testament? The Old Testament wasn't even supposed to be a part of Christianity -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/13/12 6:43:00 PM #59:	From: MrsClausRPG \| #058 If it's heavily based on Christianity, why are you more interested in the Old Testament? The Old Testament wasn't even supposed to be a part of Christianity I'll read the new one after! The most important things for my story are in the Book of Genesis, but the other minor aspects are Christian (Seven princes of hell and other things). -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:783628] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: MrsClausRPG \| #058If it's heavily based on Christianity, why are you more interested in the Old Testament? The Old Testament wasn't even supposed to be a part of ChristianityI'll read the new one after! The most important things for my story are in the Book of Genesis, but the other minor aspects are Christian (Seven princes of hell and other things). -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsClausRPG 02/13/12 6:46:00 PM #60:	From: Ayuyu \| #059 I'll read the new one after! The most important things for my story are in the Book of Genesis, but the other minor aspects are Christian (Seven princes of hell and other things). Ah that makes sense. Genesis is a fun read -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D <cite>MrsClausRPG posted [p:783629] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: Ayuyu \| #059I'll read the new one after! The most important things for my story are in the Book of Genesis, but the other minor aspects are Christian (Seven princes of hell and other things).Ah that makes sense. Genesis is a fun read -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 02/13/12 6:47:00 PM #61:	If youre interested in Genesis there are some Apocrypha you may be interested in, such as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_of_Adam_and_Eve -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:783630] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> If youre interested in Genesis there are some Apocrypha you may be interested in, such as this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_of_Adam_and_Eve -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tee316 02/13/12 8:07:00 PM #62:	Only Apocrypha that matters is The Book Of Enoch. <cite>tee316 posted [p:783631] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Only Apocrypha that matters is The Book Of Enoch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/13/12 8:32:00 PM #63:	Of course the Old Testament is part of Christianity. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783632] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Of course the Old Testament is part of Christianity. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsClausRPG 02/13/12 9:41:00 PM #64:	From: red sox 777 \| #063 Of course the Old Testament is part of Christianity. The Old Testament was the doctrine of Judaism, which was the religion pretty much everyone at the time, and the reason people opposed Jesus.. Jesus came along and was like "Hey let's live by this new way!" and thus the gospel of Christ was written. Look at the radical differences between the two books, Old is like "GOD IS WRATHFUL, FEAR HIM." and new is all "GOD IS LOVING, HE LOVES ALL OF US :)" And for some reason a few people composing the bible decided it would be good to throw them both in together, but many people opposed it since the Old Testament was not actually a part of their belief system. Not that I'd expect modern Christianity to acknowledge any of that. -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D <cite>MrsClausRPG posted [p:783633] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: red sox 777 \| #063Of course the Old Testament is part of Christianity.The Old Testament was the doctrine of Judaism, which was the religion pretty much everyone at the time, and the reason people opposed Jesus.. Jesus came along and was like "Hey let's live by this new way!" and thus the gospel of Christ was written. Look at the radical differences between the two books, Old is like "GOD IS WRATHFUL, FEAR HIM." and new is all "GOD IS LOVING, HE LOVES ALL OF US :)" And for some reason a few people composing the bible decided it would be good to throw them both in together, but many people opposed it since the Old Testament was not actually a part of their belief system.Not that I'd expect modern Christianity to acknowledge any of that. -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/13/12 9:50:00 PM #65:	Except, you know, that Jesus explicitly said that it would be easier for Heaven and Earth to vanish than for the least part of the OT to become non-canon. Christianity is an extension, a continuation, of Judaism. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783634] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Except, you know, that Jesus explicitly said that it would be easier for Heaven and Earth to vanish than for the least part of the OT to become non-canon. Christianity is an extension, a continuation, of Judaism. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsClausRPG 02/13/12 10:00:00 PM #66:	That explains God's sudden change in attitude and the huge differences in doctrine between the two books. -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D <cite>MrsClausRPG posted [p:783635] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> That explains God's sudden change in attitude and the huge differences in doctrine between the two books. -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/13/12 10:04:00 PM #67:	What changes? Actually, I don't really want to waste time discussing that with you. But suffice it to say that early Christians saw their faith as a direct continuation of Judaism, and that has always been the main position in Christianity. If you actually read the NT, you'll see that it frequently quotes the OT, and it always treats it as the word of God. If the OT is not canon, the NT literally does not make sense. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783636] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> What changes?Actually, I don't really want to waste time discussing that with you. But suffice it to say that early Christians saw their faith as a direct continuation of Judaism, and that has always been the main position in Christianity. If you actually read the NT, you'll see that it frequently quotes the OT, and it always treats it as the word of God. If the OT is not canon, the NT literally does not make sense. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsClausRPG 02/13/12 10:11:00 PM #68:	Calling it a continuation of Judaism is a bit ignorant. Jesus basically told the Jews they had their perspective on God wrong and wanted to teach them a new way of seeing it. I'm not at all saying Jesus was a bad person, but the Jews saw this as a major threat to their religion, which it was... Jesus wasn't about "continuing" Judaism, he brought about a new theology based on love and forgiveness and everything... While in the OT people's attitude about God is that they should be "god-fearing" and he was always sending his angels down to smite people. When the Canon was being assembled many people opposed the OT from even being in it. -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D <cite>MrsClausRPG posted [p:783637] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Calling it a continuation of Judaism is a bit ignorant. Jesus basically told the Jews they had their perspective on God wrong and wanted to teach them a new way of seeing it. I'm not at all saying Jesus was a bad person, but the Jews saw this as a major threat to their religion, which it was... Jesus wasn't about "continuing" Judaism, he brought about a new theology based on love and forgiveness and everything... While in the OT people's attitude about God is that they should be "god-fearing" and he was always sending his angels down to smite people. When the Canon was being assembled many people opposed the OT from even being in it. -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/13/12 10:20:00 PM #69:	Calling it a continuation of Judaism is a bit ignorant. Jesus basically told the Jews they had their perspective on God wrong and wanted to teach them a new way of seeing it. I'm not at all saying Jesus was a bad person, but the Jews saw this as a major threat to their religion, which it was... Jesus wasn't about "continuing" Judaism, he brought about a new theology based on love and forgiveness and everything... While in the OT people's attitude about God is that they should be "god-fearing" and he was always sending his angels down to smite people. When the Canon was being assembled many people opposed the OT from even being in it. Jesus claimed that his way was the only true Judaism. Of course it's not possible for both to be right, but both claim to be right, and both claim the Old Testament as their scriptures. And on the contrary, the OT canon was already well-established at the time of Jesus. They all agreed on it, at least that the 39 books in the current Protestant OT are canon. There were some minor disputes about a few additional books (the Apocrypha), but no one challenged the canon status of the 39 books in the established OT. The disputes that took place when the Christian canon was assembled centered on which texts to include in the New Testament. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783638] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Calling it a continuation of Judaism is a bit ignorant. Jesus basically told the Jews they had their perspective on God wrong and wanted to teach them a new way of seeing it. I'm not at all saying Jesus was a bad person, but the Jews saw this as a major threat to their religion, which it was... Jesus wasn't about "continuing" Judaism, he brought about a new theology based on love and forgiveness and everything... While in the OT people's attitude about God is that they should be "god-fearing" and he was always sending his angels down to smite people. When the Canon was being assembled many people opposed the OT from even being in it.Jesus claimed that his way was the only true Judaism. Of course it's not possible for both to be right, but both claim to be right, and both claim the Old Testament as their scriptures.And on the contrary, the OT canon was already well-established at the time of Jesus. They all agreed on it, at least that the 39 books in the current Protestant OT are canon. There were some minor disputes about a few additional books (the Apocrypha), but no one challenged the canon status of the 39 books in the established OT. The disputes that took place when the Christian canon was assembled centered on which texts to include in the New Testament. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/13/12 10:28:00 PM #70:	And if you don't think Jesus wanted to continue Judaism, I suggest you read the New Testament, because it appears that you never have. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783639] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> And if you don't think Jesus wanted to continue Judaism, I suggest you read the New Testament, because it appears that you never have. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsClausRPG 02/13/12 10:37:00 PM #71:	I never said Jesus didn't, but he DID want to change everyone's way of thinking, which didn't go over so well. And trust me I grew up in a VERY religious family, I've had to read the bible many times. My point is just that the OT was the Jew's book and they wanted to keep it that way, and yes, there were some Christians who wanted to leave it behind completely... so it's really not as huge of a book in today's Christianity as it was supposed to be, I guess. (I mean whenever I get handed mini-bibles, its always only the NT, which sucks because I want a little version of the OT haha) -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D <cite>MrsClausRPG posted [p:783640] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> I never said Jesus didn't, but he DID want to change everyone's way of thinking, which didn't go over so well. And trust me I grew up in a VERY religious family, I've had to read the bible many times. My point is just that the OT was the Jew's book and they wanted to keep it that way, and yes, there were some Christians who wanted to leave it behind completely... so it's really not as huge of a book in today's Christianity as it was supposed to be, I guess. (I mean whenever I get handed mini-bibles, its always only the NT, which sucks because I want a little version of the OT haha) -- beeeeeeeeessssssss :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/13/12 10:43:00 PM #72:	The OT is God's book, as is the NT. No group of religious people has an exclusive right to it. Modern Jews and Christians both claim the OT as their own, just as Jews who decided to follow Jesus and Jews who decided not to in those times both claimed the scriptures as their own. I suspect the reason why pocket New Testaments exist is that it is a lot shorter. And it covers what you need to know for Christianity, while the OT by itself does not. I think the Old Testament takes up around 75% or more of the total space in the Bible. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783641] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> The OT is God's book, as is the NT. No group of religious people has an exclusive right to it. Modern Jews and Christians both claim the OT as their own, just as Jews who decided to follow Jesus and Jews who decided not to in those times both claimed the scriptures as their own.I suspect the reason why pocket New Testaments exist is that it is a lot shorter. And it covers what you need to know for Christianity, while the OT by itself does not. I think the Old Testament takes up around 75% or more of the total space in the Bible. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tee316 02/13/12 10:50:00 PM #73:	Plus a lot of those pocket/mini bibles do include Psalms and Proverbs, two OT books. <cite>tee316 posted [p:783642] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Plus a lot of those pocket/mini bibles do include Psalms and Proverbs, two OT books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/15/12 7:33:00 PM #74:	I'm not really far in (Genesis 20) but it's pretty awesome so far. Incest and stuff. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:783643] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> I'm not really far in (Genesis 20) but it's pretty awesome so far.Incest and stuff. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/15/12 11:01:00 PM #75:	Genesis is the best. It's very different from you would expect, because the message is NOT that God will reward good people and punish evil people. It's more like, God is free to reward whomever he chooses. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783644] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Genesis is the best. It's very different from you would expect, because the message is NOT that God will reward good people and punish evil people. It's more like, God is free to reward whomever he chooses. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/15/12 11:04:00 PM #76:	Also, Genesis 22 is shiver-inducing amazing. Especially after you read Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling. It explores the difference between madness and faith, and Kierkegaard's conclusion is that there is no difference that could possibly be explained to another human. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783645] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Also, Genesis 22 is shiver-inducing amazing. Especially after you read Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling. It explores the difference between madness and faith, and Kierkegaard's conclusion is that there is no difference that could possibly be explained to another human. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/16/12 2:50:00 PM #77:	Genesis is the best. It's very different from you would expect, because the message is NOT that God will reward good people and punish evil people. It's more like, God is free to reward whomever he chooses. That's the message of a lot of the bible. Then you get something like Job where the message is "good people suffer". The Kings are still my favorite OT books. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:783646] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Genesis is the best. It's very different from you would expect, because the message is NOT that God will reward good people and punish evil people. It's more like, God is free to reward whomever he chooses.That's the message of a lot of the bible. Then you get something like Job where the message is "good people suffer".The Kings are still my favorite OT books. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 02/16/12 2:54:00 PM #78:	*red sox 777 posted...* Genesis is the best. It's very different from you would expect, because the message is NOT that God will reward good people and punish evil people. It's more like, God is free to reward whomever he chooses. So what are we supposed to take from this message? -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:783647] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> red sox 777 posted...Genesis is the best. It's very different from you would expect, because the message is NOT that God will reward good people and punish evil people. It's more like, God is free to reward whomever he chooses.So what are we supposed to take from this message? -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fortybelowsummer 02/16/12 3:06:00 PM #79:	Yeah I'm attempting to read the Bible, but making really slow progress. It's a pretty daunting task. -- Well played, SuperNiceDog. Well played. http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TEBOW-ENRAPTURED.gif <cite>fortybelowsummer posted [p:783648] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I'm attempting to read the Bible, but making really slow progress. It's a pretty daunting task. -- Well played, SuperNiceDog. Well played. http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TEBOW-ENRAPTURED.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/16/12 3:09:00 PM #80:	From: redrocket \| #078 So what are we supposed to take from this message? That God doesn't just reward people for being good and punish for being bad. At least not pre-death. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:783649] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> From: redrocket \| #078So what are we supposed to take from this message?That God doesn't just reward people for being good and punish for being bad. At least not pre-death. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/16/12 5:03:00 PM #81:	So what are we supposed to take from this message? That God is free and sovereign. That he is not an automaton. That there is a big difference between following God and merely doing right. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783650] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> So what are we supposed to take from this message?That God is free and sovereign. That he is not an automaton. That there is a big difference between following God and merely doing right. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/16/12 7:41:00 PM #82:	That too. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:783651] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> That too. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/16/12 8:17:00 PM #83:	A bunch of drunk people are enjoying the wisdom of the LORD. I think we should make people drunk before trying to convert them. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:783652] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> A bunch of drunk people are enjoying the wisdom of the LORD.I think we should make people drunk before trying to convert them. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/16/12 9:41:00 PM #84:	Well, there is a story, don't know if it is real or not, about the Khan of the Bulgars who decided to convert from paganism to a monotheistic religion. So he invited religious experts from the Christians and Muslims to tell him about their faith so he could choose between them. In the end it came down to whether he had to give up drinking alcohol (to follow Islam) or give up his extensive harem (to follow Christianity). -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:783653] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> Well, there is a story, don't know if it is real or not, about the Khan of the Bulgars who decided to convert from paganism to a monotheistic religion. So he invited religious experts from the Christians and Muslims to tell him about their faith so he could choose between them. In the end it came down to whether he had to give up drinking alcohol (to follow Islam) or give up his extensive harem (to follow Christianity). -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 02/16/12 9:42:00 PM #85:	So... he became a mormon? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:783654] in Okay so hu... [t:61929541]...</cite> <quote> So... he became a mormon? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Okay so huh, I'm planning to read the Bible, but there's more than one version.. (+) Yeah! (+)

Board 8 > Okay so huh, I'm planning to read the Bible, but there's more than one version..