Board 8 > Occupy Eugene says they help the homeless. Homeless prefer churches. [dwmf]

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SmartMuffin
12/09/11 7:12:00 PM
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Occupy Eugene continues to justify its existence and special “exempt from the rules that normally apply to regular homeless people” treatment by claiming that they’re somehow engaging in community service. That they’re offering the homeless a safe and comfortable environment.

Unfortunately for them, the local paper decided to engage in some journalism and ask some actual homeless people. Surprise surprise, they’d prefer to go to a “warming center” that just so happens to be located at a church.

http://www.registerguard.com/web/newslocalnews/27297376-41/eugene-centers-egan-occupy-thursday.html.csp

http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/

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KamikazePotato
12/09/11 7:16:00 PM
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I just clicked on this and read the topic title/first post without checking who posted it.

Went "This is a SmartMuffin topic."

Checked.

Yup.

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OmarsComin
12/09/11 7:23:00 PM
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the "dwmf" tag would probably give it away
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tereziWright
12/09/11 7:25:00 PM
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SMuffin topics are obvious even without a tag. He's a one-trick pony.

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SmartMuffin
12/09/11 7:45:00 PM
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From: tereziWright | #004
SMuffin topics are obvious even without a tag. He's a one-trick pony.


Yep. And my trick is the truth.

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SlymDayspring
12/09/11 7:58:00 PM
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uh....so they should use the church then. not sure what your point is.

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Icehawk
12/09/11 8:02:00 PM
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his point is pretty obvious, that this occupy movement claimed it was doing some sort of community service, but it really isn't.

I don't think it's a huge deal, but this is one smartmuffin topic that isn't completely ridiculous or anything, no need to act oblivious, unless you just really are that dumb.

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MoogleKupo141
12/09/11 8:05:00 PM
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I am picturing a bunch of people protesting inside of a dude.

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SlymDayspring
12/09/11 8:09:00 PM
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his point is pretty obvious, that this occupy movement claimed it was doing some sort of community service, but it really isn't.

he didn't say nobody was using their service...he said a couple randomly selected individuals preferred another service.

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paperwarior
12/09/11 8:11:00 PM
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Bums heroically refuse so-called help of godless Communists; opt to pick themselves up by bootstraps and go to church instead

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MoogleKupo141
12/09/11 8:13:00 PM
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btw

How many visitors does your site actually get, Muffin ? Like... Any?

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Team Rocket Elite
12/09/11 8:14:00 PM
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Does the church have enough resources to accept everyone? If not, Occupy Eugene is providing a lower quality version to those who the church don't have the resources to help.

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tereziWright
12/09/11 8:14:00 PM
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From: MoogleKupo141 | #011
btw

How many visitors does your site actually get, Muffin ? Like... Any?


0 followers last someone checked, less than a dozen hits. I'm not willing to add another hit to his site to check.

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SmartMuffin
12/09/11 8:15:00 PM
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From: MoogleKupo141 | #011
btw

How many visitors does your site actually get, Muffin ? Like... Any?


I've got over a thousand hits all time. Not bad when this is basically the only place I promote it, and 90% of this site is openly hostile towards me!

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MoogleKupo141
12/09/11 8:19:00 PM
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It's kind of bad... what's the point of having a website if the only people looking at it are people who already see your board posts?

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Heroic Mass Carrier
12/09/11 8:20:00 PM
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^He's hoping for outsiders to come.

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SmartMuffin
12/09/11 8:33:00 PM
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From: MoogleKupo141 | #015
It's kind of bad... what's the point of having a website if the only people looking at it are people who already see your board posts?


As I said originally, the main point was actually to provide an archive of my arguments, relevant links, etc. The current system of making topics with great arguments that purge after a few days wasn't working, because inevitably some newbie shows up and is like "LOL SMARTMUFFIN HERES SOME LAME COMMUNIST ARGUMENT THAT TOTALLY PROVES YOU WRONG AND THAT IM SURE YOU NEVER THOUGHT OF AND YOU WONT EVEN RESPOND TO IT" when the truth is that I've already responded to it multiple times.

Now I can just point them to a link, rather than having to duplicate my efforts!

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MoogleKupo141
12/09/11 8:35:00 PM
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Fair enough.

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vcharon
12/09/11 8:36:00 PM
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I came here to check this out and maybe argue, but I decided it wasn't worth it and didn't visit any link.

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paperwarior
12/09/11 8:40:00 PM
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From: MoogleKupo141 | #008
I am picturing a bunch of people protesting inside of a dude.


The wrestler ertyu met, perhaps?

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SmartMuffin
12/09/11 8:55:00 PM
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From: Icehawk | #007
his point is pretty obvious, that this occupy movement claimed it was doing some sort of community service, but it really isn't.

I don't think it's a huge deal, but this is one smartmuffin topic that isn't completely ridiculous or anything, no need to act oblivious, unless you just really are that dumb.


This. Except it isn't quite as simple as "they're making a false claim." The false claim is pretty much their entire justification for existing. This same newspaper has run article after article about how they're supposedly helping the homeless, and the occupy scum have showed up to a bunch of city council meetings citing their help of the homeless as why they deserve to continue to be exempted from the rules of the city.

Until now, nobody really asked the homeless. If the homeless are of the opinion that the occupy camp isn't doing them any good, all of a sudden, their entire justification for being allowed to stay is now gone.

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SmartMuffin
12/09/11 9:03:00 PM
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From: Team Rocket Elite | #012
Does the church have enough resources to accept everyone? If not, Occupy Eugene is providing a lower quality version to those who the church don't have the resources to help.


This is a somewhat legitimate point, although keep in mind that the Occupy people are occupying a park where homeless people used to stay in small groups (of course they weren't allowed to set up tents and actually camp) prior to occupy being there. The article leads me to believe that some of the homeless would rather be out completely on their own than at the occupy camp. If true, this basically means that not only is the occupy camp inferior to the church, but that they actually took space away from the homeless.

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