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KingButz 01/03/12 3:06:00 PM #1: |
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57350990-503544/santorum-targets-blacks-in-entitlement-reform/?tag=re1.galleries
At a campaign stop in Sioux City, Iowa on Sunday, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum singled out blacks as being recipients of assistance through federal benefit programs, telling a mostly-white audience he doesn't want to "make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money." And this guy may win the Iowa Caucus. Ugh republicans -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Regaro_ 01/03/12 3:09:00 PM #2: |
I haven't followed it very closely in the past month or so, but since when was Santorum a legit contender to win anything?
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SlymDayspring 01/03/12 3:09:00 PM #3: |
Man, if only he had been making gamechanging comments like this a week or two ago, he would probably be polling in first.
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Leebo86 01/03/12 3:10:00 PM #4: |
From: _Regaro_ | #002 In the last week or so he surged in Iowa, but not anywhere else. -- Connecticut Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tee316 01/03/12 3:10:00 PM #5: |
From: _Regaro_ | #002 He has been gaining since Newt started to fall. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Regaro_ 01/03/12 3:11:00 PM #6: |
From: tee316 | #005 This doesn't surprise me, sadly. The entire thing has been "one guy passes up Romney in the polls, then crashes" rinse and repeat ad infinitum -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png Didn't just lose to a nice guy. I lost to SuperNiceDog in the guru. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 01/03/12 3:12:00 PM #7: |
he still is not a legit contender to WIN anything. He is just a solid third place.
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OmarsComin 01/03/12 3:13:00 PM #8: |
because Republicans don't want to vote for Romney but every time they focus in on someone else they realize that most of the people running for the nomination are awful people
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Revenus 01/03/12 3:15:00 PM #9: |
There's a reason why he's the former senator from PA. Horrible senator, will make a horrible nominee.
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Xuxon 01/03/12 3:15:00 PM #10: |
more than likely third even in Iowa, yeah, but he's polling close enough to first that he does have a shot at winning.
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KingButz 01/03/12 3:22:00 PM #11: |
Yeah he's an outside shot but if enough tea party republicans jump from Gingrich and Bachmann's sinking ships to his, he could take Iowa.
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Xeramako 01/03/12 3:32:00 PM #12: |
you know, the statement he made could actually be a totally reasonable thing to say if followed up with something appropriate or in a certain context.
i'm sure this particular quote has neither of these qualities, though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 01/03/12 3:36:00 PM #13: |
From: Xeramako | #012 The full quote: "I don't want to make black people's lives better, I want to make them worse!" -- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YetAnothrShadow 01/03/12 3:39:00 PM #14: |
Wow, This was made completely less interesting when I watched the video to get the full context.
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TheArkOfTurus 01/03/12 3:39:00 PM #15: |
"I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money."
Is the full quote. I'm sure they appreciate the opportunity. -- SuperNiceDog won the Guru contest. Good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingButz 01/03/12 3:40:00 PM #16: |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #013 In his defense, here is the full quote: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families." The controversy though is that when talking about welfare recipients he singled out blacks. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 01/03/12 3:42:00 PM #17: |
The full quote doesn't make him look any better.
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EmDubyaSee 01/03/12 3:44:00 PM #18: |
From: KingButz | #016 WTH is that controversial exactly? I mean, if I am LOWBALLING this, they are 75% of that system. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crazyisgood 01/03/12 3:44:00 PM #19: |
As he says right after that that he wants to give them the opportunity to earn their own money Sounds like a good idea to me.
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red sox 777 01/03/12 3:46:00 PM #20: |
I don't like the scapegoating of welfare recipients. Welfare recipients receive a tiny percentage of the country's funds. Our problems will not go away if you cut them off. There may very well be no economic gains at all.
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OmarsComin 01/03/12 3:46:00 PM #21: |
Right. Because it is white people's money. And the government is stealing it to give it to black people. That's how this works. He's describing reality.
It sounds okay for all of two seconds until you actually think about it and realize he's really saying "I want to cut taxes on the rich and pay for them by cutting social programs that help poor people." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 01/03/12 3:49:00 PM #22: |
From: OmarsComin | #021 If you have been on welfare for more than 2 years, and are not even ATTEMPTING to find a job, you should be cut off of welfare. Period. He is right on this. They cost this country a ton of money. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 01/03/12 3:49:00 PM #23: |
It sounds okay for all of two seconds until you actually think about it and realize he's really saying "I want to cut taxes on the rich and pay for them by cutting social programs that help poor people."
What if this sounds reasonable but the other statement you gave doesn't? But anyway, if you want to cut spending, you have to cut the things we actually spend lots of money on. Bailouts to large banks. Social Security. The Military. Medicare. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingButz 01/03/12 3:55:00 PM #24: |
From: EmDubyaSee | #018 From the same article: CBS News found that of the people on food stamps in Iowa, only nine percent are black and 84 percent are white. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 01/03/12 3:58:00 PM #25: |
Well, Iowa is like 95%+ white, isn't it?
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Iamdead7 01/03/12 4:00:00 PM #26: |
From: EmDubyaSee | #018 100% false -- Coincidence that a self-avowed Communist is so against democracy and traditional marriage? - SephG after misquoting me hilariously ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 01/03/12 4:01:00 PM #27: |
From: KingButz | #024 That would be because it's IOWA. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingButz 01/03/12 4:03:00 PM #28: |
Ah, Iowa is only 3% black. my bad.
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EmDubyaSee 01/03/12 4:03:00 PM #29: |
Iamdead7 posted...
From: EmDubyaSee | #018 WTH is that controversial exactly? I mean, if I am LOWBALLING this, they are 75% of that system. 100% false Oh, this is surprising, a liberal socialist defending this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LOLContests 01/03/12 4:06:00 PM #30: |
Even if Iowa is only 3% black, a threefold increase to nine percent would put the number of blacks on welfare nationwide nowhere near a majority, let alone 75%.
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Wanglicious 01/03/12 4:07:00 PM #31: |
i thought we all agreed that chris rock solved this argument like 10 years ago.
the nation's only like 10% black across some 9 regions or so. most of the nation's white. there's probably more people on welfare or food stamps than there are black people. that system is full of white trash and blacks are a minority there too. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 01/03/12 4:09:00 PM #32: |
LOLContests posted...
Even if Iowa is only 3% black, a threefold increase to nine percent would put the number of blacks on welfare nationwide nowhere near a majority, let alone 75%. If we are just going white vs black (I have no doubt that ilegal immigrants have a ton) they are pulling 3 out of 4 easy. I don't see what is wrong with demanding people actually work, the liberals do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 01/03/12 4:11:00 PM #33: |
Not necessarily. States like Iowa may have very low percentages of people on unemployment overall. If most of the people on welfare nationally come from a few states with a high black population (say, New York, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, California, Michigan), you could get to a much higher percentage by doing the tripling calculation in each state rather than just tripling nationally.
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red sox 777 01/03/12 4:13:00 PM #34: |
I seriously doubt 75% though. I doubt you could get to 75% even not including Hispanics and other races.
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Iamdead7 01/03/12 4:15:00 PM #35: |
From: EmDubyaSee | #029 Defending what? The gut guess that blacks make up a huge majority of welfare recipients is not only false, it's also horribly racist It also ignores the fact that blacks and poorer because the white majority kept them that way for over a century. -- Coincidence that a self-avowed Communist is so against democracy and traditional marriage? - SephG after misquoting me hilariously ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 01/03/12 4:19:00 PM #36: |
there are more poor white people than there are black people too. <_<;
i mean yes, proportionate to each other blacks do make up a high amount (if you make up 30% of the pie and are 10% of the population, well...) which is why that stereotype exists, but just by raw numbers can't really see whites not leading that one too. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 01/03/12 4:19:00 PM #37: |
From: SlymDayspring | #003 That's pretty offensive man, your implying that everyone who agrees with Republican ideology is a racist. I resent that. -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 01/03/12 4:19:00 PM #38: |
But anyway, if you want to cut spending, you have to cut the things we actually spend lots of money on. Bailouts to large banks. Social Security. The Military. Medicare. nah that sounds silly let's cut education and funding for the arts instead wait do we pay scientists to do anything? cut that too. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 01/03/12 4:20:00 PM #39: |
From: OmarsComin | #038 Oh, and cut pay to government officials. By a negative amount. That's a cut, right? -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrinceKaro 01/03/12 4:21:00 PM #40: |
I think that its already been well established that Santorum is a nutjob.
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th3l3fty 01/03/12 4:22:00 PM #41: |
old numbers, but
http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p60-222.pdf in 2002, 10.2% of whites were below poverty level compared to 24.1% of blacks, but it was about a 3:1 ratio of white:black I doubt the numbers have changed radically since -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 01/03/12 4:23:00 PM #42: |
The guy thinks that adultery should be a criminal offense, and that liberalism causes pedophilia.
ib he gets caught banging dudes. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 01/03/12 4:24:00 PM #43: |
...you doubt the numbers have changed of a 9 year old poll where we had a national collapse in the economy and multiple industires have gotten torn to sheads.
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th3l3fty 01/03/12 4:25:00 PM #44: |
ratio-wise!
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Wanglicious 01/03/12 4:28:00 PM #45: |
ratio wise it wouldn't make sense either! the industries killed would be the ones overwhelmingly white.
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EndOfDiscOne 01/03/12 4:30:00 PM #46: |
It doesn't even sound like he's saying "black." It just sounds like he's stuttering when he says "peoples' lives"
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Cloud and Squall 01/03/12 4:36:00 PM #47: |
I don't see much wrong with what he said. Maybe just singling out black people, but black people have been historically at a disadvantage in the past when it comes to job opportunities.
Welfare isn't a large part of the debt, I'm sure. But... uh wouldn't they get more money if they had the opportunities available to make more money? This isn't just about how much money is spent. But how much money they take in. I'd imagine their lives would be better with a job, than on Welfare. And then hey -- they'd have more money to spend. It's also part of why we should be raising the minimum wage right now. -- See You In Another Life, Brother. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 01/03/12 4:37:00 PM #48: |
Perfectly valid and legitimate statement which I 100% agree with.
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OmarsComin 01/03/12 4:37:00 PM #49: |
Welfare isn't a large part of the debt, I'm sure. But... uh wouldn't they get more money if they had the opportunities available to make more money? This isn't just about how much money is spent. But how much money they take in. I'd imagine their lives would be better with a job, than on Welfare. And then hey -- they'd have more money to spend.
The question is "how does he intend to do that?" It'd be great if more jobs existed and they paid better. I don't think anything Santorum would suggest would actually accomplish those things. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 01/03/12 4:38:00 PM #50: |
get back to work on your list smartmuffin plz
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