If somehow this doesn't pass I will forever lose hope in government.
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this won't affect anything, leeches already launder their handout money around to buy alcohol, tobacco, and illegal drugs as it is, there's really nothing you can do to stop it
"This legislation stops waste, fraud, and abuse within the welfare program,"
No it doesn't. Classic example of ignoring the actual source of the problem to try to fix a symptom, and then being confused when the problem persists.
From: SAWURFACEANDWOW | #005 I'd much rather my tax money go to some dude gettin to see t*** than stuff like bailouts
also this
-- _foolmo_ 'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28
welfare is not something that people can just stay on for eternity being lazy
I've known quite a few people who've basically done this
and I don't see why it's unreasonable to only pay for basic necessities, we're trying to make sure people don't die for being unemployed, nothing bad is going to happen to you if you don't have enough money to get a lap dance and there's no reason productive people should have to pay for that
From: SAWURFACEANDWOW | #008 Thanks for coming out plum, we are done here.
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What?
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Considering how much a person gets from welfare, if they have enough of it left over to spend on vices then they very likely have enough cash coming in from other sources to just use that instead. And if they don't, they likely have friends that will trade cash for the benefits. This will fix absolutely zero. In fact, it'll make it more difficult to track when people are abusing the system, so it'll be even harder to fix the problem.
If this somehow passes I will forever lose hope in government, because they are obviously too stupid to realize when they are wasting time and too callous to actually deal with the real problems we have in this country.
masterplum posted... From: SAWURFACEANDWOW | #008 Thanks for coming out plum, we are done here. ...
What?
Thanks: We are showing you appreciation For: The following phrase is going to be what we are showing appreciation to you about Coming Out: For making this topic, linking to this article, just showing up to Gamefaqs man Plum: Yourself We Are Done Here: We (myself, cyclo, foolomo) ended the debate. We settled the issue. We owned it. It's our now. So you aren't really needed in this topic anymore.
Liquid Wind posted... welfare is not something that people can just stay on for eternity being lazy
I've known quite a few people who've basically done this
and I don't see why it's unreasonable to only pay for basic necessities, we're trying to make sure people don't die for being unemployed, nothing bad is going to happen to you if you don't have enough money to get a lap dance and there's no reason productive people should have to pay for that
Hypothetical situation - the person on welfare is a salesman and his clients expect certain services before they will make a buy. Is said salesman not hurt by his inability to please his sleazeball customer? Just playing the devil's advocate here, but we really don't (and can't) know the situation of every individual receiving government assistance.
YES! This is the most important thing we need to pass right now!
Please. Furthermore no matter how you look at it, welfare is necessary to our economic structure. If you got rid of welfare (or even if you severely limit what it can do), you will see theft, murder, and rape crime rates go up. No president would get re-elected when the opposing candidate could say, "during your presidency we have become <insert stats here> less safe".
We'd probably hire more police officers to try and keep the rates as low as they are right now, but all we'd see is more speed traps and more people get caught after the crime had already taken place.
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The real problem we have in this country is smart asses who go on about how the government isn't addressing the real problems in this country but can't actually define the problems that need fixing.
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Biolizard28 posted... The real problem we have in this country is smart asses who go on about how the government isn't addressing the real problems in this country but can't actually define the problems that need fixing.