Board 8 > so in DBZ, did training in the hundreds times gravity really benefit them?

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BIGPUN9999
12/16/11 9:30:00 PM
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or was it all the repeated zenkais they kept getting from the injuries they sustained DURING the gravity training?

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Viktor Vaughn
12/16/11 9:31:00 PM
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both, probably

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14_and_counting
12/16/11 9:31:00 PM
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It's the training itself.

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MarvelousGerbil
12/16/11 9:33:00 PM
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Why can't it be both?

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Sorozone
12/16/11 9:34:00 PM
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Vegeta explicitly says zenkai doesn't work on self inflicted wounds.(This is why he had Krillin blast him).

It's the training.

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mnkboy907
12/16/11 9:37:00 PM
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From: Sorozone | #005
Vegeta explicitly says zenkai doesn't work on self inflicted wounds.(This is why he had Krillin blast him).

It's the training.


Is it really self-inflicted if it's the gravity that causes the injuries?

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Sorozone
12/16/11 9:40:00 PM
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From: mnkboy907 | #006
Is it really self-inflicted if it's the gravity that causes the injuries?


The gravity showed no cause of injury. So....

I mean they just couldn't move at first, the reason Goku got cuts and his clothes got torn was because he was shooting Ki blasts at himself.

Vegeta probably did the same, but iirc, I don't think it actually showed any of his training when he randomly took off to space.

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TimJab
12/16/11 9:40:00 PM
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more importantly, why didn't they just blast each other every day and then immediately eat a senzu bean

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TimJab
12/16/11 9:41:00 PM
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vegeta was always just shown during one-armed pushups and stuff

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params7
12/16/11 9:42:00 PM
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From: TimJab | #008
more importantly, why didn't they just blast each other every day and then immediately eat a senzu bean


Because training harder hurts much less.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
12/16/11 9:43:00 PM
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During the trip to Namek Goku used Senzu Beans to use the Zenkais to power him up, so it can be self inflicted through training in high gravity. Goku became more than 10x stronger and able to use Kaioken X10 without strain.

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TimJab
12/16/11 9:43:00 PM
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yeah but it only hurts for a second and zenkais are ridiculous

vegeta goes from like 60,000 to like 5 million when krillin blasts him

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Sorozone
12/16/11 9:47:00 PM
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From: SSJSephirothGokuX123 | #011
During the trip to Namek Goku used Senzu Beans to use the Zenkais to power him up, so it can be self inflicted through training in high gravity. Goku became more than 10x stronger and able to use Kaioken X10 without strain.

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Uhhh. No.

He used Senzu beans to recover after a session of training so he could continue another session. Nothing to do with Zenkai.

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BIGPUN9999
12/16/11 9:50:00 PM
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his injuries are so severe to the point where he can barely walk

I'm pretty sure hes getting zenkais from that

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
12/16/11 9:53:00 PM
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He also got way stronger in one week than in one year when was with King Kai, you probably don't get zankais while dead.

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14_and_counting
12/16/11 9:55:00 PM
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From: TimJab | #012
yeah but it only hurts for a second and zenkais are ridiculous

vegeta goes from like 60,000 to like 5 million when krillin blasts him




He probably went from 450,000 to about 2 millions, so no, you are wrong. But that;s not the point anyway, because Goku in fact did go from 90,000 to 3,000,000 with one single Zenkai.

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14_and_counting
12/16/11 9:55:00 PM
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From: BIGPUN9999 | #014
his injuries are so severe to the point where he can barely walk

I'm pretty sure hes getting zenkais from that




In filler yes, not in canon.

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TimJab
12/16/11 10:22:00 PM
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From: 14_and_counting | #016
He probably went from 450,000 to about 2 millions, so no, you are wrong. But that;s not the point anyway, because Goku in fact did go from 90,000 to 3,000,000 with one single Zenkai.


well whatever, he was 60,000 at point on namek

he's only like 24,000 when he lands and by the time he leaves a week later he's in the millions

that's a lot more growth than if he had trained non-stop for that entire time

ginyu was the second strongest guy in the galaxy and he was only like 180,000 or something

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BIGPUN9999
12/17/11 10:01:00 AM
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oh my

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Liquid Wind
12/17/11 10:07:00 AM
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critically injuring each other and then eating senzu beans would have been the most efficient way to get stronger as shown by saiyans repeatedly multiplying their power levels by this method, but goku is too stupid to have thought of this and vegeta for some reason never again considers this option after getting krillin to blast him
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