Board 8 > We have less than 16 hours to fight SOPA.

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From: CoolCly | #050
What do you mean?


Are you upset she said piracy is wrong?

No, she's just using copyright to justify this. I see now that she's trying to balance protection and freedom. I still don't see how it relates to the amendment at all though.

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american copyright laws are so jank to begin with, and then this comes along....

I dont like it when people illegally download something brand new, or a few years old. But after 5 or so years....ya a company has more often than not made close to 99% of the profit it will make on a product.

If valve needs portal to still sell a bunch of copies to stay a float, then id say valve doesn't deserve to be in business.

If nintendo still needs twilight princess to sell a bunch of copies to avoid bankruptcy, then nintendo doesn't deserve to be in business.

Same goes with music. I don't listen to any modern music, but a band who released a CD in 2006 doesn't deserve to still be in the industry if they need that CD to sell.

I have no idea how you could regulate brand new works over the internet and make the rest enter public domain, so i feel something like SOPA would only be destructive to the internet.

I feel like weve reached a point in americana where these big companies are given safety nets after theyve reached a certain amount of wealth. Its pretty pathetic that people still respect so many companies that don't even innovate their business anymore, they just demand the government to force legislation to allow them to be lazy. There is a reason why movies in general have been recycled garbage for about a decade now.

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I don't think these people understand how nonprofit organizations work

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is that the piracy = theft argument I hear

yes, yes it is

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All I have gotten from this act so far is I should be downloading as much stuff as I possibly can before it gets passed

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How's it looking so far? Are the majority for it or against it?

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There are a bunch of people opposed to the bill for one of or both of two reasons:

1. The bill's technical aspects may not accomplish the bills goals and there has not been enough input from experts on the subject.

2. This can impact small business or universities or other unexpected entities in a way not intended?




But some representatives are just like "it's stealin' give me a break" or are just like "uhh no it doesn't target anybody unintended at all"

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The problem with SOPA is that it's the equivalent of stopping rape by cutting off everyone's dicks. It addresses a few problems but creates a bunch of more terrible ones.

I feel bad for making this comparison and you should feel bad if you think it was a good one.

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That was an awful comparison

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Looks like SOPA bill failed to pass on account of definition of what an infringing site would have to contain to be a violation, as i understand it...

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If you value your internet at all you'll contact your Representatives and Senators and tell them if they support these bills that you won't be supporting them ever again.

then next in line comes in and continues to rape liberty with a barbed wire *****, nothing changes and they know it.

remember when people were fed up with wars no one wanted, propaganda, citizens being spied on without warrant, people being deported to foreign prisons without trial, and knee jerk reacted into electing obama and a democratic congress? notice how all of those things have only been escalated? the US government is openly rigged, get out now while you can.

he said piratebay NO NOT THE BAY


lol lawsuits against a printer

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I can pretty much guarantee nothing would have been different under McCain

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From: DeathChicken | #070
I can pretty much guarantee nothing would have been different under McCain

Internet probably would have been banned a couple years ago. McCain has trouble understanding how youtubes and tweeter work.

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I can pretty much guarantee nothing would have been different under McCain

that was exactly my point, now people are saying "anyone but obama", you really think gringrich or romney are changing anything? you don't have a real choice, the democratic and republican parties are both working towards the same objectives of stripping the american people of their rights and freedoms. telling your representative you won't vote for them doesn't mean a damn thing to them.

man

these people have no idea what they're talking about at all

and that same guy keeps saying "LOLNO THIS IS A LOOPHOLE"

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Oh it was just an amendment

Or something

Maybe

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th3l3fty posted...
man

these people have no idea what they're talking about at all

and that same guy keeps saying "LOLNO THIS IS A LOOPHOLE"


Who do you mean?

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I think the government needs to listen to the "nerds of the internet" more often.

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lol at these people constantly throwing around the word nerd. Shows how educated people really are.

"I dont understand the internet very well, im not a nerd". Really professional sounding.

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This Watt guy.

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bronzefrog posted...
Rotten to the core.




Yeah this SOPA thing is a menace, we got it on the ropes?

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i mean this is all just an act to make people feel like they are talking about it.

Theyve been bought and paid for already, its done.

You want to let your voice be heard? Stop watching movies. Stop going to movies. A big reason why this is happening is because of the movie industry.

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Has anyone pointed out the hypocrisy inherent in the bill yet?

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Metal_DK posted...
You want to let your voice be heard? Stop watching movies. Stop going to movies. A big reason why this is happening is because of the movie industry.

I don't think Hollywood studios making less money would make anybody more lenient on anything. Sure studios have sued people etc, same with the music industry, not really the key issues at hand here though.

And of course how about the game industry, any profit industry does what they can against piracy. Boycotting any of them doesn't do anything to help internet rights, net neutrality, etc.

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I don't think Hollywood studios making less money would make anybody more lenient on anything. Sure studios have sued people etc, same with the music industry, not really the key issues at hand here though.

And of course how about the game industry, any profit industry does what they can against piracy. Boycotting any of them doesn't do anything to help internet rights, net neutrality, etc.

fair enough, but a major backing force on the bill is the movie industry. But yes, you are right about the issue with basic internet rights.

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UltimaterializerX posted...
From: CorporalSphynx | #090
Has anyone pointed out the hypocrisy
"It's government", there is hypocrisy and corruption at all levels.

true, I was just wondering if anyone voiced it.

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I don't know anything about this bill, but I think you guys are probably overreacting. How exactly is it going to "ruin the internet?"

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Looks like they are pushing to have experts testify

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From: special_sauce | #096
I don't know anything about this bill, but I think you guys are probably overreacting.

You don't know anything about the bill, so you cannot say anyone here is overreacting

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You don't need experts for this stuff. Experts are required when common sense is not enough. What this needs is common sense.

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