Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1039

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AlecTrevelyan006
12/18/11 9:31:00 PM
#151:


Wow, I have three seperate alts with seperate brackets on the leaderboard. My main, and also AcidEnema and Richard__Sharpe.

My bad to anybody kept off by that!

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Not_Wylvane
12/18/11 9:32:00 PM
#152:


So, are any perfects going to actually bite on Mario > Link?

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_Regaro_
12/18/11 9:32:00 PM
#153:


Am I going insane, or are the trainers gaining in vote differential but losing percentage?

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th3l3fty
12/18/11 9:32:00 PM
#154:


huh, seven people banked

so just one perfect went with the upset

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Xuxon
12/18/11 9:32:00 PM
#155:


From: Not_Wylvane | #147
Looks like this is where Link/Dorf started slowing down their games last match.

It's actually following Link/Dorf trends pretty closely.


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Shoenin_Kakashi
12/18/11 9:33:00 PM
#156:


Love the fact Hitmonlee is putting up dukes against Cloud

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sonicboom510
12/18/11 9:33:00 PM
#157:


-LusterSoldier- posted...
The bracket and the stats for this contest haven't updated yet. Also, it still says "(1) Link vs. Ganondorf over (1) Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth (In Progress)" on my battle bracket page.

Yeah, I couldn't pick my characters for this battle.

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Team Rocket Elite
12/18/11 9:34:00 PM
#158:


Am I going insane, or are the trainers gaining in vote differential but losing percentage?

That's what happens when their current vote intake is still above 50% of the votes but before the total percentage of votes they currently have.

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XIII_rocks
12/18/11 9:34:00 PM
#159:


I imagine the 7 that banked will be more likely to take a risk tomorrow.

Doubt those 7 would have banked without knowing about the "oracle-style" final battle pick.

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:34:00 PM
#160:


So, based on the first five minutes, HERE IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE TOMORROW FOR MARIO VS. LINK! Change your Oracles and Battle Challenges accordingly!

FINAL X-STATS!

Mario vs. Bowser – 50.00%
Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue – 44.36%
Link vs. Ganondorf – 43.39%
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth – 36.22%
Ryu vs. Ken Masters – 35.45%
Samus Aran vs. Ridley – 34.98%
Mega Man X vs. Zero – 33.34%
Big Boss vs. The Boss – 32.55%
Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion – 31.54%
Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Dr. Robotnik – 29.42%
Chris Redfield vs. Albert Wesker – 28.26%
Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake – 27.44%
Terra Branford vs. Kefka Palazzo – 27.43%
Tidus vs. Jecht – 26.28%
Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell – 24.83%
Crono vs. Lavos – 22.63%
Donkey Kong vs. K. Rool – 22.40%
Kirby vs. Meta Knight – 22.24%
Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily – 21.47%
Jim Raynor vs. Sarah Kerrigan – 20.48%
Luigi vs. Waluigi – 19.55%
Ike vs. Black Knight – 19.53%
Frog vs. Magus – 19.44%
Yuna vs. Seymour Guado – 19.40%
Jill Valentine vs. Nemesis – 18.47%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze vs. Rodrigo Borgia – 17.83%
Pac-Man vs. Blinky – 17.76%
Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez – 17.49%
Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy – 17.28%
Sora vs. Riku – 17.03%
Lloyd Irving vs. Kratos Aurion – 16.92%
Leon Kennedy vs. Ada Wong – 16.89%
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth – 16.84%
Kratos vs. Zeus – 16.82%
Dante vs. Vergil – 16.75%
Raiden vs. Vamp – 15.95%
Conker vs. The Great Mighty Poo – 15.85%
Katherine vs. Catherine – 15.82%
Bartz Klauser vs. Gilgamesh – 15.20%
Earthworm Jim vs. Queen Slug-for-a-Butt – 14.64%
Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen – 14.63%
Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja – 14.55%
Ness vs. Giygas – 14.43%
Commander Shepard vs. Saren Arterius – 14.29%
Amaterasu vs. Orochi – 14.15%
William B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf Hitler – 13.56%
The Kid vs. The Guy – 13.55%
Captain Falcon vs. Black Shadow – 13.04%
Ratchet vs. Dr. Nefarious – 13.02%
Crash Bandicoot vs. Dr. Neo Cortex – 12.96%
Arthas Menethil vs. Illidian – 12.76%
Dan Hibiki vs. Sagat – 11.75%
Vyse vs. Galcian – 11.70%
Siegfried Schtauffen vs. Nightmare – 11.49%
Guybrush Threepwood vs. LeChuck – 10.88%
Meat Boy vs. Dr. Fetus – 10.30%
Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral – 10.18%
Banjo vs. Gruntilda – 9.67%
Tom Nook vs. Crazy Redd – 9.31%
Laharl vs. Mid-Boss – 9.10%
Professor Layton vs. Don Paolo – 8.70%
Sol Badguy vs. Ky Kiske – 5.83%

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_Regaro_
12/18/11 9:35:00 PM
#161:


From: Team Rocket Elite | #158
Am I going insane, or are the trainers gaining in vote differential but losing percentage?

That's what happens when their current vote intake is still above 50% of the votes but before the total percentage of votes they currently have.


Ok

Because I saw people earlier in this very topic saying that the trainers were crashing

and I thought the lead was still increasing so I was like wut

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CaptainStemol
12/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#162:


_Regaro_ posted...
Am I going insane, or are the trainers gaining in vote differential but losing percentage?

You may be going insane, but the rest of your statement holds true. It's entirely possible for them to keep gaining vote differential while losing percentage the entire time. Math is fun that way. For instance, if the final vote total were 22,700 to 22,000, the percentage would be 50.78 to 49.22. Larger vote differential, much smaller percentage differential.

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th3l3fty
12/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#163:


gained almost nothing there

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Team Rocket Elite
12/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#164:


Because I saw people earlier in this very topic saying that the trainers were crashing

They are. The more your percentage intakes falls, the closer your opponent gets to making vote differential cuts.

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GrapefruitKing
12/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#165:


well if Cloud/Seph can stall the Trainers this early into the match, coming back from 500 or 600 votes isn't that hard

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#166:


Yeah, Cloud/Sephy may not be done yet.

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XIII_rocks
12/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#167:


trainers second in the stats? I'm OK with this!

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:37:00 PM
#168:


Mario vs. Bowser – 50.00%
Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue – 44.36%
Link vs. Ganondorf – 43.39%


Glorious

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Kotetsu534
12/18/11 9:37:00 PM
#169:


Hmm, Cloud/Seph might try to make a match of this.

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SabrielAbhorsen
12/18/11 9:38:00 PM
#170:


Actually looking at the trends for the updates we have had so far and geolocation trends this match is similar to Linkdorf/Cloudroth. Let's see if this holds.

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ZFS
12/18/11 9:39:00 PM
#171:


Ryu/Ken > Samus/Ridley
Big Boss > Solid Snake

these are good stats

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:40:00 PM
#172:


Quick someone compare this to Sephiroth/Missingno

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Xuxon
12/18/11 9:40:00 PM
#173:


From: SabrielAbhorsen | #170
Actually looking at the trends for the updates we have had so far and geolocation trends this match is similar to Linkdorf/Cloudroth. Let's see if this holds.


No, it really isn't. Trainers have dropped over 2% from their peak already. Link didn't do that until more than 3 hours into the match.
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XIII_rocks
12/18/11 9:41:00 PM
#174:


hmm. Another big gain.

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SabrielAbhorsen
12/18/11 9:42:00 PM
#175:


Xuxon posted...
From: SabrielAbhorsen | #170
Actually looking at the trends for the updates we have had so far and geolocation trends this match is similar to Linkdorf/Cloudroth. Let's see if this holds.
No, it really isn't. Trainers have dropped over 2% from their peak already. Link didn't do that until more than 3 hours into the match.


We'll see.

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:42:00 PM
#176:


From: charmander6000 | #172
Quick someone compare this to Sephiroth/Missingno


Red/Blue have a bigger lead 40 minutes into the poll than Missingno did. Sephy was at 52%

So this projects to an easy Trainers win still.

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:42:00 PM
#177:


Well, an easy Trainers lead after 12 hours anyway.

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:43:00 PM
#178:


While Cloud/Sephiroth should make some nice gains at night the trainers will have the day to increase and based on our old votes this is almost like a 1200 vote lead.

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Xuxon
12/18/11 9:43:00 PM
#179:


We'll see? All I said was what has happened so far. For all I know it was a randomly weird start and the Trainers will stall at 57.5% for the next hour and a half.
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_Regaro_
12/18/11 9:44:00 PM
#180:


So does somebody want to explain to me how Trainers getting 53% here projects Mario = Cloud?

No matter what the formula says, that's absurd.

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AlecTrevelyan006
12/18/11 9:45:00 PM
#181:


From: _Regaro_ | #180
So does somebody want to explain to me how Trainers getting 53% here projects Mario = Cloud?

No matter what the formula says, that's absurd.


What? If Trainers win here, transitive property puts Mario > Cloud.

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:45:00 PM
#182:


From: _Regaro_ | #180
So does somebody want to explain to me how Trainers getting 53% here projects Mario = Cloud?

No matter what the formula says, that's absurd.


It projects Mario = Link, not Cloud.

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:45:00 PM
#183:


So does somebody want to explain to me how Trainers getting 53% here projects Mario = Link?

Link got 58% on Cloud, Mario got 55% on Red therefore Red needs about 53% on Cloud for Mario to reach Link.

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_Regaro_
12/18/11 9:46:00 PM
#184:


From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #181
What? If Trainers win here, transitive property puts Mario > Cloud.


From: LeonhartFour | #182
It projects Mario = Link, not Cloud.


Yeah I'm a moron and meant to say that but typed without thinking <_<

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th3l3fty
12/18/11 9:46:00 PM
#185:


aaaaand we have a cut!

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:46:00 PM
#186:


There's the first cut

night won't be pretty

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:46:00 PM
#187:


A cut already?

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tennisboy213
12/18/11 9:46:00 PM
#188:


oh %&*$

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_Regaro_
12/18/11 9:46:00 PM
#189:


From: charmander6000 | #183
So does somebody want to explain to me how Trainers getting 53% here projects Mario = Link?

Link got 58% on Cloud, Mario got 55% on Red therefore Red needs about 53% on Cloud for Mario to reach Link.


Oh

It did end at 55%

Without checking I thought it ended at about 53% or so

Excellent job me <_<

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Emporer_Kazbar
12/18/11 9:47:00 PM
#190:


That was odd. Wasn't expecting a cut for a good while.

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GrapefruitKing
12/18/11 9:47:00 PM
#191:


whoa

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ExThaNemesis
12/18/11 9:47:00 PM
#192:


Holy christ what on earth is happening

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ZFS
12/18/11 9:47:00 PM
#193:


Mario/Bowser over Link/Ganon could be the best thing ever.

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:48:00 PM
#194:


Mario/Bowser over Link/Ganon could be the best thing ever.

It will be the best thing ever.

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IngmarBirdman
12/18/11 9:48:00 PM
#195:


LOL x-stat projections from the first five minutes of a match with Pokémon in it? Might as well just set them 50-50 and post that.

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XIII_rocks
12/18/11 9:48:00 PM
#196:


From: ZFS | #193
Mario/Bowser over Link/Ganon could be the best thing ever.


Yep. I really don't see any of the perfect battlers having the balls to pick it, it'd completely shake up the leaderboard...wouldn't save the contest but it'd be very awesome.

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ZFS
12/18/11 9:50:00 PM
#197:


It might save the contest for me! Mario/Bowser is like a top 5 rivalry in this contest, and seeing Mario top ZELDA legitimately would be 'too good.'

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LeonhartFour
12/18/11 9:50:00 PM
#198:


From: IngmarBirdman | #195
LOL x-stat projections from the first five minutes of a match with Pokémon in it? Might as well just set them 50-50 and post that.


Well, it was just for laughs.

50/50 still projects out very well for Mario/Bowser, too, although it doesn't project a win.

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Team Rocket Elite
12/18/11 9:51:00 PM
#199:


Score-Brackets-% Right
144----2------------50.00
143----5------------100.00
142----3------------100.00
141----2------------100.00
140----4------------100.00
139----11----------72.73
138----14----------92.86
137----6------------83.33
136----179--------98.88
135----33----------81.82
134----26----------92.31
133----34----------67.65
132----55----------83.64
131----100--------87.00
130----92----------84.78
129----102--------82.35
128----113--------78.76
127----119--------72.27
126----349--------89.97
125----167--------68.26
124----162--------75.93
123----191--------75.39
122----209--------73.68
121----218--------67.43
120----242--------69.83
119----298--------69.46
118----271--------69.00
117----290--------70.00
116----293--------64.51
115----326--------69.33
114----295--------64.41
113----317--------62.78
112----308--------64.29
111----362--------61.88
110----354--------65.25
109----332--------65.06
108----357--------64.99
107----327--------58.41
106----349--------63.04
105----328--------62.20
104----311--------61.09
103----336--------57.14
102----321--------55.76
101----293--------57.34
100----269--------59.85
99------226--------56.64
98------281--------51.60
97------231--------58.87
96------219--------56.62
95------222--------50.45
94------196--------48.98
93------198--------51.01
92------188--------48.40
91------197--------51.78
90------158--------49.37
89------172--------47.09
88------153--------49.67
87------144--------50.69
86------160--------45.63
85------159--------42.77
84------125--------40.80
83------141--------35.46
82------131--------41.98
81------137--------35.77
80------138--------38.41
79------136--------36.03
78------122--------36.89
77------132--------43.94
76------117--------34.19
75------128--------32.03
74------110--------31.82
73------106--------30.19
72------82----------28.05
71------83----------31.33
70------82----------35.37
69------87----------29.89
68------89----------22.47
67------90----------33.33
66------81----------27.16
65------86----------16.28
64------78----------25.64
63------72----------13.89
62------74----------17.57
61------78----------24.36
60------72----------26.39
59------67----------10.45
58------74----------14.86
57------48----------18.75
56------58----------8.62
55------61----------16.39
54------56----------14.29
53------57----------8.77
52------58----------12.07
51------53----------7.55
50------52----------11.54
49------48----------6.25
48------51----------17.65
47------43----------16.28
46------34----------2.94
45------39----------7.69
44------35----------5.71
43------35----------5.71
42------49----------6.12
41------39----------2.56

38------36----------5.56
37------24----------4.17
36------16----------6.25

15------2------------50.00

Cloud is nearly able to get Link's prediction percentage below 50 but isn't quite able to do it. The top of the standings were heavily in favour of Link winning. 87% of the top 47 get the match right. It isn't until the -16 (128 points) that the prediction precentage regularly falls below 80.

7 people fell off the Top 50 and 6 of them had Cloud/Sephiroth winning the contest. Former first place KingLionel, pjbasis, Jobi1, Hitagi, MachoManSavage, Zicore and Lonewolf00B did not have Link vs Ganondorf winning the match.

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charmander6000
12/18/11 9:51:00 PM
#200:


I'm on the road to Viridian City

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