Board 8 > So Xenoblade is literally ToS all over again

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redrocket
12/12/11 11:17:00 AM
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oh

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The_Djoker
12/12/11 11:18:00 AM
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In terms of what? Xenoblade is a far better game. ToS wasn't even the best Tales game.

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EndOfDiscOne
12/12/11 11:20:00 AM
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I don't think it's very that at all. It's set up much differently.

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_stingers_
12/12/11 11:29:00 AM
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yeah...no

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GranzonEx
12/12/11 11:30:00 AM
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ToS syndrome.

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tereziWright
12/12/11 11:31:00 AM
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Personally, I can only hope it's as good as ToS.

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RPGLord95
12/12/11 11:31:00 AM
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In that it is also a game?

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tereziWright
12/12/11 11:32:00 AM
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Did that GS exclusivity thing end up being true? Still nowhere to be seen on Amazon.

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KingButz
12/12/11 11:34:00 AM
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From: tereziWright | #008
Did that GS exclusivity thing end up being true? Still nowhere to be seen on Amazon.


Yeah, afaik its true.

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SHINE GET 64
12/12/11 11:35:00 AM
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Gamestop and Nintendo's online store

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redrocket
12/12/11 2:11:00 PM
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KingButz posted...
From: tereziWright | #008
Did that GS exclusivity thing end up being true? Still nowhere to be seen on Amazon.
Yeah, afaik its true.


This is dumb.

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MoogleKupo141
12/12/11 2:16:00 PM
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tereziWright posted...
Did that GS exclusivity thing end up being true? Still nowhere to be seen on Amazon.

Amazon sent me an email telling me they would not be able to fulfill my Monado preorder. So yeah

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The_Djoker
12/12/11 2:36:00 PM
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I don't see the big deal about having a store exlcusive. They aren't exactly going to ship millions of copies. Would be great if 1 store had a ton of preorders so they could do a Midnight Launch. I'd fly all the way to America for a Xenoblade Midnight launch even though i've beaten the game.

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foolm0ron
12/12/11 2:46:00 PM
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From: The_Djoker | #013
I don't see the big deal about having a store exlcusive


Because it's gamestop

If it were Amazon, no problem

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Weakupedia
12/12/11 2:49:00 PM
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after ToS and NMH i can't trust this board for anything

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EndOfDiscOne
12/12/11 2:51:00 PM
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Weakupedia posted...
after ToS and NMH i can't trust this board for anything

Go to any other board, I literally haven't seen a single person say Xenoblade is bad. I've seen maybe two people call it an average JRPG, everyone else likes or loves it.

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The_Djoker
12/12/11 2:56:00 PM
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Not everyone but yeah, it's a far FAR better game than ToS and NMH. NMH was very overrated lets be honest.

From: foolm0ron | #014
Because it's gamestop

If it were Amazon, no problem


Do Amazon have a store? This is physical Retailer we're talking about. They are dedicated game store.
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MasterOfHunters
12/12/11 3:01:00 PM
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The_Djoker posted...
In terms of what? Xenoblade is a far better game. ToS wasn't even the best Tales game.

Fun gameplay but the horrible plot/characters ruined TOS for me. It was as if namdai decided gamecube owners didn't deserve a rpg game not targeted at below 15 yrs old crowd.
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KingButz
12/12/11 3:01:00 PM
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From: The_Djoker | #017
Not everyone but yeah, it's a far FAR better game than ToS and NMH. NMH was very overrated lets be honest.

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Do Amazon have a store? This is physical Retailer we're talking about. They are dedicated game store.


They are also a terrible terrible company.

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FFDragon
12/12/11 3:02:00 PM
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ToS was FFX all over again so...

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The_Djoker
12/12/11 3:04:00 PM
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ToS sold ridiculous amounts though ,still the best selling Tales game outside Japan by an absolute mile, i agree though. Vesperia was much better.

Also Xenoblade has a far better story/characters than TOS. The onyl bad thing i would say about Xenoblade is some of the textures and graphics look terrible on the characters, can take away from the cinematics at times. If only it was made in HD...oh well.

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The_Djoker
12/12/11 3:05:00 PM
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From: KingButz | #019
They are also a terrible terrible company.


Because they are charging $80 for the game? I mean i don't about you but i like going into a store and buying games like this. If you hate the Company buy it from Nintendo site or Ebay.

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WazzupGenius00
12/12/11 3:05:00 PM
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From: KingButz | #019
They are also a terrible terrible company.


where the hell else are they gonna sell an exclusive, Best Buy or Toys R Us and get probably half of the sales they would have at GS?

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KingButz
12/12/11 3:06:00 PM
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I will be buying the game from Nintendo directly, because I'll be damned if I buy a game from Gamestop

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Sakurafanboy
12/12/11 3:12:00 PM
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I don't get all the GameStop hate. >_> Albeit the ones here are pretty nice. No snotty, push employees and its just a friendly enviroment. I like it there. :3 I'll be glad to purchase Xenoblade from them.

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MasterOfHunters
12/12/11 3:34:00 PM
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The_Djoker posted...
ToS sold ridiculous amounts though ,still the best selling Tales game outside Japan by an absolute mile, i agree though. Vesperia was much better.

Also Xenoblade has a far better story/characters than TOS. The onyl bad thing i would say about Xenoblade is some of the textures and graphics look terrible on the characters, can take away from the cinematics at times. If only it was made in HD...oh well.


Some games just sold well because of no real gamecube competition in the same genre. That and fairly lacking gamecube library to begin with. I can't even remember another proper rpg for the system... Lol
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Lightning Strikes
12/12/11 3:42:00 PM
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Fun fact: In Europe, the Gamecube had more RPGs than the PS2 until, like, 2007.

Anyway, Xenoblade is nothing like ToS. As much as I love ToS, Xenoblade is better. Actually, it's the best RPG of the generation and that's nothing to do with the fact that it's on the Wii. And while ToS was closer to a "traditional" JRPG, Xenoblade mixes elements of JRPGs, WRPGs, and MMOs. It's kind of like a love letter to the entire genre.

But yeah, the only real ToS similarity is the fact that it's an RPG on a Nintendo console. In actuality, it's closer to Skyrim than ToS (though not quite like that either).

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swordz9
12/12/11 3:46:00 PM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
Xenoblade mixes elements of JRPGs, WRPGs, and MMOs. It's kind of like a love letter to the entire genre.

This doesn't sound so good to me, but i already don't think I'd like the game from what I have seen of it.

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Lightning Strikes
12/12/11 3:52:00 PM
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From: swordz9 | #108
This doesn't sound so good to me, but i already don't think I'd like the game from what I have seen of it.


You probably will. It's one of those rare "something for everyone" games. If you like RPGs at all, you'll find SOMETHING to love in Xenoblade.

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BIGPUN9999
12/12/11 4:01:00 PM
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Gamestop might have some dumbass policies when it comes to certain things, but god damn, as far as selling you a game, it won't ****ing kill you to walk your stupid ass to a store and buy a game. So stop b****ing already. >_>

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swordz9
12/12/11 4:02:00 PM
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It's possible there could be something I like in it, but from what I have seen I know I'm not fond of the voice acting or battle system. I don't really care about quests or exploration in RPGs either. I might check it out when it price drops a bit, but I don't feel convinced I'd be satisfied buying it at release price.

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BIGPUN9999
12/12/11 4:03:00 PM
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and on topic, I don't recall a single person saying anything bad about ToS when it first came out, so uh, I really don't think thats a valid excuse to dismiss this comparison

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foolm0ron
12/12/11 6:37:00 PM
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From: The_Djoker | #017
Do Amazon have a store?


Yeah right here:
www.amazon.com
They ship games right to your door

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Lord Ephraim
12/12/11 6:51:00 PM
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The only comparisons I can think of ToS to Xenoblade is an overhyped RPG on a RPG starved Nintendo console fanbase. With one hand I can count the good RPGs on the Wii/Gamecube including ports.

Maybe I'm it that boat that thought Xenoblade was "okay". I hate MMO style combat and all the characters were one dimensional. My Wii's video card is messed up so the graphics looked like ass.

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GranzonEx
12/12/11 6:59:00 PM
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From: Lord Ephraim | #034
The only comparisons I can think of ToS to Xenoblade is an overhyped RPG on a RPG starved Nintendo console fanbase.


That's probably what the TC meant. Hence ToS syndrome.

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tazzyboyishere
12/12/11 7:02:00 PM
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I was excited for a moment, then everyone disagreed.

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redrocket
12/12/11 7:58:00 PM
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bump

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Takfloyd_mkII__
12/12/11 9:49:00 PM
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Xenoblade is undeniably ToS syndrome. It's still the RPG of the generation though.

It's possible there could be something I like in it, but from what I have seen I know I'm not fond of the voice acting or battle system.

Set the voices to Japanese. Problem solved. And the battle system is impossible to hate, regardless of whether you prefer turn-based or real-time battles.

I don't really care about quests or exploration in RPGs either.

Dumb complaint, since that's optional and unlike most WRPGs, Xenoblade has a great and lengthy main plot as well as all the sandbox stuff.

I can't imagine anyone wouldn't want to explore a world as beautifully designed as Xenoblade's, though.

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NeoElfboy
12/12/11 10:06:00 PM
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And the battle system is impossible to hate, regardless of whether you prefer turn-based or real-time battles.

It sounds pretty hard to love, though... I haven't heard much good about it, which says something considering how much B8 adores this game. Generally I feel like the highest praise is being heaped on the game by the types of people who don't care about RPG battle systems... not a good sign!

I'll probably play the game when it finally comes out here, but I'm not terribly optimistic as it sounds like a mix of things (FF12, exploration) that I don't really care for, plus I really hated the most recent Xeno game (although mercifully it sounds like the two don't have much in common). High opinions here make it worth checking out, but lower opinions at some other places I'm hanging out at temper the enthusiasm.

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The Real Truth
12/12/11 10:10:00 PM
#40:


FFDragon posted...
ToS was FFX all over again so...

Except FFX is actually good.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
12/13/11 8:53:00 AM
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but lower opinions at some other places I'm hanging out at temper the enthusiasm.

If you take anything posted on /v/ as decent opinion you are stupid. That's the only place to not have unanimous love for Xenoblade, since they hate everything from Japan.

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Lightning Strikes
12/13/11 8:55:00 AM
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I have seen nothing but love for Xenoblade on /v/, though I don't take /v/ opinions very seriously. There's a massive cadre of users who hate EVERYTHING there.

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NeoElfboy
12/13/11 11:05:00 AM
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That's the only place to not have unanimous love for Xenoblade

Um... no?

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Liquid Wind
12/13/11 11:11:00 AM
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xenoblade is going to be the best game released for the wii three years in a row

I'm not sure if that speaks to how good monolith is or how terrible nintendo was on the localization but it's an interesting achievement in any case
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The_Djoker
12/13/11 11:14:00 AM
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Fun fact: In Europe, the Gamecube had more RPGs than the PS2 until, like, 2007.

if we are including action RPG's then no.

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The_Djoker
12/13/11 11:15:00 AM
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The_Djoker
12/13/11 11:16:00 AM
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From: The Real Truth | #040
Except FFX is actually good.


lol sure it is.

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swordz9
12/13/11 11:17:00 AM
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Liquid Wind posted...
xenoblade is going to be the best game released for the wii three years in a row

This doesn't say a whole lot for NA since Xenoblade is one of the only Wii games even coming out in 2012. It's not really going to have any kind of competition since the only other game known is Mario Party 9.

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 11:20:00 AM
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most people think FFX is good

and apparently based on GameFAQs averages, most people think Tales of Symphonia is good too!
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Kotetsu534
12/13/11 11:21:00 AM
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FFX, ToS, Xenoblade - all good.

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