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mcflubbin
01/08/12 5:18:00 PM
#1:


I know absolutely nothing about Final Fantasy, but I've recently obtained some PSN money, so I want to try some out. The ones available on PSN are V through IX, as well as Tactics. I was thinking about buying one or two, so which ones do you guys think are the best/most accessable to new players?


Also, I remember hearing good things about a bunch of other PS1 classics that I've missed that are available on PSN, like Klonoa, Suikoden, and Parasite Eve. Should I maybe get one of those instead?

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GintokiSaotome
01/08/12 5:19:00 PM
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6 and 7. or if you prefer 3d, then 7 and 9.

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shadosneko
01/08/12 5:20:00 PM
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People will say get either 7 or 9.

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JaKyL25
01/08/12 5:22:00 PM
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6 is my favorite, but I cannot recommend the PS1/PSN version of it.

7 is probably the most noob-friendly.

In fact I'm sure it is.

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JaKyL25
01/08/12 5:24:00 PM
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As far as those other games, I highly recommend Suikoden, but I don't know anything about the others.

It's a very simplistic RPG but it's very fun and enjoyable the whole way.

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SBell0105
01/08/12 5:25:00 PM
#6:


Tactics!

OR forget Final Fantasy all together.

Wild Arms 1 or 2 is the way to go.

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OmarsComin
01/08/12 5:28:00 PM
#7:


Best: Tactics and 9
Most accessible: 7 and 9

they're all pretty accessible though, except maybe Tactics has a learning curve
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OmarsComin
01/08/12 5:28:00 PM
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did Suikoden II ever make it to PSN?
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JaKyL25
01/08/12 5:30:00 PM
#9:


Not yet.

9 is pretty accessible but I wouldn't recommend it first, considering that it has tons of fanservice for long-time fans of the series. You'll enjoy it more if you've played the classics!

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Liquid Wind
01/08/12 5:31:00 PM
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FFVI-X and tactics are the must plays, everything after that is terrible. if I really had to pick two it would be FFVI and VII, the most accessible/mainstream popular of them. FFVIII and IX are also great but VIII is a polarizing game that has some things a lot of people hate, and an unusual system that is really different than the other games and some would say convoluted.
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Strife2
01/08/12 5:33:00 PM
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VII and IX are great. VIII is brought down by the worst romance plot in gaming history. Suffice it to say, Squall has Mario and Link beat in the "whipped" category...I've never seen someone go so for something so stupid as a love interest he didn't care about, until the game says he did.

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Ness26
01/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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Tactics is nothing like the rest of the series, but it's a really good SRPG. My personal favorite game of all time.

VI is a pretty standard JRPG. VII feels dated to me but is a perfectly fine game. VIII has some weird stuff and typically is love it or hate it. IX has lots of throwbacks to previous FF games, and is a good title aside from annoyingly slow combat.

I'd suggest playing VII and Tactics. FFX is also a really good choice.

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SHINE GET 64
01/08/12 5:35:00 PM
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6 best in the series although it's preferable to play it on SNES or GBA

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Strife2
01/08/12 5:38:00 PM
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FF5 and FF6 have really bad load times. The translation for Faris is a crock too. I'm playing 5 again, and I swear, Faris says, "D'arr" in every second sentence.

I wonder if pirates actually did that ****.

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OmarsComin
01/08/12 5:39:00 PM
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Oh yeah, PSN means you're getting the inferior ports of the Square SNES games.

So... that only affirms that you should pick 7 and 9! or Tactics.

or save some money for Suikoden II someday, it is the best.
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LowCalorieH2O
01/08/12 5:39:00 PM
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FFV and FFVI are best on the GBA

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Leebo86
01/08/12 5:41:00 PM
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FFT and FFIX

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Strife2
01/08/12 5:44:00 PM
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Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are definite classics too. Cross doesn't have quite the luster due to a massive character pool and weird magic system, but the music and ambience is extrordinary. Breath of Fire III and IV and Legend of Mana are old favorites too.

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Not_Wylvane
01/08/12 5:45:00 PM
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FF6 and FF7 are your best starting points, though I don't know if the lag and loading issues FF6 suffered on the PS1 still exist in the PSN version.

FF7 was many's first introduction to the FF series, and it's still treasured by most people who played it, so I'd recommend that. The graphics haven't aged well, but everything else is still pretty solid.

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Strife2
01/08/12 5:47:00 PM
#20:


The lag still occurs on FFV. It's a safe bet it still occurs on VI.

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mcflubbin
01/08/12 5:57:00 PM
#21:


Hmm, interesting. How watered down are the PSN ports?

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Safer Sephiroth 777
01/08/12 5:58:00 PM
#22:


Do you have DS or PSP?FF games there are better.

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OmarsComin
01/08/12 5:58:00 PM
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They're not watered down, they just have loading time or glitch issues. In one case they have a worse translation (FFV GBA is a lot better than FFV PSX). I don't remember what the FFIV PSX translation is like but I don't think it was bad.
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Strife2
01/08/12 6:32:00 PM
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I'll map out my feelings about each game from V to IX, so you can get a gauge of what they offer.

V

Last "difficult" FF game (most enemies kill you with ease, but they aren't insurmountable)
Last "classic" FF game (Warriors of Light, Crystals, Medieval setting, etc)
Customizable job system (same as the Dressphere system from X-2 that you may have heard of)
Decent characters (but limited development and lame villain kills them)
Hilarious recurring boss (Gilgamesh is the star of the show)

This is probably the best case if you'd like to experience the old-school games without the difficulty level of I-IV. Sadly, it can be unforgiving if you're not prepared. The characters and plot don't help either. Get it if the others interest you.

VI

First "modern" FF game
Tremendous character development (probably its best selling point)
Amazing Villain
Best music in the series (Don't take that lightly)

VI sets the bar to which every game in the series adheres to. Story, sound, music, character development; everything in this game is spectacular. It's also less challenging than its predecessor.

VII

Amazing Cinematics and Setting (brought down by AWFUL block models)
No "character classes" (Materia is a blank slate, and offers more flexibility, even compared to VI)
Tremendous "flow" (by that, I mean moving from point to point feels organic, dynamic, and seamless)
Deep storyline (convoluted is the right word, but not nearly as crazy as people make it out to be)
More "sci-fi" than VI (which felt more "steampunk")
Mature (This is the most mature FF game. Not just swearing, sex, etc...but the grimy, seedy, grown up asthetic adds to it)

I admit VI is the better game. That doesn't excuse VII from being the most "eventful" in the series. It has so much going for it that it is an experience; not just as a FF game, but as a cinematic achievement. It hasn't aged well, but the grown-up, ballsy asthetic shines bright. Given that a lot of games in the genre have subverted to "J-pop/Anime" or teenager cliches, VII stands stall as one of the truly "mature games" the genre has to offer. It took everything VI had and ramped it way up. Both VI and VII have to be played; no excuses.

VIII

Broken Gameplay (Abusable in every fashion)
Ages better than VII (graphics and sound especially)
Weak Romance (borderline goofy, nonsensical, illogical...any other word to describe absurd sums this up)
Villains feel ineffectual (moreso than Kefka or Sephiroth do)
Slower Pace (this story and setting definitely feels more like a chore to get through than VII does)

Still accessible, still fun, but good god, Disc 3 onwards is just awful. I don't want to spoil it. Just...take my word for it. If you hate romance, you will gouge out your eyes and pour acid in your ears.

IX

Callback to old-school FF
Character Classes Return
Harder than VI-VIII
Eccentric villain (has great style and execution, but he's seriously *** looking)
Dynamic main character (Cloud and Squall fit that "emo" image)
Romance subplot doesn't suck (not as abhorrent as VIII, not as effective as X)

IX is everything one would want in an old-school RPG in the modern era. It continued Square's ascent in quality (in every area). I don't think the game flows as well the modern FF styles, but is one of the best games you will find.

Start with VI or VII. Venture off to IX or V for a more classic approach. VIII is good, but that romance plot and growth system are grotesque.

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Liquid Wind
01/08/12 6:36:00 PM
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Ages better than VII (graphics and sound especially)

I find the lego characters of FFVII kind of charming, everyone in FFVIII just looks insanely distorted and their legs are three times longer than they should be
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LeonhartFour
01/08/12 6:38:00 PM
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From: JaKyL25 | #004
7 is probably the most noob-friendly.

In fact I'm sure it is.


FFIX was basically designed with noobs in mind.

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LeonhartFour
01/08/12 6:46:00 PM
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Nah, it does noob-friendly things like putting those exclamation points over Zidane's head whenever he finds something worth checking out and whatnot.

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LeonhartFour
01/08/12 6:46:00 PM
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And noob-friendly =/= easy, for the record

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Strife2
01/08/12 6:47:00 PM
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IX is more "classic gameplay without the difficulty" than "noob friendly." It's still harder than anything VII or VIII throws at you. It's because IX doesn't feature as many obvious broken gameplay elements. VIII lets you abuse it by the end of disc 1. What's also an issue is whether you want "classic" settings versus "modern" era. VII certain fits enough pseudo sci-fi to interest any geek. That and a ******* Road Rash style minigame.

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Liquid Wind
01/08/12 6:49:00 PM
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I didn't find FFIX harder in terms of dying or finding things or anything, but it does challenge your patience the most because of the slow load times, battle speed, and sometimes high encounter rates, there are some places where it takes what seems like an eternity to get across one room. really not the best introduction to the series IMO, good game but it's nice to play FFVI or VII first
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mnkboy907
01/08/12 6:51:00 PM
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Go with VI first, then IX.

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Strife2
01/08/12 6:56:00 PM
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IX does have charm. It's more light hearted than any game in the series (barring X-2). VII and VIII certainly profess to "why so serious" mentality. Zidane's antics provide the game's best moments.

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pyresword
01/08/12 6:59:00 PM
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Whatever you do don't get 8. The first 1-2 disks are pretty good, but overall its better if we just dont talk about that game >.>

If you want one that's most indicitive of the rest of the series then I'd say VII is your best bet. I personally found 7 rather boring though, as the first disk really drags at times. Of the ones listed I'd say 9 is my favorite because of the great story/character, but of course that's just my opinion. I've never played VI also, so I can't really say how good that is.

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OmarsComin
01/08/12 7:00:00 PM
#34:


this topic reminds me that you will never get two people to agree on a set of FF opinions
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mcflubbin
01/08/12 7:00:00 PM
#35:


Thanks a lot for the input, everybody. I think I'll start with VI and go from there. We'll see how it goes.

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OmarsComin
01/08/12 7:01:00 PM
#36:


6 is boring and you are getting a bad version of it
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Avvil
01/08/12 7:01:00 PM
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I would get VI, IX, and VIII, in that order.

If you're only going to get two of them,

From: mnkboy907 | #031
Go with VI first, then IX.


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saveus_Maria
01/08/12 7:04:00 PM
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IX

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LeonhartFour
01/08/12 7:08:00 PM
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From: pyresword | #033
Whatever you do don't get 8. The first 1-2 disks are pretty good, but overall its better if we just dont talk about that game >.>


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Liquid Wind
01/08/12 7:11:00 PM
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FFVIII disc 3 is the worst disc in the entire series and that includes X-2

the rest of FFVIII is good enough to make up for it though, but I wouldn't recommend it as your first game in the series
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OmarsComin
01/08/12 7:14:00 PM
#41:


8 is good until the world map does that thing it does at the end
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KJH
01/08/12 7:14:00 PM
#42:


I'd disagree on some of those assessments. FF6 having the best music in the series? Like... what? It doesn't stand out at all there.

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Strife2
01/08/12 7:15:00 PM
#43:


VI is a wise choice. Get to the opera house. That should hook you into the series forever.

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MartinFF7
01/08/12 7:17:00 PM
#44:


777777

it's so good on the PSP too

From: Liquid Wind | #040
FFVIII disc 3 is the worst disc in the entire series and that includes X-2


Dude... that's pretty harsh.

FF9 Disc 4 imo.

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Strife2
01/08/12 7:54:00 PM
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I don't know about that: Memoria kicked a lot of ass. It had a great atmosphere. If you're talking about the final boss, then I can understand.

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OmarsComin
01/08/12 7:55:00 PM
#46:


FF8 and 9 disc 4 are both bad because of how they botched endgame content
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Liquid Wind
01/08/12 7:56:00 PM
#47:


FFIX final boss redeems itself for having some pretty rad music, FFVIII disc 3 gives you eyes on me :(
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MartinFF7
01/08/12 8:03:00 PM
#48:


From: Strife2 | #045
I don't know about that: Memoria kicked a lot of ass. It had a great atmosphere. If you're talking about the final boss, then I can understand.


From: OmarsComin | #046
FF8 and 9 disc 4 are both bad because of how they botched endgame content


Omar covered it. Memoria had atmosphere, sure, but it was a massive lost opportunity and pretty tedious in general. It also introduced a lot of elements that had no tie-in to the game at that point. And of course, the game suffers from that thing which happens on both FF8 and FF9 Disc 4. And yeah, the final boss... yikes.

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 8:07:00 PM
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Tactics, 7, and 9 are probably the 3 best games in the series. 7's graphics have aged horribly though. 9 is probably the best bet for your first FF, as it's the personal favorite of a lot of people on the board and it's really good looking for a PS1 game.

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Strife2
01/08/12 8:31:00 PM
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It's too bad FFVIII >Disc 3 is so bad. The ending was FMV awesomeness (while still sucking somehow). Oh that's right...that thing.

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